Anonymous
Post 11/19/2021 08:18     Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench

I had to laugh at just about all the names mentioned here except for Sinema, who is certainly an interesting candidate.

For the Democrats to win, they need a candidate who can cross the aisle and win the moderate centrist independents and pick up a few Republican votes. The only person of all the names mentioned on here who has the potential to do that based on recent events is Sinema.

Buttigieg is not going to be the president, even if he gets nominated. As a gay man I'd love a gay president, but when many of my gay friends don't like Buttigieg, that tells you his sexuality is not going to be the ideal progressive draw for the woke crowd. The man is a creature of McKinsey, pretty close to your archetypical empty suit beltway politician, has no personality, and will not rouse excitement versus a Republican base that will be crawling out of their deathbeds and digging up grandma's corpse so she can still vote to win back the white house. He will win the educated liberal professionals because he is an educated liberal professional, but he will fall flat among all other demographics and Middle America.

The rest of the names are progressive wishful thinking. Warnock? When he probably will lose the senate seat next year. Fetterman? Just look at him and try to imagine him on the campaign trail. And he still hasn't won a senate seat, which is far from given when we're heading for a potentially huge Republican blowout in the 2022 elections.

Unfortunately, it's probably likely Biden is the Democrats' best chance as things currently stands, and unfortunately again, it's not good news for the Democrats. I've a feeling Sinema is more content to be senator for life from Arizona, her maverick independence playing very well among Arizona voters and with strong cross-party appeal.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2021 05:34     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh this post is so dumb. Joe Biden, the man who beat Donald Trump, will be the nominee.


He promised that he would be a one-term president.

He's not going to run again.


No he didn’t. That’s just wrong. He will likely run again - i dont think he wants to - but he knows he’s the best chance. He would def prefer to chill for the rest of his life now that he’s achieved the presidency.


Good luck with that. At his current rate of deterioration he won’t make it to the midterms much less 2024. And if he does he won’t have the pandemic as an excuse to hide out in his basement the entire campaign so no, not going to happen.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2021 05:18     Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench

Word is Meghan Markle wants the job, lol.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2021 04:15     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Anonymous wrote:If John Fetterman wins by double digits in PA-Sen, his buzz will only increase.


He’s my fav.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2021 03:06     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh this post is so dumb. Joe Biden, the man who beat Donald Trump, will be the nominee.


He promised that he would be a one-term president.

He's not going to run again.


No he didn’t. That’s just wrong. He will likely run again - i dont think he wants to - but he knows he’s the best chance. He would def prefer to chill for the rest of his life now that he’s achieved the presidency.


I’m not sure that Biden has the best chance. I know several people who feel betrayed by Biden on the vaccine mandates (he said he was against mandates) and that’s not considering all the other disasters like the border and Afghanistan. Another person would have a better chance, but I agree that there really isn’t anyone. GOP has a lot of interesting candidates in the pipeline.


When you say the border is a disaster and act like this is unique to Biden, I know I should never list to a f**king thing you say.

It’s been real.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2021 01:27     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Michelle Obama.

/thread
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2021 01:09     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh this post is so dumb. Joe Biden, the man who beat Donald Trump, will be the nominee.


He promised that he would be a one-term president.

He's not going to run again.


No he didn’t. That’s just wrong. He will likely run again - i dont think he wants to - but he knows he’s the best chance. He would def prefer to chill for the rest of his life now that he’s achieved the presidency.


I’m not sure that Biden has the best chance. I know several people who feel betrayed by Biden on the vaccine mandates (he said he was against mandates) and that’s not considering all the other disasters like the border and Afghanistan. Another person would have a better chance, but I agree that there really isn’t anyone. GOP has a lot of interesting candidates in the pipeline.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2021 22:03     Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Buttigieg is as close to exciting as I can think of among the younger group of potential candidates. Booker is a has been. Kennedy is a lightweight. Hate to say it, but Abrams can't win for obvious reasons at this point in our history. Sinema - seriously? I had high hopes for Kamala Harris, but she appears to be being sidelined for some reason. There are standouts among the progressives, but they're just too progressive for most of the country. Unless a dynamic, charasmatic candidate like Obama shows up (and even he probably couldn't win right now), Buttigieg it is.


She just spent a week in Europe shoring up foreign alliances, she was on the Senate floor over the last 48 hours breaking ties and she was on the podium at the BIB signing.

That isn't being sidelined. That is a right wing talking point to undermine her credibility.


So CNN is in the tank for the GOP now?

Got it.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2021 21:48     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh this post is so dumb. Joe Biden, the man who beat Donald Trump, will be the nominee.


He promised that he would be a one-term president.

He's not going to run again.


No he didn’t. That’s just wrong. He will likely run again - i dont think he wants to - but he knows he’s the best chance. He would def prefer to chill for the rest of his life now that he’s achieved the presidency.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2021 21:45     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Anonymous wrote:Andy Beshear.
John Bel Edwards might have a future if the Dems agree to let some subset of cultural war issues be decided by the states.
Mark Kelly
Kirsten Synema
Job Ossoff
Raphael Warnock
Tammy Duckworth
Ben Ray Lujan

Of this lot I’d rate Warnock the highest.

There’s probably folks in the House as well.

Obama was a freshly elected Senator this time in 2005.

Good list although there is NFW a divorced bisexual woman wins the presidency.
I’d like to add Mitch Landrieu.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2021 21:45     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

I personally would be excited for Joe Manchin. He doesn’t kowtow to the mob, he is a white man (has higher chance of winning) and doesn’t seem dumb.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2021 21:42     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Anonymous wrote:Probably Newsom. He can win California on Super Tuesday and lock down the SF/tech money.

Ask any Californian who is not very far left and we all hate him with a passion.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2021 21:42     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh this post is so dumb. Joe Biden, the man who beat Donald Trump, will be the nominee.


He promised that he would be a one-term president.

He's not going to run again.

Link to that “promise?”
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2021 21:42     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Anonymous wrote:Ugh this post is so dumb. Joe Biden, the man who beat Donald Trump, will be the nominee.


He promised that he would be a one-term president.

He's not going to run again.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2021 21:40     Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench

Ugh this post is so dumb. Joe Biden, the man who beat Donald Trump, will be the nominee.