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Anonymous wrote:Someone please summarize? If not school then what

It is school, just not the CRT stuff or vaccine or mask mandates. They’re angry that schools stayed closed for as long as they did and that the Democrats seemed dismissive of parents’ concerns about the resulting disruption and learning loss. I certainly understand their concerns but they do come off a bit self centered… like all that matters is them and their family, not the healthcare workers or teachers or the medically vulnerable. I think Democrats’ biggest mistake wasn’t necessarily closing schools, but for not showing more concern about the fallout now. Terry couldn’t even manage to fake it. He just didn’t connect with suburban women as much as he needed to.

Yes, we all know this is why Youngkin won suburban moms who previously voted Democratic. Why is this such big news to this Pamela lady? Everybody else knew this.

McAuliffe was just a boring, uninspiring candidate. If we'd had someone young, fresh, more progressive, they would have won.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s an article on the Daily Intelligencer about the NJ Gov race….same exact thing, only the Dem squeaked out the win.

Closing schools for that long was a huge political blunder. Very few area were as extreme, other than CA. We’re in MA and were hybrid for most of the year.

The Dems in CA and NYC only survived because they were literally running against nutcases. Parents were angry but they weren't infuriated enough to vote for a guy who brings his cats to the poll.

NYC also managed to produce a non-woke democratic candidate for mayor.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m blonde and voted for Biden and Youngkin. I would’ve voted for trump if he’d just said get the vaccine. I blame him for this crap lasting as long as it has. Voted for Youngkin because I believe in capitalism. He was ceo if Carlyle. I was very close to voting for mcsuliffe, but didn’t because I don’t want schools closed again. I’m also pro life.

Trump is the reason we have the vaccine in such a short time.

He also said get the vaccine and still says get the vaccine.

Uh no. The first effective vaccine was Pfizer, which did not take part in operation warp speed.

The whole world wanted a vaccine, it wasn’t rocket science to invest in it.

If he has used that war act to make N95 rather than ventilators, I might give him some credit. But all GOP focus on is treatments (horse meds, monoclonal, ventilators) and are unwilling to do anything to control the spread of virus because “freedom”.

There goes a liberal, making up his own facts again.

https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_565aa63a-4c46-4eea-9586-093253d1bdf3

FFS, Pfizer announced it wasn’t part of Operation Warp Speed, and this “fact” is simply a CNN opinion piece.

What happened is by July, Pfizer saw the other vaccine makers were making good progress and scooping up gobs of money, and they blinked because if their competitors locked in contracts for the entire country they could have been locked out of the domestic market. And with the transport limitations that were expected at that time (remember all the fridges?), it couldn’t just sell overseas.

The vaccines were going to be made, and honestly mRNA are fairly easy to make at scale, Warp Speed wasn’t really the deciding factor. It does mean that crazies can still hold out hope for Novavax, because they needed the money.

Anonymous wrote:“ School closures lasted longer in the United States than in most high-income countries, and much longer in blue jurisdictions than in red ones. Virginia had the seventh-fewest days of in-person learning last year among the 50 states, according to the website Burbio. New Jersey was 10th.

NPR's recent polling with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health found that 69% of parents were concerned that their children had missed learning during remote schooling, and the available evidence suggests that those concerns are justified.”

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/04/1052101647/education-parents-election-virginia-republicans

Fascinating - here's the list of 'top' 10 states with the least number of in-person days

https://cai.burbio.com/school-opening-tracker/

1 - California
2 - Oregon
3 - Maryland
4 - Washington
5 - Hawaii
6 - New Mexico
7 - Virginia
8 - Illinois
9 - Nevada
10 - New Jersey

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Anonymous wrote:I’m blonde and voted for Biden and Youngkin. I would’ve voted for trump if he’d just said get the vaccine. I blame him for this crap lasting as long as it has. Voted for Youngkin because I believe in capitalism. He was ceo if Carlyle. I was very close to voting for mcsuliffe, but didn’t because I don’t want schools closed again. I’m also pro life.

Trump is the reason we have the vaccine in such a short time.

He also said get the vaccine and still says get the vaccine.

Uh no. The first effective vaccine was Pfizer, which did not take part in operation warp speed.

The whole world wanted a vaccine, it wasn’t rocket science to invest in it.

If he has used that war act to make N95 rather than ventilators, I might give him some credit. But all GOP focus on is treatments (horse meds, monoclonal, ventilators) and are unwilling to do anything to control the spread of virus because “freedom”.

There goes a liberal, making up his own facts again.

https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_565aa63a-4c46-4eea-9586-093253d1bdf3

“ School closures lasted longer in the United States than in most high-income countries, and much longer in blue jurisdictions than in red ones. Virginia had the seventh-fewest days of in-person learning last year among the 50 states, according to the website Burbio. New Jersey was 10th.

