Anonymous
10/30/2021 17:05
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To each their own but maybe focus on quality of education first?
OP is asking cuz it’s very difficult being one of few black students/females in an all white/Asian environment. It’s like being one of few Asians in a white/black environment - or being one of few whites in an all Asian/black environment. It’s a mental health issue.
If OP's daughter doesn't handle being one of the few black female computer programmers in college, how will she cope in the real world afterwards?
IT / computer programming is actually a very diverse field but I suppose it's the wrong sort of diversity. But it does underscore that when people talk about wanting diversity, what they really mean is wanting people who look just like them, not a genuine diversity.
Quality of education isn't mutually exclusive from being in an environment where you are not simply tolerated, but welcomed. And when you are a minority in terms of gender, race, and/or ethnicity, you are well served to be in a space that is welcoming because not all spaces are. When you are young and away from home for the first time, confidence and support is key. OP - I don't have an answer to your specific questions but I am a black female at Meta (was Facebook). I went to FAMU, an HBCU. I now oversee graduates of many of the top CS schools in the country, MIT, Stanford, and Cornell. It was extremely important to me to be able to focus on my studies and not have to worry about racism and microaggressions during undergrad. The field is not diverse at all, when it comes to women, African-Americans, or Hispanic Americans, but to the poster above, I had no problem "coping" in the real world afterwards. This is because I built the skills without distraction and knew my worth. I graduated with the confidence that is needed to be a double minority in this field. Good luck. I think people here have given you great advice about how to figure out the answer to your question. This thread, with the exception of a few posts, was way more respectful than I would have imagined. Every now and then DCUM surprises me.
Thank you for this! My daughter loved reading this.
Anonymous
10/30/2021 17:05
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:My quick Google:
https://ripplematch.com/journal/article/colleges-and-universities-with-the-most-gender-balanced-computer-science-programs-93fe6d9d/
Thank you.
Anonymous
10/30/2021 16:54
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To each their own but maybe focus on quality of education first?
OP is asking cuz it’s very difficult being one of few black students/females in an all white/Asian environment. It’s like being one of few Asians in a white/black environment - or being one of few whites in an all Asian/black environment. It’s a mental health issue.
If OP's daughter doesn't handle being one of the few black female computer programmers in college, how will she cope in the real world afterwards?
IT / computer programming is actually a very diverse field but I suppose it's the wrong sort of diversity. But it does underscore that when people talk about wanting diversity, what they really mean is wanting people who look just like them, not a genuine diversity.
Quality of education isn't mutually exclusive from being in an environment where you are not simply tolerated, but welcomed. And when you are a minority in terms of gender, race, and/or ethnicity, you are well served to be in a space that is welcoming because not all spaces are. When you are young and away from home for the first time, confidence and support is key. OP - I don't have an answer to your specific questions but I am a black female at Meta (was Facebook). I went to FAMU, an HBCU. I now oversee graduates of many of the top CS schools in the country, MIT, Stanford, and Cornell. It was extremely important to me to be able to focus on my studies and not have to worry about racism and microaggressions during undergrad. The field is not diverse at all, when it comes to women, African-Americans, or Hispanic Americans, but to the poster above, I had no problem "coping" in the real world afterwards. This is because I built the skills without distraction and knew my worth. I graduated with the confidence that is needed to be a double minority in this field. Good luck. I think people here have given you great advice about how to figure out the answer to your question. This thread, with the exception of a few posts, was way more respectful than I would have imagined. Every now and then DCUM surprises me.
This!!!
Anonymous
10/30/2021 12:34
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To each their own but maybe focus on quality of education first?
OP is asking cuz it’s very difficult being one of few black students/females in an all white/Asian environment. It’s like being one of few Asians in a white/black environment - or being one of few whites in an all Asian/black environment. It’s a mental health issue.
If OP's daughter doesn't handle being one of the few black female computer programmers in college, how will she cope in the real world afterwards?
IT / computer programming is actually a very diverse field but I suppose it's the wrong sort of diversity. But it does underscore that when people talk about wanting diversity, what they really mean is wanting people who look just like them, not a genuine diversity.
Come back after you have lived a little. Sounds like you haven’t lived long enough.
Anonymous
10/30/2021 11:36
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To each their own but maybe focus on quality of education first?
Wow.
Klan-tactic!
Anonymous
10/30/2021 11:31
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To each their own but maybe focus on quality of education first?
OP is asking cuz it’s very difficult being one of few black students/females in an all white/Asian environment. It’s like being one of few Asians in a white/black environment - or being one of few whites in an all Asian/black environment. It’s a mental health issue.
