Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 16:20     Subject: Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

So wait.

If you plan on being full-pay, what's your best bet for types of admission?

Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 15:55     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, there is another admissions category?

Parent of a junior just getting the lay of the land. So there is ED1, ED2, EA, RD and now SCEA? Am I missing anything else?


There is also REA slightly different from the SCEA.


What is the difference? There was no difference between REA and SCEA, not at least for Yale, Harvard and Stanford (schools my kid applied to). Harvard and Stanford refer to it as REA and Yale uses both terms interchangeably.

Yeah, I was thinking the same. If anything SCEA miht be a subset of REA, but the terms are used pretty much interchangably.

Has no one applied to Harvard early? We seem to have 1 for Y, P and S, maybe two for Y. Where are all the early apps? Did people really bale on early Ivies? So weird.


This is all very anecdotal, so who knows — but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if SCEA applications to the Ivy’s are down vs. last year. So few kids were successful last year, and SCEA is so limiting, that I could see kids taking their ED shot at a school where they have a better shot at success, and spreading a bunch of EA’s around. RD is so disadvantaged now, that fewer will want to put all their eggs in an Ivy basket and face the possibility that they’ll be scrambling during the RD round (even if they can also apply to public universities). If they don’t get in to their ED, or just did EAs, they can throw an app in to the Ivy RD, if they still want to play the lottery.


Exactly what I'm hearing from a lot of kids. Ivy is such a crap shoot lottery it isn't worth wasting a binding early app when you have a more reasonable shot ED into other great schools and can EA to many to make sure you have some good options in the end. If you don't get into the ED, then spread the apps wide and far everywhere. Strong student still do get into Ivy RD, so it begins to feel like same difference at that point. Personally, I think they need to do away with this system and just limit the number of schools any one student can apply to.


I'm pp and this is what my DC is doing. He'll send in a total of 8 or so EAs (Nov. 15 deadline for some) to schools with a wide range of selectivity, and he may yet do EDII to a "Top 20" school. After the dust settles on that, he may throw in some Ivy applications, just to see what happens (he's got the stats and is geographically desirable from an Ivy standpoint). But he was not interested at all in limiting himself to applying to one Ivy as far as private schools go.

I'm sure the Ivys will get applications from more qualified students than they can admit, as always, but it will be interesting to see if they've overplayed their hand a bit and begin to lose their usual "first dibs" on the very best students (especially of the "non-hooked" variety).
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 14:42     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Which program is easier to get into (relative)? Princeton financial program or the Wharton Penn financial program. A friend's DD with high stats applied early to Penn early.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 14:40     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

DS applied early to Princeton financial program.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2021 14:22     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG, there is another admissions category?

Parent of a junior just getting the lay of the land. So there is ED1, ED2, EA, RD and now SCEA? Am I missing anything else?


There is also REA slightly different from the SCEA.


What is the difference? There was no difference between REA and SCEA, not at least for Yale, Harvard and Stanford (schools my kid applied to). Harvard and Stanford refer to it as REA and Yale uses both terms interchangeably.

Yeah, I was thinking the same. If anything SCEA miht be a subset of REA, but the terms are used pretty much interchangably.

Has no one applied to Harvard early? We seem to have 1 for Y, P and S, maybe two for Y. Where are all the early apps? Did people really bale on early Ivies? So weird.


This is all very anecdotal, so who knows — but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if SCEA applications to the Ivy’s are down vs. last year. So few kids were successful last year, and SCEA is so limiting, that I could see kids taking their ED shot at a school where they have a better shot at success, and spreading a bunch of EA’s around. RD is so disadvantaged now, that fewer will want to put all their eggs in an Ivy basket and face the possibility that they’ll be scrambling during the RD round (even if they can also apply to public universities). If they don’t get in to their ED, or just did EAs, they can throw an app in to the Ivy RD, if they still want to play the lottery.


Exactly what I'm hearing from a lot of kids. Ivy is such a crap shoot lottery it isn't worth wasting a binding early app when you have a more reasonable shot ED into other great schools and can EA to many to make sure you have some good options in the end. If you don't get into the ED, then spread the apps wide and far everywhere. Strong student still do get into Ivy RD, so it begins to feel like same difference at that point. Personally, I think they need to do away with this system and just limit the number of schools any one student can apply to.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2021 22:48     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG, there is another admissions category?

Parent of a junior just getting the lay of the land. So there is ED1, ED2, EA, RD and now SCEA? Am I missing anything else?


There is also REA slightly different from the SCEA.


