I feel like this OP has posted before about parents that refuse to move close to her.

Give it another 6 months and revisit the subject in Spring.

To be honest I think your parents are immensely sensible and preserving their own lives as best they can.

My best friend's parents sheltered for over a year, went for their covid shots, caught pneumonia and were put in hospital with covid patients (in the UK) where they died.

It was horrible.

Agree you should visit them, if they are amenable. I flew with my 4yo over the summer to visit family because it was important to me and the risks were low.

I’d just go out to visit them myself. You only have so much time left with them.

Their lives, their health, their choice.

In the meantime, do weekly Zoom calls (or every other week), where they get a see the kids, even if it is 10 minutes. Or do it like a conference room and put the screen at the table during dinner (so you have the kids captive for a bit).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have given in to the other hysteria, covid fearmongering. They must be glued to constant coverage of nothing works, variants, masks..
It is detrimental to our society just as much as covid deniers! These people are torturing themselves.
Will they even see you if you go there? Or will they insist you wish them dead?

Its not fear and they may have health issues. Covid has killed 750K people just in the US alone. Many millions around the world. You can deny covid and make fun of them but they are right to be careful. OP refuses to travel.

Wait? OP refuses to travel? Pot meet kettle! Her parents could say that OP is refusing to see them! The audacity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's that important to you, I'd fly with your kids to see them. (I have flown with unvaccinated kids. So not just saying something I wouldn't do myself.)

Kids can test upon arrival.

I don't know about the - they don't like having you stay with them and there is nothing to do - part. That is a whole different issue.

I have friends like this in my life and sad to say, they're just not going to be part of my life anymore. But it's not my parents. Sorry OP. Sucks.

This.

Do you and your kids have underlying conditions? I get being COVID cautious, but at this point, many, many people have and are traveling. I don't have a lot of sympathy for the flying with kids is so hard argument. Sure, but you get through it.

Anyway, TL : DR - I'd make a plan to fly there and see them.

OP is saying they aren't flying. They never said they were being cautious.

Anonymous wrote:They have given in to the other hysteria, covid fearmongering. They must be glued to constant coverage of nothing works, variants, masks..
It is detrimental to our society just as much as covid deniers! These people are torturing themselves.
Will they even see you if you go there? Or will they insist you wish them dead?

Its not fear and they may have health issues. Covid has killed 750K people just in the US alone. Many millions around the world. You can deny covid and make fun of them but they are right to be careful. OP refuses to travel.

Anonymous wrote:They refuse to get on a plane and you refuse to get on a plane. How is that 'don't want to see us'.

You could drive out there in a road-trip or you can get on a plane. Everything is not on them.

This, you are blaming them for not visiting when you aren't willing. You are being completely disrespectful of their concerns about covid and its only about you.

We aren't seeing my family for the same reason. We are being cautious, they aren't and I'm not getting covid from them traveling and other things. Its not worth the risk of seeing them.

You should quarantine for two weeks and drive out if its so important. I will not let anyone into my house still, especially someone flying.

Sounds like the Amtrak California Zephyr may be in your future. It's a great trip!

OP-I'm interested to hear what your parents' long term plan is. What will help them return to some normalcy? Kids vaccinated? A certain data point in the rate of infections?
It sounds like they are stuck.
Can they talk to a trusted health professional to get the ok to add an activity (eating at a restaurant outdoors) or lessen safety measures a notch?

Maybe once they take some small steps while not getting sick, they will progress to having vaccinated family visits.

They have given in to the other hysteria, covid fearmongering. They must be glued to constant coverage of nothing works, variants, masks..
It is detrimental to our society just as much as covid deniers! These people are torturing themselves.
Will they even see you if you go there? Or will they insist you wish them dead?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's much easier for them to come here.

Easier for whom?

Another +1

Because hosting a family (even if you love them) is a PITA. Hosting just the one kid you raised is easier and that quality time is important too. And safer since an adult can be vaccinated and boosted.

Anonymous wrote:If it's that important to you, I'd fly with your kids to see them. (I have flown with unvaccinated kids. So not just saying something I wouldn't do myself.)

Kids can test upon arrival.

I don't know about the - they don't like having you stay with them and there is nothing to do - part. That is a whole different issue.

I have friends like this in my life and sad to say, they're just not going to be part of my life anymore. But it's not my parents. Sorry OP. Sucks.

This.

Do you and your kids have underlying conditions? I get being COVID cautious, but at this point, many, many people have and are traveling. I don't have a lot of sympathy for the flying with kids is so hard argument. Sure, but you get through it.

Anyway, TL : DR - I'd make a plan to fly there and see them.