Anonymous
10/05/2021 15:51
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There’s a reason DA folded. US Soccer gave up on it. Completely irrelevant as a national league. The future will not be bright for FCV, which is why their youth teams are not a big draw.
Why does a small girls only club in an irrelevant league still get so much attention in this forum? It's incredibly annoying to those of us not in Loudoun or VA or with boys! Can we make it stop
Because one of the coaches keeps up on this forum.
#ThefutureisFCV
Anonymous
10/05/2021 06:51
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There’s a reason DA folded. US Soccer gave up on it. Completely irrelevant as a national league. The future will not be bright for FCV, which is why their youth teams are not a big draw.
Why does a small girls only club in an irrelevant league still get so much attention in this forum? It's incredibly annoying to those of us not in Loudoun or VA or with boys! Can we make it stop
Because one of the coaches keeps up on this forum.
Anonymous
10/05/2021 00:46
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should FCV try to make a play to get into ECNL, it is clear they have the quality to be in.
Why have the ECNL not extended an offer?
For the 50 times. They have made a play and were turned down. They don’t have the quality unless poaching from neighboring ECNL clubs. They are blocked due to over saturation and proximity to other clubs. They will not get ECNL. They will not get BRYC spot if they lose it. They will just drop the spot all together.
FCV players that are unhappy with GA can move and join any ECNL club. If you are a good player then take the challenge and show your talent. You can go to a club that is crowded and that may make it easy for you to go to playoffs but you may get frustrated with playing time. Or you can join a team and club where you can explode your talent.
I agree with this. I don't see why FCV should want to leave GA where they are at the top of the heap and doing quite well (as measured by college commits which is the measure, right?). As long as they can stay at the top of GA, compete in GA national tournaments, play in the GA champions league, give players good exposure, then this is a better scenario for them than to be just another middling ECNL club in the mid Atlantic.
Arlington we’re a top 15 GA club.
Lower mid pack in the ECNL MA. I bet those players are happy to be challenged every week though.
Players have to be challenged.
The trouble with staying in GA in an area where there are ECNL choices is that in the long run, it will be hard to continue to attract top talent. The club will weaken over time.
FCV is already weak. As stated many times, their boys teams stink as do all their girls non-GA teams. That’s why they can’t get into ECNL. They are a one trick pony. Give it up man.
Anonymous
10/04/2021 23:11
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
GA is dying a very slow death…
Anonymous
10/04/2021 17:52
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There’s a reason DA folded. US Soccer gave up on it. Completely irrelevant as a national league. The future will not be bright for FCV, which is why their youth teams are not a big draw.
Why does a small girls only club in an irrelevant league still get so much attention in this forum? It's incredibly annoying to those of us not in Loudoun or VA or with boys! Can we make it stop
Years of chest-beating, elitism, and sh*t-talking now coming back on FCV.
Anonymous
10/04/2021 17:48
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:There’s a reason DA folded. US Soccer gave up on it. Completely irrelevant as a national league. The future will not be bright for FCV, which is why their youth teams are not a big draw.
Why does a small girls only club in an irrelevant league still get so much attention in this forum? It's incredibly annoying to those of us not in Loudoun or VA or with boys! Can we make it stop
Anonymous
10/04/2021 17:37
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
There’s a reason DA folded. US Soccer gave up on it. Completely irrelevant as a national league. The future will not be bright for FCV, which is why their youth teams are not a big draw.
Anonymous
10/04/2021 17:04
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should FCV try to make a play to get into ECNL, it is clear they have the quality to be in.
Why have the ECNL not extended an offer?
For the 50 times. They have made a play and were turned down. They don’t have the quality unless poaching from neighboring ECNL clubs. They are blocked due to over saturation and proximity to other clubs. They will not get ECNL. They will not get BRYC spot if they lose it. They will just drop the spot all together.
FCV players that are unhappy with GA can move and join any ECNL club. If you are a good player then take the challenge and show your talent. You can go to a club that is crowded and that may make it easy for you to go to playoffs but you may get frustrated with playing time. Or you can join a team and club where you can explode your talent.
