Anonymous
10/26/2021 09:33
Subject: Re:Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mazel Tov!
Apparently he announced he was going to study Law in NY a few months after getting engaged and they haven’t seen each other in three years.
Three years is incredible. That their love was that strong. She fought for him and that marriage while surrounded night-and-day by courtiers who would have done anything to stop it.
She would be the ninth Japanese princess to be married to a “commoner”. Her own mother was a commoner. In Japan it was expected she would lead a private life as many of her predecessors have.
No one stopped her marriage but it seems her fiancée was reviled. I hope she has the happiest of endings and enjoys her privacy in NY.
The abuse is because he’s a poor guy.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 09:31
Subject: Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Most of the uproar is because this young man is from a regular family. Michiko and Masako were also technically commoners but they were from very wealthy families.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 09:25
Subject: Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
It’s disgraceful that her own parents didn’t step up for her.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:53
Subject: Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Anonymous wrote:Poor thing. If the marriage does not work, she will be all alone
She seemed all alone before. Emotionally cold families are a horrible type of loneliness.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:49
Subject: Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Anonymous wrote:Could someone explain. There’s the Japanese royal family but then is there a whole level of aristocracy from whom they normally choose their mates?
Yes, the noble families of Japan. They don't carry titles anymore post-WWII but the bloodlines are still there. If not the nobles, then the extremely wealthy like the man Princess Ayako married in 2018.
She kept her dowry and all the wedding traditional accroutrements.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:39
Subject: Re:Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mazel Tov!
Apparently he announced he was going to study Law in NY a few months after getting engaged and they haven’t seen each other in three years.
Three years is incredible. That their love was that strong. She fought for him and that marriage while surrounded night-and-day by courtiers who would have done anything to stop it.
She would be the ninth Japanese princess to be married to a “commoner”. Her own mother was a commoner. In Japan it was expected she would lead a private life as many of her predecessors have.
No one stopped her marriage but it seems her fiancée was reviled. I hope she has the happiest of endings and enjoys her privacy in NY.
The Imperial Household didn't want her mother marrying into the family either.Fortunately or unfortunately as a woman Mako is automatically ex-communicated upon marriage, so it was going to happen regardless.
I do wonder if they'll let 26-year-old Kako marry anytime soon though or if she even has a suitor she desires.
I doubt they disapproved? They announced her engagement and it was all happy news until it went south. Hopefully her sister also has a career like Mako and gets outta there. That might convince them to loosen their succession laws.
Yes, they (or rather her father) disapproved. The only reason she was even allowed to marry (after being engaged for three years) is because the Emperor (her father's brother) interceded and offered his support.
Her father hung her out to dry. He's never even been pictured with Kei. Which is fine. As long as he's got his heir he's happy but I hope Hisahito and Kako continue to be happy within the household.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:39
Subject: Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Could someone explain. There’s the Japanese royal family but then is there a whole level of aristocracy from whom they normally choose their mates?
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:35
Subject: Re:Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mazel Tov!
Apparently he announced he was going to study Law in NY a few months after getting engaged and they haven’t seen each other in three years.
Three years is incredible. That their love was that strong. She fought for him and that marriage while surrounded night-and-day by courtiers who would have done anything to stop it.
I hope so, but he did skedaddle out of there leaving her all alone to shoulder the nasty press.
He went to get a law degree in NY, become barred (results of his bar exam live in December 2021), and get a job at a top NYC law firm. To provide for her and his mother who couldn't work anymore under the scrutiny.
Long-term he'll make 3x the income as a partner in a New York firm as he would had he stayed in Japan and eventually they might return to Tokyo has his ability to practice in two countries is pretty valuable stuff on the job market.
Good for him but why not take her with him? They were engaged and the press was really nasty I am told.
Take her with him? LOL
He's not even allowed to live with or stay in the same housing with her in Japan. She's a royal. Descended from a goddess. They don't play that - it's not like the British royals sleeping with whoever and having affairs out the wazoo.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:34
Subject: Re:Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mazel Tov!
Apparently he announced he was going to study Law in NY a few months after getting engaged and they haven’t seen each other in three years.
Three years is incredible. That their love was that strong. She fought for him and that marriage while surrounded night-and-day by courtiers who would have done anything to stop it.
I hope so, but he did skedaddle out of there leaving her all alone to shoulder the nasty press.
He went to get a law degree in NY, become barred (results of his bar exam live in December 2021), and get a job at a top NYC law firm. To provide for her and his mother who couldn't work anymore under the scrutiny.