What is the difference? There was no difference between REA and SCEA, not at least for Yale, Harvard and Stanford (schools my kid applied to). Harvard and Stanford refer to it as REA and Yale uses both terms interchangeably.


HYPS use SCEA, namely only a single non-binding choice for early round for privates. No restriction on EA to public schools. (I know the schools may use the term REA but SCEA is more precise and widely used.)

Georgetown and Notre Dame use REA, no restriction on early action. But you can't ED to other schools. Technically you can REA to Georgetown and also EA to MIT. But you can't do that with SCEA.


I was PP who asked about difference. Thanks for the explanation. My kids did not apply to those schools so I learned something new today
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2021 22:31     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG, there is another admissions category?

Parent of a junior just getting the lay of the land. So there is ED1, ED2, EA, RD and now SCEA? Am I missing anything else?


There is also REA slightly different from the SCEA.


What is the difference? There was no difference between REA and SCEA, not at least for Yale, Harvard and Stanford (schools my kid applied to). Harvard and Stanford refer to it as REA and Yale uses both terms interchangeably.


HYPS use SCEA, namely only a single non-binding choice for early round for privates. No restriction on EA to public schools. (I know the schools may use the term REA but SCEA is more precise and widely used.)

Georgetown and Notre Dame use REA, no restriction on early action. But you can't ED to other schools. Technically you can REA to Georgetown and also EA to MIT. But you can't do that with SCEA.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2021 20:45     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG, there is another admissions category?

Parent of a junior just getting the lay of the land. So there is ED1, ED2, EA, RD and now SCEA? Am I missing anything else?


There is also REA slightly different from the SCEA.


What is the difference? There was no difference between REA and SCEA, not at least for Yale, Harvard and Stanford (schools my kid applied to). Harvard and Stanford refer to it as REA and Yale uses both terms interchangeably.

Yeah, I was thinking the same. If anything SCEA miht be a subset of REA, but the terms are used pretty much interchangably.

Has no one applied to Harvard early? We seem to have 1 for Y, P and S, maybe two for Y. Where are all the early apps? Did people really bale on early Ivies? So weird.


This is all very anecdotal, so who knows — but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if SCEA applications to the Ivy’s are down vs. last year. So few kids were successful last year, and SCEA is so limiting, that I could see kids taking their ED shot at a school where they have a better shot at success, and spreading a bunch of EA’s around. RD is so disadvantaged now, that fewer will want to put all their eggs in an Ivy basket and face the possibility that they’ll be scrambling during the RD round (even if they can also apply to public universities). If they don’t get in to their ED, or just did EAs, they can throw an app in to the Ivy RD, if they still want to play the lottery.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2021 20:33     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG, there is another admissions category?

Parent of a junior just getting the lay of the land. So there is ED1, ED2, EA, RD and now SCEA? Am I missing anything else?


There is also REA slightly different from the SCEA.


What is the difference? There was no difference between REA and SCEA, not at least for Yale, Harvard and Stanford (schools my kid applied to). Harvard and Stanford refer to it as REA and Yale uses both terms interchangeably.

Yeah, I was thinking the same. If anything SCEA miht be a subset of REA, but the terms are used pretty much interchangably.

Has no one applied to Harvard early? We seem to have 1 for Y, P and S, maybe two for Y. Where are all the early apps? Did people really bale on early Ivies? So weird.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2021 18:07     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG, there is another admissions category?

Parent of a junior just getting the lay of the land. So there is ED1, ED2, EA, RD and now SCEA? Am I missing anything else?


There is also REA slightly different from the SCEA.


What is the difference? There was no difference between REA and SCEA, not at least for Yale, Harvard and Stanford (schools my kid applied to). Harvard and Stanford refer to it as REA and Yale uses both terms interchangeably.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2021 16:51     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Anonymous wrote:OMG, there is another admissions category?

Parent of a junior just getting the lay of the land. So there is ED1, ED2, EA, RD and now SCEA? Am I missing anything else?


There is also REA slightly different from the SCEA.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2021 16:36     Subject: Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Anonymous wrote:Single choice early action. You cannot apply other early action or early decision (maybe except early action at public school).


This means you can only apply to Public schools EA, rolling admissions schools, and international schools.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2021 08:49     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Anonymous wrote:Which schools are EA2?

I don't think any of the SCEA schools have a 2nd round.

Any other SCEA apps for 2022?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 15:54     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Which schools are EA2?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 15:54     Subject: Re:Did many kids apply SCEA to HYPS this year?

Anonymous wrote:
Some schools have EA1 and EA2

Ok, I've heard of ED2. There's an EA2, too?


Yes, the whole thing is utterly ridiculous.