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Anonymous wrote:It’s a nothingburger now that most are push in.

What does this mean?

It means that pp is bent out of shape that a production isn’t made now of pulling her children out of class for enrichment. Teachers just hand out slightly more challenging work.

Let me tell you as someone who’s graduated two kids from APS that your anxiety over gifted services in ES is meaningless. The kids all get there in the end.

A Production? Who exactly is bent out of shape here?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a nothingburger now that most are push in.

What does this mean?

It means that pp is bent out of shape that a production isn’t made now of pulling her children out of class for enrichment. Teachers just hand out slightly more challenging work.

Let me tell you as someone who’s graduated two kids from APS that your anxiety over gifted services in ES is meaningless. The kids all get there in the end.

Anonymous wrote:I thought kids were normally not placed before 2nd grade but our kids school said there is a cohort in one class in 1st grade this year - not sure how kids would have even been identified in K last year given the way the year went…

Yes, you are correct. It takes place in 2nd grade. You have a few stay at home moms that come in and nag the teachers in K and 1 about how gifted Larlo is and get the "identified" and grandfathered in early.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was a kid in a gifted program, we got pulled out for a full day each week to a totally separate class throughout ES and MS. It was really good academically but a bit difficult socially. I supposed there was a backlash against that model which got us where we are now.

That was the model I grew up with, too. We were bussed to a different location for the day with kids from other district schools, which did waste a lot of time. By middle school, I remember teachers being annoyed that a certain percentage of kids missed 1 day a week, so tests and field trips and other in-class stuff needed to be scheduled around that. I have fond memories of the program, but I wouldn’t want that for my kid.

When I was growing up, all the extra gifted services we got in elementary school was in after school programs. Very little of it was academic focused as far as I remember, the closest was the Voyage of the Mimi videos we had to watch, haha.

Voyage of the Mimi...thank you, I needed that today. Good times.

Anonymous wrote:I believe kids are loosely identified by their teachers (or parents...) early on, but aren't officially assessed for gifted services until 2nd grade. My kid qualified last year in 2nd, but I haven't seen/heard anything yet for 3rd. Always possible that they are getting something extra, but I'm just not aware of it.

Mine was loosely identified in K and 1st and the GRT met with that group a few times a week to do math and reading since many kids were learning letter sounds and the basics of number. I don't think she's been formally accessed yet and is in 3rd.

My kid started getting math differentiation in K, started meeting with the gifted teacher in second grade, formally identified at the end of third grade. In second and third he was given independent study for certain subjects.

I agree the gifted program is a non entity. Move to FFX and try for their AAP

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Anonymous wrote:When I was a kid in a gifted program, we got pulled out for a full day each week to a totally separate class throughout ES and MS. It was really good academically but a bit difficult socially. I supposed there was a backlash against that model which got us where we are now.

That was the model I grew up with, too. We were bussed to a different location for the day with kids from other district schools, which did waste a lot of time. By middle school, I remember teachers being annoyed that a certain percentage of kids missed 1 day a week, so tests and field trips and other in-class stuff needed to be scheduled around that. I have fond memories of the program, but I wouldn’t want that for my kid.

When I was growing up, all the extra gifted services we got in elementary school was in after school programs. Very little of it was academic focused as far as I remember, the closest was the Voyage of the Mimi videos we had to watch, haha.

Anonymous wrote:There is compelling research that shows that pulling gifted kids out for significant time during the school day doesn't help them a ton and can be detrimental to the rest of the class. Standard differentiation in class is basically as good and not detrimental to other kids.

Public school serves the public, and I think that what APS gifted services is doing serves the public more than areas that have crazy intense gifted programs.

Where APS elementary is failing is in their general curriculum. I am so sick of a skills based curriculum. Please, just teach my kids something in school, thanks. (Math was fine though).

Read this carefully.

It says it DOES help the gifted kids (and I know mine benefitted from being in a group of like minded students who were more into school than most kids). And it’s “detrimental” to the kids left behind (how so, class is smaller with their absence, do kids going away for speech therapy hurt those left behind).

In other words they killed gifted pull out because of “equity” again.

Anonymous wrote:When I was a kid in a gifted program, we got pulled out for a full day each week to a totally separate class throughout ES and MS. It was really good academically but a bit difficult socially. I supposed there was a backlash against that model which got us where we are now.

That was the model I grew up with, too. We were bussed to a different location for the day with kids from other district schools, which did waste a lot of time. By middle school, I remember teachers being annoyed that a certain percentage of kids missed 1 day a week, so tests and field trips and other in-class stuff needed to be scheduled around that. I have fond memories of the program, but I wouldn’t want that for my kid.

When I was a kid in a gifted program, we got pulled out for a full day each week to a totally separate class throughout ES and MS. It was really good academically but a bit difficult socially. I supposed there was a backlash against that model which got us where we are now.

There is compelling research that shows that pulling gifted kids out for significant time during the school day doesn't help them a ton and can be detrimental to the rest of the class. Standard differentiation in class is basically as good and not detrimental to other kids.

Public school serves the public, and I think that what APS gifted services is doing serves the public more than areas that have crazy intense gifted programs.

Where APS elementary is failing is in their general curriculum. I am so sick of a skills based curriculum. Please, just teach my kids something in school, thanks. (Math was fine though).

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Anonymous wrote:They’re a total joke. My kid was ID’d in K (no, I didn’t push anything) and the next year got 30 minutes once a week about 3/4 of the time doing puzzles with the “coach.”

What do you want for a 1st grader, exactly?

Not to waste their time, mostly. We switched to a private school and supplement at home for stuff that is actually challenging.

Well, here's some news, school is going to waste a lot of time for kids, gifted or not...private school or not.

I’m very happy with our current school, and with the stuff my kid is doing there and at home! We do not need kids’ menu word searches, thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re a total joke. My kid was ID’d in K (no, I didn’t push anything) and the next year got 30 minutes once a week about 3/4 of the time doing puzzles with the “coach.”

What do you want for a 1st grader, exactly?

Not to waste their time, mostly. We switched to a private school and supplement at home for stuff that is actually challenging.

Well, here's some news, school is going to waste a lot of time for kids, gifted or not...private school or not.

Anonymous wrote:Whiners. Maybe you should homeschool.

I did!