Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 18:14     Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s regional. And it sounds fine to my Chicago ears!


None of my Chicago family say this. We are half north siders and half south siders. There are plenty of Chicago regionalisms but this is not one of them. If you want to talk about the "frunch room" or dese, dem, and dose, then that's another thing.


What is frunch?

D instead of th is European.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 18:06     Subject: “They need cleaned up”
This one seriously drives me insane and I keep wanting to correct it every time.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 17:56     Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:I know someone from South Carolina who says this. Also “we might could..” instead of “maybe we could” I like it!


Of all the regional poor grammar, "might could" is kind of useful. One syllable instead of 4 in "be able to".
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 17:55     Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:I don't mind slang and regional speak, but I don't like this phrasing, because I get confused at what's being said. Past tense, present tense? I wouldn't know what to think.
That seems dramatic. Easy enough to figure out what people are talking about in context. If they hand you a dirty dish and say “This needs cleaned,” you’re just being stubborn if you can’t figure that out. Now that being said, it also grates on my nerves, but I hold my tongue.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 17:44     Subject: “They need cleaned up”
And yet, you are OK with "cleaned up." Up to where?
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 17:40     Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My husband from the Midwest sometimes says things like this, and it really grates. “The washer needs fixed.” Ugh.


Please do not blame the midwest. My mother was an English Professor in the "dreaded midwest" + would have cringed at this. I am guessing it is a class thing.


Ok? It is super common in the Midwest. My English teachers spoke this way. And it is not the dreaded Midwest. DH and I are both from there.


I'm in the Midwest (raised here.) I haven't heard this before. Is it more rural?
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 17:39     Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My husband from the Midwest sometimes says things like this, and it really grates. “The washer needs fixed.” Ugh.


Please do not blame the midwest. My mother was an English Professor in the "dreaded midwest" + would have cringed at this. I am guessing it is a class thing.


Uh yeah genius, regional accents and usages are class-based. That is known.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 17:38     Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
I don't mind slang and regional speak, but I don't like this phrasing, because I get confused at what's being said. Past tense, present tense? I wouldn't know what to think.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 17:35     Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know someone from South Carolina who says this. Also “we might could..” instead of “maybe we could” I like it!


Might could is Irish, many of which ways of speaking are retained in parts of the US


What? Source pls. I have Irish relatives and have been there multiple times and haven't ever heard any Irish person saying that. I am from the rural Southern US and have heard it there quite a bit.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 17:31     Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My husband from the Midwest sometimes says things like this, and it really grates. “The washer needs fixed.” Ugh.


Please do not blame the midwest. My mother was an English Professor in the "dreaded midwest" + would have cringed at this. I am guessing it is a class thing.


Ok? It is super common in the Midwest. My English teachers spoke this way. And it is not the dreaded Midwest. DH and I are both from there.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 17:09     Subject: “They need cleaned up”
I saw this on a Facebook ad for a store called "At Home.'" The text said something about furniture and said a piece "needs assembled." Yikes.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 17:06     Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s regional. And it sounds fine to my Chicago ears!


None of my Chicago family say this. We are half north siders and half south siders. There are plenty of Chicago regionalisms but this is not one of them. If you want to talk about the "frunch room" or dese, dem, and dose, then that's another thing.

I grew up in Wisconsin (Milwaukee) and people there don't really say "they need cleaned up", either. Yes on dese, der, dem, and dose. Also, I'm "goin'" to the store "real quick,", hopefully the "stop n' go lights" don't hold me up for too long. Or no?

Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 16:58     Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
At the hospital I work at (Carroll county) all my coworkers say “they need tested” when talking about covid testing. Drives me bonkers.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 16:52     Subject: “They need cleaned up”
We use "they need cleaning up"-- might be a regional old school dc born and raised thing
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 16:45     Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:I have never heard this? It seems literally wrong.
I am surprised that elementary schools don't catch/correct this.

Member of this younger generation though, all seem to say, "I needa (insert verb here), instead of "I need to"

I first heard it on college tours, which shocked me. So many of the student-guides spoke this way. Now I have even heard TV pundits do it. Any insights???



The teachers also speak this way.