Anonymous
10/26/2021 05:57
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Anonymous wrote:Clubs don’t have refs. Leagues do. Having said that I’d ref any game anywhere. I am confident in my ability to keep thing calm and to handle adults and to make mostly right calls. No one is perfect but this is not that hard. No ones stock price is going to plummet or bonuses be lost or massive layoffs, etc. It’s a kids game. Having said that I like coaching better than reffing as I like to teach more than to govern.
Leagues don’t have refs either. Refs are independent contractors essentially. They can work for any league (at least at the youth level) for any club. They just need to request the game from the assignor responsible for find s referee to cover that match.
Anonymous
10/25/2021 21:10
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
RantingSoccerDad wrote:Oh -- and to answer the question, Vienna's House league is generally pretty good. Laid-back for the most part. Little wonder they fill up about 99% of their available reffing slots. Sorry about your canceled travel games.
This makes me glad to hear as the parent of a VYS House player who says he wants to ref in a few years.
Anonymous
10/25/2021 21:01
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Piggybacking off the previous thread on reffing. Are there certain clubs you refuse to ref for? Or clubs that notoriously have the most awful or the most polite parents? With refs being so in need right now, i would assume you can afford to be picky with which games you sign up for.
Don't really want to ref. for any of them lately. There always seems to be at least that one "type A" Dad or sometimes Mom that just screams about any and every call that goes against them. Funny they seem to agree with every call that goes their way though. 100% correct when called for them, 0% correct when against them. Funny how that works. They never stop to think - why is it I scream at every game? And why do they never sign up so they can show everyone how to be a perfect ref? Usually because they are all too overweight to take 3 steps without gasping for air. Solution to all their problems is to shut their mouths, but they don't see it.
Refs are far more out of shape than the parents in my area.
Yeah, I shouldn't be reffing U-19 games. I'm 51 with a bad Achilles. But someone has to do it.
Though it helps when the teams are just playing direct so I can just stay within 15 yards of the center line and watch the ball ping back and forth over my head. Also, doing an older kids' games with ARs is easier than doing U-11 or U-12 solo.
This isn't all about you. Go away.
Inappropriate parent behavior exhibit A.
In a post directed to refs, I think a lot of us would like to hear what the ref has to say.
Anonymous
10/25/2021 18:55
Subject: Re:Which clubs would you want to ref for?
I think a solution might be raise the referee pay actually double it. As much people are willing to pay for travel soccer each year if you add on another 100-300 per kid and use that money for high quality referees. might cut down on harassment. But as I type this I remember that referees at all levels take criticism. Fan is short fanatic so based of that definition no matter the age or level it is crazed behavior is always a possibility .
Anonymous
10/25/2021 18:48
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Clubs don’t have refs. Leagues do. Having said that I’d ref any game anywhere. I am confident in my ability to keep thing calm and to handle adults and to make mostly right calls. No one is perfect but this is not that hard. No ones stock price is going to plummet or bonuses be lost or massive layoffs, etc. It’s a kids game. Having said that I like coaching better than reffing as I like to teach more than to govern.
Anonymous
10/25/2021 18:32
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Piggybacking off the previous thread on reffing. Are there certain clubs you refuse to ref for? Or clubs that notoriously have the most awful or the most polite parents? With refs being so in need right now, i would assume you can afford to be picky with which games you sign up for.
Don't really want to ref. for any of them lately. There always seems to be at least that one "type A" Dad or sometimes Mom that just screams about any and every call that goes against them. Funny they seem to agree with every call that goes their way though. 100% correct when called for them, 0% correct when against them. Funny how that works. They never stop to think - why is it I scream at every game? And why do they never sign up so they can show everyone how to be a perfect ref? Usually because they are all too overweight to take 3 steps without gasping for air. Solution to all their problems is to shut their mouths, but they don't see it.
Refs are far more out of shape than the parents in my area.
Yeah, I shouldn't be reffing U-19 games. I'm 51 with a bad Achilles. But someone has to do it.