I agree with this. I don't see why FCV should want to leave GA where they are at the top of the heap and doing quite well (as measured by college commits which is the measure, right?). As long as they can stay at the top of GA, compete in GA national tournaments, play in the GA champions league, give players good exposure, then this is a better scenario for them than to be just another middling ECNL club in the mid Atlantic.
Arlington we’re a top 15 GA club.
Lower mid pack in the ECNL MA. I bet those players are happy to be challenged every week though.
Players have to be challenged.
The trouble with staying in GA in an area where there are ECNL choices is that in the long run, it will be hard to continue to attract top talent. The club will weaken over time.
That might happen. Or it might not. You state with certainty (“will”) what is only a guess. Truth is the soccer landscape will probably change over the next few years in ways that aren’t obvious now. How different are things now from just 3, 4, 5 years ago? Why should that level of change not occur again over the next 3-5 years?
There is of course what could happen and what is likely to happen.
There is a range of outcomes that are more likely to happen than others. Here is a short list:
1. GA flips ECNL and attracts top ECNL clubs.
2. Top ECNL clubs get sick of ECNL expansion and decide to go back old school and kick off their own league like they did when they created ECNL in the first place. This could draw from top ECNL and GA clubs.
3. GA settles in as a 2nd tier National league that is utilized more for regional college recruiting, specifically catering to regional Mid and low level D1, D2 and D3 programs.
4. ECNL continues to expand, slowly squeezing GA out by picking GA clubs off one by one until the league is nothing more than ECNL-R or CCL equivalent.
5. Both continue as is for a number of years.
Bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Don’t quit your day job.
I think you completely missed the point of the exercise. These are not things that will happen.
On that hand, you’re hired
Anonymous
10/04/2021 16:58
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should FCV try to make a play to get into ECNL, it is clear they have the quality to be in.
Why have the ECNL not extended an offer?
For the 50 times. They have made a play and were turned down. They don’t have the quality unless poaching from neighboring ECNL clubs. They are blocked due to over saturation and proximity to other clubs. They will not get ECNL. They will not get BRYC spot if they lose it. They will just drop the spot all together.
FCV players that are unhappy with GA can move and join any ECNL club. If you are a good player then take the challenge and show your talent. You can go to a club that is crowded and that may make it easy for you to go to playoffs but you may get frustrated with playing time. Or you can join a team and club where you can explode your talent.
I agree with this. I don't see why FCV should want to leave GA where they are at the top of the heap and doing quite well (as measured by college commits which is the measure, right?). As long as they can stay at the top of GA, compete in GA national tournaments, play in the GA champions league, give players good exposure, then this is a better scenario for them than to be just another middling ECNL club in the mid Atlantic.
Arlington we’re a top 15 GA club.
Lower mid pack in the ECNL MA. I bet those players are happy to be challenged every week though.
Players have to be challenged.
The trouble with staying in GA in an area where there are ECNL choices is that in the long run, it will be hard to continue to attract top talent. The club will weaken over time.
That might happen. Or it might not. You state with certainty (“will”) what is only a guess. Truth is the soccer landscape will probably change over the next few years in ways that aren’t obvious now. How different are things now from just 3, 4, 5 years ago? Why should that level of change not occur again over the next 3-5 years?
There is of course what could happen and what is likely to happen.
There is a range of outcomes that are more likely to happen than others. Here is a short list:
1. GA flips ECNL and attracts top ECNL clubs.
2. Top ECNL clubs get sick of ECNL expansion and decide to go back old school and kick off their own league like they did when they created ECNL in the first place. This could draw from top ECNL and GA clubs.
3. GA settles in as a 2nd tier National league that is utilized more for regional college recruiting, specifically catering to regional Mid and low level D1, D2 and D3 programs.
4. ECNL continues to expand, slowly squeezing GA out by picking GA clubs off one by one until the league is nothing more than ECNL-R or CCL equivalent.
5. Both continue as is for a number of years.
Bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Don’t quit your day job.
