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Anonymous wrote:Would you rather go to Delaware State University to play D1 soccer or Johns Hopkins to play D3 soccer

To me there is nothing remotely attractive about going to Hopkins.

I'd do Delaware and then go to a better grad school.

My spouse is a Hopkins grad. My nephew is in grad school at Hopkins and my niece is doing medical residency there.

The academics are some of the best in the world.

Delaware--are you shitting me? A degree from Hopkins is worth so much more.

Like Yale, everyone is in the library though and it is very grueling academically. So--yeah--if you want to just party and play soccer, stay away from Hopkins.

My brother turned down a full-ride to American, G-town and a few others to follow a Coach he liked to some small D1 school in the Midwest--many have never heard of. My dad was pretty pissed but knew my academically challenged brother would not go to college if he didn't get to choose where. His first semester he roomed with 3 Wrestlers and the GPA average for the 4 of them was a 1.8. My brother never even picked up his books--which were paid for!!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what the draw is for soccer players to play D1 when the school itself may not be all that challenging for them. I could see doing that for football, because that sport has more potential money if you have the skills.

What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?

Depending upon the kid's situation, most likely to help offset the cost of college. Maybe the kid is good enough to play D1 and maybe at a top school, but the top school isn't providing a full ride or enough of a subsidy. And on the flip side maybe the smaller school is offering a full ride. Or maybe the kid just barely is able to play D1, then this is their best shot at having college subsidized. It all depends on the kid's situation.

Bingo.

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Anonymous wrote:The ironic thing is that youth soccer is so costly now that lots of well off kids are playing that probably can go wherever they want in terms of cost. In those cases, I have no clue why they choose to go to less competitive schools.

A top recruit can get a 50 and below athletic scholarship at a very competitive program or a full ride at a less competitive program.

If money matters, the less competent program is the much better deal.

Student debt is the number one debt in this country. The average cost for a degree is around 100,000 and above.

The poster was talking about the kids where money does not matter. Youth sports are full of affluent kids. Soccer has tons of wealthy players and it is not even the worst offender in term of sucking the max dollars possible out of families.

Why do these well off families send students to these low level academic schools just to play soccer?

Your reading comprehension needs improving.

1. You’re not well off because you can afford travel soccer.

But more importantly, who said parents were sending their kid to low level schools to play soccer?

There are many well off families involved with deluxe youth soccer. Just pull in the parking lot of 90 percent of the games in our conference and try not to park next to some expensive late model hulking imported SUV. Good luck.

My favorite is my 9 year old gawking at butterfly doors on the tesla at our practice, or looking at the private black car SUV with driver waiting to pick up a kid from practice.

But your at the same club as them….so….

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Anonymous wrote:The ironic thing is that youth soccer is so costly now that lots of well off kids are playing that probably can go wherever they want in terms of cost. In those cases, I have no clue why they choose to go to less competitive schools.

A top recruit can get a 50 and below athletic scholarship at a very competitive program or a full ride at a less competitive program.

If money matters, the less competent program is the much better deal.

Student debt is the number one debt in this country. The average cost for a degree is around 100,000 and above.

The poster was talking about the kids where money does not matter. Youth sports are full of affluent kids. Soccer has tons of wealthy players and it is not even the worst offender in term of sucking the max dollars possible out of families.

Why do these well off families send students to these low level academic schools just to play soccer?

Your reading comprehension needs improving.

1. You’re not well off because you can afford travel soccer.

But more importantly, who said parents were sending their kid to low level schools to play soccer?

There are many well off families involved with deluxe youth soccer. Just pull in the parking lot of 90 percent of the games in our conference and try not to park next to some expensive late model hulking imported SUV. Good luck.

My favorite is my 9 year old gawking at butterfly doors on the tesla at our practice, or looking at the private black car SUV with driver waiting to pick up a kid from practice.

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what the draw is for soccer players to play D1 when the school itself may not be all that challenging for them. I could see doing that for football, because that sport has more potential money if you have the skills.

What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?

Depending upon the kid's situation, most likely to help offset the cost of college. Maybe the kid is good enough to play D1 and maybe at a top school, but the top school isn't providing a full ride or enough of a subsidy. And on the flip side maybe the smaller school is offering a full ride. Or maybe the kid just barely is able to play D1, then this is their best shot at having college subsidized. It all depends on the kid's situation.