If OP's daughter doesn't handle being one of the few black female computer programmers in college, how will she cope in the real world afterwards?
IT / computer programming is actually a very diverse field but I suppose it's the wrong sort of diversity. But it does underscore that when people talk about wanting diversity, what they really mean is wanting people who look just like them, not a genuine diversity.
Or, lots of different types of people. Not just one or two kinds of people. Idiot.
Anonymous
10/30/2021 11:10
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:To each their own but maybe focus on quality of education first?
Wow.
Anonymous
10/30/2021 11:03
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To each their own but maybe focus on quality of education first?
OP is asking cuz it’s very difficult being one of few black students/females in an all white/Asian environment. It’s like being one of few Asians in a white/black environment - or being one of few whites in an all Asian/black environment. It’s a mental health issue.
If OP's daughter doesn't handle being one of the few black female computer programmers in college, how will she cope in the real world afterwards?
IT / computer programming is actually a very diverse field but I suppose it's the wrong sort of diversity. But it does underscore that when people talk about wanting diversity, what they really mean is wanting people who look just like them, not a genuine diversity.
Quality of education isn't mutually exclusive from being in an environment where you are not simply tolerated, but welcomed. And when you are a minority in terms of gender, race, and/or ethnicity, you are well served to be in a space that is welcoming because not all spaces are. When you are young and away from home for the first time, confidence and support is key. OP - I don't have an answer to your specific questions but I am a black female at Meta (was Facebook). I went to FAMU, an HBCU. I now oversee graduates of many of the top CS schools in the country, MIT, Stanford, and Cornell. It was extremely important to me to be able to focus on my studies and not have to worry about racism and microaggressions during undergrad. The field is not diverse at all, when it comes to women, African-Americans, or Hispanic Americans, but to the poster above, I had no problem "coping" in the real world afterwards. This is because I built the skills without distraction and knew my worth. I graduated with the confidence that is needed to be a double minority in this field. Good luck. I think people here have given you great advice about how to figure out the answer to your question. This thread, with the exception of a few posts, was way more respectful than I would have imagined. Every now and then DCUM surprises me.
Anonymous
10/30/2021 10:38
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous
10/30/2021 10:37
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth has a strong reputation for women engineers.
+1 I think Dartmouth announced Thayer hit 50% women. But I have no idea about undergrad CS. But maybe a google of announcements like this.
Anonymous
10/30/2021 10:28
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To each their own but maybe focus on quality of education first?
OP is asking cuz it’s very difficult being one of few black students/females in an all white/Asian environment. It’s like being one of few Asians in a white/black environment - or being one of few whites in an all Asian/black environment. It’s a mental health issue.
If OP's daughter doesn't handle being one of the few black female computer programmers in college, how will she cope in the real world afterwards?
IT / computer programming is actually a very diverse field but I suppose it's the wrong sort of diversity. But it does underscore that when people talk about wanting diversity, what they really mean is wanting people who look just like them, not a genuine diversity.
Anonymous
10/30/2021 08:29
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
UMBC has a good CS program and a higher than average AA enrollment (28% for first year 2021-2022). You would have to ask about the breakdown for the program though.
https://about.umbc.edu/
https://about.umbc.edu/
Anonymous
10/30/2021 01:00
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Anonymous wrote:To each their own but maybe focus on quality of education first?
OP is asking cuz it’s very difficult being one of few black students/females in an all white/Asian environment. It’s like being one of few Asians in a white/black environment - or being one of few whites in an all Asian/black environment. It’s a mental health issue.
Anonymous
10/30/2021 00:37
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Avoid mismatch - if your child doesn't hit the average Asian SAT score for a college, she's a lot more likely to finish with a softer degree than engineering.
Spelman isn't easy to get into, but it's got a rep as being serious. Great place for a hard-working black girl. I wouldn't worry about the school having a liberal arts rep; their engineering & math programs are solid.
Otherwise, they graduated quite a while ago, and it's not exactly a large sample size, but my black female IT bosses came from NCA&T and Hampton University, respectively, and both were very good at their jobs.
Spelman isn't easy to get into, but it's got a rep as being serious. Great place for a hard-working black girl. I wouldn't worry about the school having a liberal arts rep; their engineering & math programs are solid.
Otherwise, they graduated quite a while ago, and it's not exactly a large sample size, but my black female IT bosses came from NCA&T and Hampton University, respectively, and both were very good at their jobs.
Anonymous
10/29/2021 21:40
Subject: Possible to find diversity and racial breakdown/ranking for different comp sci programs?
Dartmouth has a strong reputation for women engineers.