I think you completely missed the point of the exercise. These are not things that will happen.
Anonymous
10/04/2021 16:54
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
I’m an ECNL parent and honestly, GA is not even talked about. Not sure anyone cares about it.
Anonymous
10/04/2021 16:50
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should FCV try to make a play to get into ECNL, it is clear they have the quality to be in.
Why have the ECNL not extended an offer?
For the 50 times. They have made a play and were turned down. They don’t have the quality unless poaching from neighboring ECNL clubs. They are blocked due to over saturation and proximity to other clubs. They will not get ECNL. They will not get BRYC spot if they lose it. They will just drop the spot all together.
FCV players that are unhappy with GA can move and join any ECNL club. If you are a good player then take the challenge and show your talent. You can go to a club that is crowded and that may make it easy for you to go to playoffs but you may get frustrated with playing time. Or you can join a team and club where you can explode your talent.
I agree with this. I don't see why FCV should want to leave GA where they are at the top of the heap and doing quite well (as measured by college commits which is the measure, right?). As long as they can stay at the top of GA, compete in GA national tournaments, play in the GA champions league, give players good exposure, then this is a better scenario for them than to be just another middling ECNL club in the mid Atlantic.
Arlington we’re a top 15 GA club.
Lower mid pack in the ECNL MA. I bet those players are happy to be challenged every week though.
Players have to be challenged.
The trouble with staying in GA in an area where there are ECNL choices is that in the long run, it will be hard to continue to attract top talent. The club will weaken over time.
That might happen. Or it might not. You state with certainty (“will”) what is only a guess. Truth is the soccer landscape will probably change over the next few years in ways that aren’t obvious now. How different are things now from just 3, 4, 5 years ago? Why should that level of change not occur again over the next 3-5 years?
There is of course what could happen and what is likely to happen.
There is a range of outcomes that are more likely to happen than others. Here is a short list:
1. GA flips ECNL and attracts top ECNL clubs.
2. Top ECNL clubs get sick of ECNL expansion and decide to go back old school and kick off their own league like they did when they created ECNL in the first place. This could draw from top ECNL and GA clubs.
3. GA settles in as a 2nd tier National league that is utilized more for regional college recruiting, specifically catering to regional Mid and low level D1, D2 and D3 programs.
4. ECNL continues to expand, slowly squeezing GA out by picking GA clubs off one by one until the league is nothing more than ECNL-R or CCL equivalent.
5. Both continue as is for a number of years.
Bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Don’t quit your day job.
Anonymous
10/04/2021 16:30
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should FCV try to make a play to get into ECNL, it is clear they have the quality to be in.
Why have the ECNL not extended an offer?
For the 50 times. They have made a play and were turned down. They don’t have the quality unless poaching from neighboring ECNL clubs. They are blocked due to over saturation and proximity to other clubs. They will not get ECNL. They will not get BRYC spot if they lose it. They will just drop the spot all together.
FCV players that are unhappy with GA can move and join any ECNL club. If you are a good player then take the challenge and show your talent. You can go to a club that is crowded and that may make it easy for you to go to playoffs but you may get frustrated with playing time. Or you can join a team and club where you can explode your talent.
I agree with this. I don't see why FCV should want to leave GA where they are at the top of the heap and doing quite well (as measured by college commits which is the measure, right?). As long as they can stay at the top of GA, compete in GA national tournaments, play in the GA champions league, give players good exposure, then this is a better scenario for them than to be just another middling ECNL club in the mid Atlantic.
Arlington we’re a top 15 GA club.
Lower mid pack in the ECNL MA. I bet those players are happy to be challenged every week though.
Players have to be challenged.
The trouble with staying in GA in an area where there are ECNL choices is that in the long run, it will be hard to continue to attract top talent. The club will weaken over time.
That might happen. Or it might not. You state with certainty (“will”) what is only a guess. Truth is the soccer landscape will probably change over the next few years in ways that aren’t obvious now. How different are things now from just 3, 4, 5 years ago? Why should that level of change not occur again over the next 3-5 years?