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what the draw is for soccer players to play D1 when the school itself may not be all that challenging for them. I could see doing that for football, because that sport has more potential money if you have the skills.

What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?

Many families need assistance with school and soccer can provide that, Karen.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you rather go to Delaware State University to play D1 soccer or Johns Hopkins to play D3 soccer

To me there is nothing remotely attractive about going to Hopkins.

I'd do Delaware and then go to a better grad school.

IMO the education at Hopkins would be superior and should offer a better chance at competing to get into a higher quality med school. Mine wants to produce that and that is not an uncommon career goal.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you rather go to Delaware State University to play D1 soccer or Johns Hopkins to play D3 soccer

To me there is nothing remotely attractive about going to Hopkins.

I'd do Delaware and then go to a better grad school.

P.S. if you said Amherst or Tufts my answer would have been different.

Kind of depends on the major too. If the kid even knows when they graduate HS.

A prior poster talked about how people hire. Hiring managers rarely care which school, as long as a degree was earned. They care about the degree, the experience, and the individual’s ability to interview well (I.e. be a fit for the need on both hard and soft skills and the general culture). The worst thing a young person can do is never work before they graduate college. This shows a complete lack of drive, no concept of what it means to earn a day’s pay, and no concept of having responsibility to others. I might hire an intern with this type of background, but not a paid employee. So regardless of the school they pick, make sure they get some summer job or part time during the school year work experience under their belt.

My DS is being looked at by several colleges. Our decision will be the degree he wants and the level of play. We will try to list the pros and cons and make an educated decision. Factors will include Location, scholarships, level of play, and if the school is esteemed in the business world.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you rather go to Delaware State University to play D1 soccer or Johns Hopkins to play D3 soccer

To me the answer is obviously hopkins but I discovered this is the completely outlier view. We had 5 players on our ecnl team looking to go high academic D3 and from what I have discovered, that is unusually high. The coach did not even seem to understand or support it. I was quite surprised to discover this.

Enjoy overpaying. It’s not needed nor worth it.

This isn’t the 80s or 90s. College is not remotely affordable. The majority of the cost goes into facilities and landscaping to make the campus look beautiful which in turns attracts more people. It’s a business to attract money. Unfortunately, education has become secondary.

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Anonymous wrote:The ironic thing is that youth soccer is so costly now that lots of well off kids are playing that probably can go wherever they want in terms of cost. In those cases, I have no clue why they choose to go to less competitive schools.

A top recruit can get a 50 and below athletic scholarship at a very competitive program or a full ride at a less competitive program.

If money matters, the less competent program is the much better deal.

Student debt is the number one debt in this country. The average cost for a degree is around 100,000 and above.

The poster was talking about the kids where money does not matter. Youth sports are full of affluent kids. Soccer has tons of wealthy players and it is not even the worst offender in term of sucking the max dollars possible out of families.

Why do these well off families send students to these low level academic schools just to play soccer?

Your reading comprehension needs improving.

1. You’re not well off because you can afford travel soccer.

But more importantly, who said parents were sending their kid to low level schools to play soccer?

There are many well off families involved with deluxe youth soccer. Just pull in the parking lot of 90 percent of the games in our conference and try not to park next to some expensive late model hulking imported SUV. Good luck.

Unless you know their finances, you’re making assumptions. And I can assure one thing….never make an assumption based on someone’s car. A lot of people are irresponsible….my car is a piece of sh@t but I’m far from broke. I prioritize holding money not spending money.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you rather go to Delaware State University to play D1 soccer or Johns Hopkins to play D3 soccer

To me there is nothing remotely attractive about going to Hopkins.

I'd do Delaware and then go to a better grad school.

P.S. if you said Amherst or Tufts my answer would have been different.

Anonymous wrote:Would you rather go to Delaware State University to play D1 soccer or Johns Hopkins to play D3 soccer

To me there is nothing remotely attractive about going to Hopkins.

I'd do Delaware and then go to a better grad school.

Anonymous wrote:Would you rather go to Delaware State University to play D1 soccer or Johns Hopkins to play D3 soccer

To me the answer is obviously hopkins but I discovered this is the completely outlier view. We had 5 players on our ecnl team looking to go high academic D3 and from what I have discovered, that is unusually high. The coach did not even seem to understand or support it. I was quite surprised to discover this.

Would you rather go to Delaware State University to play D1 soccer or Johns Hopkins to play D3 soccer