Though it helps when the teams are just playing direct so I can just stay within 15 yards of the center line and watch the ball ping back and forth over my head. Also, doing an older kids' games with ARs is easier than doing U-11 or U-12 solo.
This isn't all about you. Go away.
Anonymous
10/25/2021 18:07
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Piggybacking off the previous thread on reffing. Are there certain clubs you refuse to ref for? Or clubs that notoriously have the most awful or the most polite parents? With refs being so in need right now, i would assume you can afford to be picky with which games you sign up for.
Don't really want to ref. for any of them lately. There always seems to be at least that one "type A" Dad or sometimes Mom that just screams about any and every call that goes against them. Funny they seem to agree with every call that goes their way though. 100% correct when called for them, 0% correct when against them. Funny how that works. They never stop to think - why is it I scream at every game? And why do they never sign up so they can show everyone how to be a perfect ref? Usually because they are all too overweight to take 3 steps without gasping for air. Solution to all their problems is to shut their mouths, but they don't see it.
Refs are far more out of shape than the parents in my area.
Anonymous
10/25/2021 17:40
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Anonymous wrote:Piggybacking off the previous thread on reffing. Are there certain clubs you refuse to ref for? Or clubs that notoriously have the most awful or the most polite parents? With refs being so in need right now, i would assume you can afford to be picky with which games you sign up for.
Don't really want to ref. for any of them lately. There always seems to be at least that one "type A" Dad or sometimes Mom that just screams about any and every call that goes against them. Funny they seem to agree with every call that goes their way though. 100% correct when called for them, 0% correct when against them. Funny how that works. They never stop to think - why is it I scream at every game? And why do they never sign up so they can show everyone how to be a perfect ref? Usually because they are all too overweight to take 3 steps without gasping for air. Solution to all their problems is to shut their mouths, but they don't see it.
Anonymous
10/25/2021 17:24
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parents may change their behavior if:
-their own kid is reffing or all parents are required to ref
-coaches start being carded for parents' behavior
-parents are banned from fields
It's not the parents that need to change their behavior, it's the refs. And it's only by parents providing direct feedback that this will happen.
You're insane. You think being a human being and getting a close call wrong is 'behavior'?
Anonymous
10/25/2021 15:05
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great Falls and PWSI games cancelled this weekend too-ref issues to blame.
Do these teams have obnoxious parents?
Coaches too for Great Falls.
So is it fair to assume that there were no refs for these games bc the parents and coaches are awful and many refs have them on their black list? Were the teams given any reason for why a ref could not be secured?
Anonymous
10/25/2021 12:54
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great Falls and PWSI games cancelled this weekend too-ref issues to blame.
Do these teams have obnoxious parents?
Coaches too for Great Falls.
Anonymous
10/25/2021 12:52
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Anonymous wrote:Great Falls and PWSI games cancelled this weekend too-ref issues to blame.
Do these teams have obnoxious parents?
Anonymous
10/25/2021 12:26
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Great Falls and PWSI games cancelled this weekend too-ref issues to blame.
Anonymous
10/25/2021 12:12
Subject: Re:Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We had a game cancelled this weekend. It never occurred to me that refs did not want to ref because of what team we were playing.
what makes you assume it wasn't your club they were avoiding?
LOL!
Anonymous
10/25/2021 12:07
Subject: Which clubs would you want to ref for?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parents may change their behavior if:
-their own kid is reffing or all parents are required to ref
-coaches start being carded for parents' behavior
-parents are banned from fields
It's not the parents that need to change their behavior, it's the refs. And it's only by parents providing direct feedback that this will happen.
Ohhhh, makes sense
Direct feedback = yelling "thats a yellow card" when you have no idea what you are talking about
or
verbally challenging offsides call from the far opposite end of the field when you could not even explain exactly the terms that define offside
you see its people like you that are the problem at every game
Cheer your kid on. stop making it out like its world cup, enjoy your day
bad calls happen to both sides