Anonymous
11/21/2021 15:23
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We live in a dystopian hellscape and nothing proves it more than this.
Somewhat.
Middle class life in Netherlands is objectively very good but it isn’t like they have a lot of kids their either
Across all societies, the trend is that as countries get wealthier and women get more freedom and education, fertility rates fall. Basically, when given a choice, women will typically choose to have fewer kids.
Anonymous
11/21/2021 15:21
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:Who is going to buy all this real estate that is the main investment for most families? Declining population is not helpful to a healthy real estate market.
So the houses won't be worth much but the land. It's become a new investing trend to buy land especially farmable land. Venture capitalists are realizing they're not making any more land and the prices of farmland is sky rocketing. https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/ag/news/business-inputs/article/2021/11/16/farmland-values-eclipse-records-turn
Anonymous
11/21/2021 15:17
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good. There are plenty of kids to take care of, no reason to add to the pile.
Only unfortunately, our economy is structured to have the kids take care of us.
We’ll figure out a way to make it work. Fewer kids means less spending on schools, child tax credits, food stamps etc. Invest those savings into elder care.
Anonymous
11/21/2021 14:46
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:I wanted children. But a larger and larger number of us can't afford either IVF or adoption and to make a good like for the child once they are here.
So when I couldn't get pregnant naturally, I have up entirely. Had I lived in an area where it was easier to adopt from foster care, I might have done that.
I can certainly see where, in a time if limiting reproductive rights, more younger people would chose to get sterilized or have a vasectomy at an earlier and earlier age. That way, no unhappy surprises they can't afford to pay for.
Ivf could be next on the chopping block with abortion. They are flip sides of the same coin.
Anonymous
11/21/2021 14:42
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:If you think about, purely from a financial perspective, I am doing way, way worse than my friends who did not have kids (chosen not to or just couldn't because of biology, relationships, circumstances, etc).
It is an interesting thing to see right now since I'm in the thick of it, but US society doesn't encourage having children. If anything, there are economic disincentives built into the economy. No paid leave after having a child, an expensive childcare framework that is regulated to high hell by the government (for safety reasons, is unquestionably a good thing) with no financial support of the government (which people endless dispute as to whether it is shitty or not). Tax benefits are minimal. College savings programs aren't deductible federally and student loan interest is subject to income limits that drive people out of being able to take the deductions. Factor in the caps on SALT deductions (local property taxes pay for schools and surprise, the federal government DOESN'T want to encourage this I guess) and well...here we are.
+1. Couldn't agree more.
Anonymous
11/21/2021 14:39
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We still have plenty of immigrants who are having kids.
Actually, this isn't true. Immigration over the past four years has dwindled dramatically. If anything, the labor "crisis" employers are facing is due to not having immigrants flowing into the work force combined with a large swatch of working class people who died of COVID.
I have NO IDEA why people don't realize this or admit it. But it's evidence. Numbers don't lie.
LOL you mean legal immigration? Maybe, but the numbers are moving back up. Plus all the asylum seekers who are in the gray territory. No shortage of immigrants having kids. Plus generational welfare kids. Plus many US born kids of immigrants having their own kids early and 2+.
It would be interesting to see the results of the poll according to race and class too
Anonymous
11/21/2021 14:39
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
I don't have kids and don't plan to. I'm 45 and even as a young teen recall telling my family "I don't know if I'd be a good mother, but I'll be an excellent aunt." And I am.
I'm single and can barely support myself. I would NOT be a good single mother and wouldn't be able to afford to raise a child the way I'd want to. So, no kids for me. I visit with yours, corrupt them, and then hand them back before skipping off into the sunset!
I'm single and can barely support myself. I would NOT be a good single mother and wouldn't be able to afford to raise a child the way I'd want to. So, no kids for me. I visit with yours, corrupt them, and then hand them back before skipping off into the sunset!
Anonymous
11/21/2021 14:38
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
I wanted children. But a larger and larger number of us can't afford either IVF or adoption and to make a good like for the child once they are here.
So when I couldn't get pregnant naturally, I have up entirely. Had I lived in an area where it was easier to adopt from foster care, I might have done that.
I can certainly see where, in a time if limiting reproductive rights, more younger people would chose to get sterilized or have a vasectomy at an earlier and earlier age. That way, no unhappy surprises they can't afford to pay for.
So when I couldn't get pregnant naturally, I have up entirely. Had I lived in an area where it was easier to adopt from foster care, I might have done that.
I can certainly see where, in a time if limiting reproductive rights, more younger people would chose to get sterilized or have a vasectomy at an earlier and earlier age. That way, no unhappy surprises they can't afford to pay for.
Anonymous
11/21/2021 14:35
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:We still have plenty of immigrants who are having kids.
Exactly.
Not to worry
Anonymous
11/21/2021 14:31
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We live in a dystopian hellscape and nothing proves it more than this.
+1. There will be major regrets over this when it’s really too late.
+2 this is creepy “Children of Men” stuff with a dash of Idiocracy in there too.
+3 if humans give up on reproductive we’re in Wall-E territory.
Turn off the web?
Anonymous
11/21/2021 13:46
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We live in a dystopian hellscape and nothing proves it more than this.
+1. There will be major regrets over this when it’s really too late.
+2 this is creepy “Children of Men” stuff with a dash of Idiocracy in there too.
Anonymous
11/21/2021 13:44
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who is going to buy all this real estate that is the main investment for most families? Declining population is not helpful to a healthy real estate market.
Foreign investors have been buying up prime real estate for a while, driving up prices and property taxes.
Not talking about prime real estate. Ny has had its empty deluxe buildings for years. Talking about homes that house american families that represent most of their wealth.
Anonymous
11/21/2021 13:42
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:Who is going to buy all this real estate that is the main investment for most families? Declining population is not helpful to a healthy real estate market.
Great point.
Anonymous
11/21/2021 13:42
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:We live in a dystopian hellscape and nothing proves it more than this.
Somewhat.
Middle class life in Netherlands is objectively very good but it isn’t like they have a lot of kids their either
Anonymous
11/21/2021 13:39
Subject: Growing share of childless adults in U.S. don’t expect to ever have children
Anonymous wrote:Who is going to buy all this real estate that is the main investment for most families? Declining population is not helpful to a healthy real estate market.
Foreign investors have been buying up prime real estate for a while, driving up prices and property taxes.