Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 12:11     Subject: Re:Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

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Anonymous wrote:33 Snowfish: “Boobie is a teenage pyromaniac who has killed his parents and kidnapped his baby brother with the intention of selling him to the highest bidder. Custis is an orphan who, for most of his wretched life, has been the sexual slave of middle-aged pedophile. Curl is a teenaged prostitute who has a dangerous crush on Boobie. These three miserable outcasts have formed a tenuous bond and are all on the run for Boobie’s murder.”

This sounds like a real winner. If you read the Kyle Rittenhouse thread people think he’s guilty because he played Call of Duty. Where exactly do you place the oh-so-touching-tale of “teenage rape victim and sex slave”? Completely sordid that this book is Democrats’ hill to die on. It should be burned. If you gave my child this to read, I’d file charges for child abuse.


Perhaps in an earlier time pre-internet we might have had a spirited conversation on this topic, but it makes no sense to complain about the content of library books in the internet age when everything--and I mean EVERYTHING--is available to view within seconds on a cell phone screen. Whatever idyllic notion you have of childhood innocence shattered by this book--or any others you choose--trust me, it was shattered long ago.

Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean a parent has absolutely no ability to consent or control over what their child sees or reads. This book in particular in my opinion is very dark and for a more mature audience than teens. It discusses pedophilia, murder, rape, prostitution, a snuff film, child abuse, pyromania and drugs in a very matter of fact way.


You can control what books you bring into your home, you can control whether your child has internet access at home or you can put parental blocks on their computer and phone (But for how long? Until what age?), you can even control who their friends are (But how do you know what undesirable material your child is accessing at their friends' houses?), and now apparently you want to control specific books available in your child's school library, but you are not going to control their exposure to unsavory topics...for very long. Good luck though!


Attitudes like yours is why Youngkin was elected.


Attitudes like what?! You want me to match your outrage about random books in a random school somewhere in VA? You want me to go and scream at school boards? What, exactly, do you want people who do not share your desire to control every aspect of your child's education to do?
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 11:34     Subject: Re:Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:33 Snowfish: “Boobie is a teenage pyromaniac who has killed his parents and kidnapped his baby brother with the intention of selling him to the highest bidder. Custis is an orphan who, for most of his wretched life, has been the sexual slave of middle-aged pedophile. Curl is a teenaged prostitute who has a dangerous crush on Boobie. These three miserable outcasts have formed a tenuous bond and are all on the run for Boobie’s murder.”

This sounds like a real winner. If you read the Kyle Rittenhouse thread people think he’s guilty because he played Call of Duty. Where exactly do you place the oh-so-touching-tale of “teenage rape victim and sex slave”? Completely sordid that this book is Democrats’ hill to die on. It should be burned. If you gave my child this to read, I’d file charges for child abuse.


Perhaps in an earlier time pre-internet we might have had a spirited conversation on this topic, but it makes no sense to complain about the content of library books in the internet age when everything--and I mean EVERYTHING--is available to view within seconds on a cell phone screen. Whatever idyllic notion you have of childhood innocence shattered by this book--or any others you choose--trust me, it was shattered long ago.

Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean a parent has absolutely no ability to consent or control over what their child sees or reads. This book in particular in my opinion is very dark and for a more mature audience than teens. It discusses pedophilia, murder, rape, prostitution, a snuff film, child abuse, pyromania and drugs in a very matter of fact way.


You can control what books you bring into your home, you can control whether your child has internet access at home or you can put parental blocks on their computer and phone (But for how long? Until what age?), you can even control who their friends are (But how do you know what undesirable material your child is accessing at their friends' houses?), and now apparently you want to control specific books available in your child's school library, but you are not going to control their exposure to unsavory topics...for very long. Good luck though!

Attitudes like yours is why Youngkin was elected.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 11:29     Subject: Re:Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:33 Snowfish: “Boobie is a teenage pyromaniac who has killed his parents and kidnapped his baby brother with the intention of selling him to the highest bidder. Custis is an orphan who, for most of his wretched life, has been the sexual slave of middle-aged pedophile. Curl is a teenaged prostitute who has a dangerous crush on Boobie. These three miserable outcasts have formed a tenuous bond and are all on the run for Boobie’s murder.”

This sounds like a real winner. If you read the Kyle Rittenhouse thread people think he’s guilty because he played Call of Duty. Where exactly do you place the oh-so-touching-tale of “teenage rape victim and sex slave”? Completely sordid that this book is Democrats’ hill to die on. It should be burned. If you gave my child this to read, I’d file charges for child abuse.