Long-term he'll make 3x the income as a partner in a New York firm as he would had he stayed in Japan and eventually they might return to Tokyo has his ability to practice in two countries is pretty valuable stuff on the job market.
Good for him but why not take her with him? They were engaged and the press was really nasty I am told.
Because the press would be even nastier if she had to support him during law school, and it was probably not financial tenable anyway. I also think that while she was still a princess there could be a lot of interference from both the Chrysanthemum throne/courtiers and the press. Now, it is a clean break.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:31
Subject: Re:Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mazel Tov!
Apparently he announced he was going to study Law in NY a few months after getting engaged and they haven’t seen each other in three years.
Three years is incredible. That their love was that strong. She fought for him and that marriage while surrounded night-and-day by courtiers who would have done anything to stop it.
I hope so, but he did skedaddle out of there leaving her all alone to shoulder the nasty press.
He went to get a law degree in NY, become barred (results of his bar exam live in December 2021), and get a job at a top NYC law firm. To provide for her and his mother who couldn't work anymore under the scrutiny.
Long-term he'll make 3x the income as a partner in a New York firm as he would had he stayed in Japan and eventually they might return to Tokyo has his ability to practice in two countries is pretty valuable stuff on the job market.
Good for him but why not take her with him? They were engaged and the press was really nasty I am told.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:30
Subject: Re:Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mazel Tov!
Apparently he announced he was going to study Law in NY a few months after getting engaged and they haven’t seen each other in three years.
Three years is incredible. That their love was that strong. She fought for him and that marriage while surrounded night-and-day by courtiers who would have done anything to stop it.
She would be the ninth Japanese princess to be married to a “commoner”. Her own mother was a commoner. In Japan it was expected she would lead a private life as many of her predecessors have.
No one stopped her marriage but it seems her fiancée was reviled. I hope she has the happiest of endings and enjoys her privacy in NY.
The Imperial Household didn't want her mother marrying into the family either.
I do wonder if they'll let 26-year-old Kako marry anytime soon though or if she even has a suitor she desires.
I doubt they disapproved? They announced her engagement and it was all happy news until it went south. Hopefully her sister also has a career like Mako and gets outta there. That might convince them to loosen their succession laws.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:29
Subject: Re:Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
He took the bar in July I think. Results by the 10th of November. Considering he won a prize from the NY State Bar - he's practically guaranteed to have passed.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:27
Subject: Re:Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mazel Tov!
Apparently he announced he was going to study Law in NY a few months after getting engaged and they haven’t seen each other in three years.
Three years is incredible. That their love was that strong. She fought for him and that marriage while surrounded night-and-day by courtiers who would have done anything to stop it.
I hope so, but he did skedaddle out of there leaving her all alone to shoulder the nasty press.
He went to get a law degree in NY, become barred (results of his bar exam live in December 2021), and get a job at a top NYC law firm. To provide for her and his mother who couldn't work anymore under the scrutiny.
Long-term he'll make 3x the income as a partner in a New York firm as he would had he stayed in Japan and eventually they might return to Tokyo has his ability to practice in two countries is pretty valuable stuff on the job market.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:25
Subject: Re:Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Wow, what a reason to hate somebody.
Explaining why Kei is so unpopular in Japan:
“Part of it is that Mr. Komuro was not very submissive to Japanese values because he went to international school, is a fluent English speaker and quit a Japanese bank,” said Kumiko Nemoto, a professor of sociology at Kyoto University of Foreign Studies.
“In Japanese society, people like to see that people are sacrificing part of themselves to society and the group and family,” Ms. Nemoto added.
Mr. Komuro, she said, is more “individualistic, trying to prove himself by accomplishing something professionally.”
Explaining why Kei is so unpopular in Japan:
“Part of it is that Mr. Komuro was not very submissive to Japanese values because he went to international school, is a fluent English speaker and quit a Japanese bank,” said Kumiko Nemoto, a professor of sociology at Kyoto University of Foreign Studies.
“In Japanese society, people like to see that people are sacrificing part of themselves to society and the group and family,” Ms. Nemoto added.
Mr. Komuro, she said, is more “individualistic, trying to prove himself by accomplishing something professionally.”
Anonymous
10/26/2021 08:23
Subject: Re:Wedding bells for Princess Mako of Japan and Kei Komuro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mazel Tov!
Apparently he announced he was going to study Law in NY a few months after getting engaged and they haven’t seen each other in three years.
Three years is incredible. That their love was that strong. She fought for him and that marriage while surrounded night-and-day by courtiers who would have done anything to stop it.
I hope so, but he did skedaddle out of there leaving her all alone to shoulder the nasty press.