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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

There were ECNL players playing - easily confirmed not only by patches on jerseys but also via rosters on ECNL site that includes pictures and jersey numbers. Not to mention kids on Barca team have friends on Arlington red team.

I don’t think it’s cheating like PP, just not sure why they felt it was necessary to bring down ECNL players.

The patches on the jerseys don't prove anything. You only get patches in the ECNL post season so these would have been awarded last year. And the 03/04 team combines two years' worth of players into a single team, so inevitably some of last year's U17 academy team end up on this year's U19 second team still wearing the same shorts.

I continue to think this is highly unlikely to have happened. Why would Arlington do this?
- It's pretty clear that they would have won the game easily without playing any ringers.
- In many years of my DS playing at Arlington I never saw anything like this.
- It likely would upset the regular red team players and parents, who are paying customers.

On the other hand, there are many reasons why posters would make up lies on this board.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

And in fact looks like the second possibility is exactly what happened. The red team had two games that day only three hours apart.

OH WOW... Which league was the other game if the "red" team was playing state cup? Not seeing a 10/16 game listed in ECNL-R (ECNL-R had a game today 10/17) and they don't have a u-19 "red" team in EDP, CCL or NCSL. Anywho they're badass and loaded.

Sorry - yes you are correct - I got confused with the days. In which case I'm going back to very much doubting this happened at all.

With the VYSA State Cup, the roster freezes at the start of the competition, so it’s not possible to send another team in its place in the event of a schedule conflict. Teams are locked in (22 players)....so Arlington probably selected a mix of ECNL and Red.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

And in fact looks like the second possibility is exactly what happened. The red team had two games that day only three hours apart.

Talent is DEEEEEEP at Arlington and not so much at BArka apparently.

Will be interesting to see which club produces more pros out of the '03 age group... One of these clubs already has a couple feet forward in that regard.

Not many future pros are playing u19 soccer for an ECNL team.

Does anyone know of any 2003’s in ECNL clubs that are getting looks overseas? I know of 2 local clubs that have already sent kids to Europe from that age group- neither are ECNL clubs

Which 2 players

Clubs???? PP was saying clubs.

I've been on here and mentioned it before - Elite Talent Academy out of Fairfax has ties to several clubs in Europe and recently successfully placed multiple players to play for a pro club there. Not sure if that's what's being mentioned- but certainly not an ECNL or even "top tier" club in the area.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

And in fact looks like the second possibility is exactly what happened. The red team had two games that day only three hours apart.

Talent is DEEEEEEP at Arlington and not so much at BArka apparently.

Will be interesting to see which club produces more pros out of the '03 age group... One of these clubs already has a couple feet forward in that regard.

Not many future pros are playing u19 soccer for an ECNL team.

Does anyone know of any 2003’s in ECNL clubs that are getting looks overseas? I know of 2 local clubs that have already sent kids to Europe from that age group- neither are ECNL clubs

Which 2 players

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

And in fact looks like the second possibility is exactly what happened. The red team had two games that day only three hours apart.

Talent is DEEEEEEP at Arlington and not so much at BArka apparently.

Will be interesting to see which club produces more pros out of the '03 age group... One of these clubs already has a couple feet forward in that regard.

Not many future pros are playing u19 soccer for an ECNL team.

Does anyone know of any 2003’s in ECNL clubs that are getting looks overseas? I know of 2 local clubs that have already sent kids to Europe from that age group- neither are ECNL clubs

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

Arlington does it all the time, I have 2 kids at ASA and it happens.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

And in fact looks like the second possibility is exactly what happened. The red team had two games that day only three hours apart.

OH WOW... Which league was the other game if the "red" team was playing state cup? Not seeing a 10/16 game listed in ECNL-R (ECNL-R had a game today 10/17) and they don't have a u-19 "red" team in EDP, CCL or NCSL. Anywho they're badass and loaded.

Sorry - yes you are correct - I got confused with the days. In which case I'm going back to very much doubting this happened at all.

Back-to-back champion of the B tournament.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

And in fact looks like the second possibility is exactly what happened. The red team had two games that day only three hours apart.

OH WOW... Which league was the other game if the "red" team was playing state cup? Not seeing a 10/16 game listed in ECNL-R (ECNL-R had a game today 10/17) and they don't have a u-19 "red" team in EDP, CCL or NCSL. Anywho they're badass and loaded.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

And in fact looks like the second possibility is exactly what happened. The red team had two games that day only three hours apart.

Talent is DEEEEEEP at Arlington and not so much at BArka apparently.

Will be interesting to see which club produces more pros out of the '03 age group... One of these clubs already has a couple feet forward in that regard.

Not many future pros are playing u19 soccer for an ECNL team.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

And in fact looks like the second possibility is exactly what happened. The red team had two games that day only three hours apart.

Talent is DEEEEEEP at Arlington and not so much at BArka apparently.

Will be interesting to see which club produces more pros out of the '03 age group... One of these clubs already has a couple feet forward in that regard.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

And in fact looks like the second possibility is exactly what happened. The red team had two games that day only three hours apart.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

There were ECNL players playing - easily confirmed not only by patches on jerseys but also via rosters on ECNL site that includes pictures and jersey numbers. Not to mention kids on Barca team have friends on Arlington red team.

I don’t think it’s cheating like PP, just not sure why they felt it was necessary to bring down ECNL players.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

I wasn't there, but I'm skeptical of the claim in the first place. My DS played for Arlington for several years and not once, as far as I am aware, did an academy rostered kid play on the red team. There was some talk at one point of the academy kids playing on the red team if they didn't make the academy roster one weekend due to too many kids - but I never saw it actually happen.

So the only way I could see this occurring is if the red team had an ECNL-R game scheduled at a very similar time and both opponents didn't want to reschedule. In which case I think fair is fair.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington Red CRUSHED Barca with mostly ECNL players in VYSA state cup yesterday. ECNL patches on most but not all of the players. They are good! I would be kinda bummed if I was rostered on the red team and got displaced so the club could smack down a mediocre local club.

Cheaters! the harm is done to players from red team and just for a medal that worths nothing. Also there is a difference between how Academy pools work vs what Arlington and other clubs with no academy format do. Academy teams share the cost of the tournaments so every player team A and team B pay the fee. This means that player from A or B have the right to ply in tourney. While those clubs that don’t have the academy format are misleading the cost to their players from team B when they have guest players from team A.

You sound bitter.