Perhaps in an earlier time pre-internet we might have had a spirited conversation on this topic, but it makes no sense to complain about the content of library books in the internet age when everything--and I mean EVERYTHING--is available to view within seconds on a cell phone screen. Whatever idyllic notion you have of childhood innocence shattered by this book--or any others you choose--trust me, it was shattered long ago.

Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean a parent has absolutely no ability to consent or control over what their child sees or reads. This book in particular in my opinion is very dark and for a more mature audience than teens. It discusses pedophilia, murder, rape, prostitution, a snuff film, child abuse, pyromania and drugs in a very matter of fact way.


You can control what books you bring into your home, you can control whether your child has internet access at home or you can put parental blocks on their computer and phone (But for how long? Until what age?), you can even control who their friends are (But how do you know what undesirable material your child is accessing at their friends' houses?), and now apparently you want to control specific books available in your child's school library, but you are not going to control their exposure to unsavory topics...for very long. Good luck though!
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 11:17     Subject: Re:Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:33 Snowfish: “Boobie is a teenage pyromaniac who has killed his parents and kidnapped his baby brother with the intention of selling him to the highest bidder. Custis is an orphan who, for most of his wretched life, has been the sexual slave of middle-aged pedophile. Curl is a teenaged prostitute who has a dangerous crush on Boobie. These three miserable outcasts have formed a tenuous bond and are all on the run for Boobie’s murder.”

This sounds like a real winner. If you read the Kyle Rittenhouse thread people think he’s guilty because he played Call of Duty. Where exactly do you place the oh-so-touching-tale of “teenage rape victim and sex slave”? Completely sordid that this book is Democrats’ hill to die on. It should be burned. If you gave my child this to read, I’d file charges for child abuse.


Perhaps in an earlier time pre-internet we might have had a spirited conversation on this topic, but it makes no sense to complain about the content of library books in the internet age when everything--and I mean EVERYTHING--is available to view within seconds on a cell phone screen. Whatever idyllic notion you have of childhood innocence shattered by this book--or any others you choose--trust me, it was shattered long ago.

Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean a parent has absolutely no ability to consent or control over what their child sees or reads. This book in particular in my opinion is very dark and for a more mature audience than teens. It discusses pedophilia, murder, rape, prostitution, a snuff film, child abuse, pyromania and drugs in a very matter of fact way.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 11:15     Subject: Re:Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:33 Snowfish: “Boobie is a teenage pyromaniac who has killed his parents and kidnapped his baby brother with the intention of selling him to the highest bidder. Custis is an orphan who, for most of his wretched life, has been the sexual slave of middle-aged pedophile. Curl is a teenaged prostitute who has a dangerous crush on Boobie. These three miserable outcasts have formed a tenuous bond and are all on the run for Boobie’s murder.”

This sounds like a real winner. If you read the Kyle Rittenhouse thread people think he’s guilty because he played Call of Duty. Where exactly do you place the oh-so-touching-tale of “teenage rape victim and sex slave”? Completely sordid that this book is Democrats’ hill to die on. It should be burned. If you gave my child this to read, I’d file charges for child abuse.


Perhaps in an earlier time pre-internet we might have had a spirited conversation on this topic, but it makes no sense to complain about the content of library books in the internet age when everything--and I mean EVERYTHING--is available to view within seconds on a cell phone screen. Whatever idyllic notion you have of childhood innocence shattered by this book--or any others you choose--trust me, it was shattered long ago.


You can find passages from this book on Goodreads. I’d post them but my comment would get deleted because Google would flag it as pornography. Whatever non-idyllic view you have of childhood - trust ME, parents will turn into another branch of the military before allowing blatant porn in schools. If banning porn in school now meets the definition of fascism, sign me up Mussolini.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 11:04     Subject: Re:Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

Anonymous wrote:33 Snowfish: “Boobie is a teenage pyromaniac who has killed his parents and kidnapped his baby brother with the intention of selling him to the highest bidder. Custis is an orphan who, for most of his wretched life, has been the sexual slave of middle-aged pedophile. Curl is a teenaged prostitute who has a dangerous crush on Boobie. These three miserable outcasts have formed a tenuous bond and are all on the run for Boobie’s murder.”

This sounds like a real winner. If you read the Kyle Rittenhouse thread people think he’s guilty because he played Call of Duty. Where exactly do you place the oh-so-touching-tale of “teenage rape victim and sex slave”? Completely sordid that this book is Democrats’ hill to die on. It should be burned. If you gave my child this to read, I’d file charges for child abuse.