NPR's recent polling with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health found that 69% of parents were concerned that their children had missed learning during remote schooling, and the available evidence suggests that those concerns are justified.”

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/04/1052101647/education-parents-election-virginia-republicans

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Anonymous wrote:I’m blonde and voted for Biden and Youngkin. I would’ve voted for trump if he’d just said get the vaccine. I blame him for this crap lasting as long as it has. Voted for Youngkin because I believe in capitalism. He was ceo if Carlyle. I was very close to voting for mcsuliffe, but didn’t because I don’t want schools closed again. I’m also pro life.

Trump is the reason we have the vaccine in such a short time.

He also said get the vaccine and still says get the vaccine.

Uh no. The first effective vaccine was Pfizer, which did not take part in operation warp speed.

The whole world wanted a vaccine, it wasn’t rocket science to invest in it.

If he has used that war act to make N95 rather than ventilators, I might give him some credit. But all GOP focus on is treatments (horse meds, monoclonal, ventilators) and are unwilling to do anything to control the spread of virus because “freedom”.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please summarize? If not school then what

It is school, just not the CRT stuff or vaccine or mask mandates. They’re angry that schools stayed closed for as long as they did and that the Democrats seemed dismissive of parents’ concerns about the resulting disruption and learning loss. I certainly understand their concerns but they do come off a bit self centered… like all that matters is them and their family, not the healthcare workers or teachers or the medically vulnerable. I think Democrats’ biggest mistake wasn’t necessarily closing schools, but for not showing more concern about the fallout now. Terry couldn’t even manage to fake it. He just didn’t connect with suburban women as much as he needed to.

Pretty much the majority of people, of every race, in every democratic country around the world is going to vote in their own self-interest. It’s human nature.

I am a progressive who has never and likely will never vote for a Republican (I only say likely never because I can imagine a Dem candidate too literally crazy to vote for). My politics align pretty closely with AOC. The CRT stuff is all just racist dog whistle. I can’t stand Youngkin.

School closures, the rhetoric of people who supported them, and the pure ineptitude of the mostly Democratic politicians who enabled it, was absolutely rage inducing. The PP upthread put it well. Telling parents dismissively that they should not have a say in public education, after they spent 18 months home with their kids, in some cases fully occupying the role of educator, was some messed up stuff. I’ve disliked McAuliffe since the 90s— he’s a hack centrist who isn’t that smart. Guys like him will give it all away.

Anonymous wrote:I’m blonde and voted for Biden and Youngkin. I would’ve voted for trump if he’d just said get the vaccine. I blame him for this crap lasting as long as it has. Voted for Youngkin because I believe in capitalism. He was ceo if Carlyle. I was very close to voting for mcsuliffe, but didn’t because I don’t want schools closed again. I’m also pro life.

Trump is the reason we have the vaccine in such a short time.

He also said get the vaccine and still says get the vaccine.

Anonymous wrote:What private schools do youngkins and mcaullifes kids attend? McAuliffe was SO tone deaf on the school closure/learning loss issues.

Georgetown Prep, St. Albans, Gonzaga, and Potomac. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcauliffe-raised-5-kids-in-virginia-but-sent-them-to-private-schools/ar-AAQapfN

What private schools do youngkins and mcaullifes kids attend? McAuliffe was SO tone deaf on the school closure/learning loss issues.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone please summarize? If not school then what

It was school but it wasn't vaccine mandates in school or CRT.

It was school closures and learning loss. They said McAuliffe had no plans to address the school failures and their kids academic challenges.

His whole “parents shouldn’t have a say in schools” after a year and a half of having to literally manage their kids education at home was incredibly dismissive and tone-deaf. And when called on it, he just doubled down. He needed open ears and a closed mouth, not the other way around.

Just wondering, were his kids private schools open all last year? (I voted for him but not with enthusiasm for the exact reason)

McAuliffe's kids are all adults and out of secondary school. Youngkin's were in private school and yes they were all open.

I’m blonde and voted for Biden and Youngkin. I would’ve voted for trump if he’d just said get the vaccine. I blame him for this crap lasting as long as it has. Voted for Youngkin because I believe in capitalism. He was ceo if Carlyle. I was very close to voting for mcsuliffe, but didn’t because I don’t want schools closed again. I’m also pro life.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone please summarize? If not school then what

It was school but it wasn't vaccine mandates in school or CRT.

It was school closures and learning loss. They said McAuliffe had no plans to address the school failures and their kids academic challenges.

His whole “parents shouldn’t have a say in schools” after a year and a half of having to literally manage their kids education at home was incredibly dismissive and tone-deaf. And when called on it, he just doubled down. He needed open ears and a closed mouth, not the other way around.

Just wondering, were his kids private schools open all last year? (I voted for him but not with enthusiasm for the exact reason)