Perhaps in an earlier time pre-internet we might have had a spirited conversation on this topic, but it makes no sense to complain about the content of library books in the internet age when everything--and I mean EVERYTHING--is available to view within seconds on a cell phone screen. Whatever idyllic notion you have of childhood innocence shattered by this book--or any others you choose--trust me, it was shattered long ago.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 10:53     Subject: Re:Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

33 Snowfish: “Boobie is a teenage pyromaniac who has killed his parents and kidnapped his baby brother with the intention of selling him to the highest bidder. Custis is an orphan who, for most of his wretched life, has been the sexual slave of middle-aged pedophile. Curl is a teenaged prostitute who has a dangerous crush on Boobie. These three miserable outcasts have formed a tenuous bond and are all on the run for Boobie’s murder.”

This sounds like a real winner. If you read the Kyle Rittenhouse thread people think he’s guilty because he played Call of Duty. Where exactly do you place the oh-so-touching-tale of “teenage rape victim and sex slave”? Completely sordid that this book is Democrats’ hill to die on. It should be burned. If you gave my child this to read, I’d file charges for child abuse.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 10:37     Subject: Re:Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

Anonymous wrote:I'm not for burning books. But, I also don't have a lot of faith in recommendations from the American Library Association. Even the ALA said the book was a "dark tale." How dark? How many members reviewed the book?

Librarians who order book usually depend on those reviews to make decisions. Many have never seen the book and never even look at it. Librarians in school libraries order hundreds of books every year and depend on those reviews. Maybe it is time to learn how the reviewers are selected.

Remember, this is about books in school libraries. Banning a book from a school library is hardly the same as banning books from the public.



Now you want to micromanage the selection of reviewers of children's library books?!
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 10:33     Subject: Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with kids learning about sexual abuse, drug addiction, and prostitution. They are likely to encounter all of this in their teens.


Dude, they're seeing way worse stuff on the internet! They can also hear first-hand accounts about these topics on Tik Tok. And if you don't know that already, you are willfully naive.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 10:30     Subject: Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

This is the absolute sticks. No surprise.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 10:26     Subject: Re:Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

I'm not for burning books. But, I also don't have a lot of faith in recommendations from the American Library Association. Even the ALA said the book was a "dark tale." How dark? How many members reviewed the book?

Librarians who order book usually depend on those reviews to make decisions. Many have never seen the book and never even look at it. Librarians in school libraries order hundreds of books every year and depend on those reviews. Maybe it is time to learn how the reviewers are selected.

Remember, this is about books in school libraries. Banning a book from a school library is hardly the same as banning books from the public.

Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 09:24     Subject: Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

I’m sure the library is full of books on both sides of the political spectrum. And it’s not like they are taking about To kill a mockingbird here. As a parent, I find it somewhat exhausting to find books for my kids that are recently published and not focused on a special category vs ethics or a god forbid good writing with a good story. The Catcher in the Rye would have never been published now - too white - too male - too straight. And they pulled similar shit when I was in high school we read poorly written books because they were diverse. Look why aren’t they suggesting Invisible Man instead of this drivel? There are many great diverse books but the ones you are describing certainly don’t sound like it.
jsteele
Post 11/11/2021 08:30     Subject: Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

Anonymous wrote:I do find it odd that that ratios of LGBTQ-themed to straight-themed books about teen relationships were so heavily skewed towards LQBTQ.

That’s just ….like I said - odd. Most teens are not LGBTQ, so it makes no sense that fiction books about teens dating should be 166-to-2 in favor of LGBTQ storylines.

I’m not suggesting book burning, but someone definitely needs to look into the library system’s procurement process.




Can you please explain what you are referencing?
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 08:22     Subject: Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

I do find it odd that that ratios of LGBTQ-themed to straight-themed books about teen relationships were so heavily skewed towards LQBTQ.

That’s just ….like I said - odd. Most teens are not LGBTQ, so it makes no sense that fiction books about teens dating should be 166-to-2 in favor of LGBTQ storylines.

I’m not suggesting book burning, but someone definitely needs to look into the library system’s procurement process.


Anonymous
Post 11/10/2021 15:59     Subject: Virginia School Board Proposes Burning Books

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The GOP isn’t fascist at all, they have literally nothing in common with the Nazis and they certainly don’t share the same ideology as them.


I assume this was sarcasm.


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