I can only comment on what is in front of me. One cannot make decisions based on unknown future developments. My guess is that on the present path, GA and it's members are at a growing disadvantage relative to ECNL clubs.
And the reality top clubs were already heading back to ECNL from DA before DA even folded. GA is a bridge league/Band-Aid to help those DA clubs left out in the cold when their league folded.
Over time GA will find its own footing but ECNL should remain the top league on the girls side for the foreseeable future. I suspect ECNL will pick off more top GA clubs strategically important GA clubs in the coming couple of years.
FCV simply isn't that important a club strategically in NOVA. ECNL are targeting clubs that also have a strong boys program and FCV completely lacks a quality boys side and much of what they did have on the boys went to VA Revolution
Anonymous
10/04/2021 13:52
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should FCV try to make a play to get into ECNL, it is clear they have the quality to be in.
Why have the ECNL not extended an offer?
For the 50 times. They have made a play and were turned down. They don’t have the quality unless poaching from neighboring ECNL clubs. They are blocked due to over saturation and proximity to other clubs. They will not get ECNL. They will not get BRYC spot if they lose it. They will just drop the spot all together.
FCV players that are unhappy with GA can move and join any ECNL club. If you are a good player then take the challenge and show your talent. You can go to a club that is crowded and that may make it easy for you to go to playoffs but you may get frustrated with playing time. Or you can join a team and club where you can explode your talent.
I agree with this. I don't see why FCV should want to leave GA where they are at the top of the heap and doing quite well (as measured by college commits which is the measure, right?). As long as they can stay at the top of GA, compete in GA national tournaments, play in the GA champions league, give players good exposure, then this is a better scenario for them than to be just another middling ECNL club in the mid Atlantic.
Arlington we’re a top 15 GA club.
Lower mid pack in the ECNL MA. I bet those players are happy to be challenged every week though.
Players have to be challenged.
The trouble with staying in GA in an area where there are ECNL choices is that in the long run, it will be hard to continue to attract top talent. The club will weaken over time.
That might happen. Or it might not. You state with certainty (“will”) what is only a guess. Truth is the soccer landscape will probably change over the next few years in ways that aren’t obvious now. How different are things now from just 3, 4, 5 years ago? Why should that level of change not occur again over the next 3-5 years?
I can only comment on what is in front of me. One cannot make decisions based on unknown future developments. My guess is that on the present path, GA and it's members are at a growing disadvantage relative to ECNL clubs.
Anonymous
10/04/2021 13:51
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should FCV try to make a play to get into ECNL, it is clear they have the quality to be in.
Why have the ECNL not extended an offer?
For the 50 times. They have made a play and were turned down. They don’t have the quality unless poaching from neighboring ECNL clubs. They are blocked due to over saturation and proximity to other clubs. They will not get ECNL. They will not get BRYC spot if they lose it. They will just drop the spot all together.
FCV players that are unhappy with GA can move and join any ECNL club. If you are a good player then take the challenge and show your talent. You can go to a club that is crowded and that may make it easy for you to go to playoffs but you may get frustrated with playing time. Or you can join a team and club where you can explode your talent.
I agree with this. I don't see why FCV should want to leave GA where they are at the top of the heap and doing quite well (as measured by college commits which is the measure, right?). As long as they can stay at the top of GA, compete in GA national tournaments, play in the GA champions league, give players good exposure, then this is a better scenario for them than to be just another middling ECNL club in the mid Atlantic.
Arlington we’re a top 15 GA club.
Lower mid pack in the ECNL MA. I bet those players are happy to be challenged every week though.
Players have to be challenged.
The trouble with staying in GA in an area where there are ECNL choices is that in the long run, it will be hard to continue to attract top talent. The club will weaken over time.
That might happen. Or it might not. You state with certainty (“will”) what is only a guess. Truth is the soccer landscape will probably change over the next few years in ways that aren’t obvious now. How different are things now from just 3, 4, 5 years ago? Why should that level of change not occur again over the next 3-5 years?
There is of course what could happen and what is likely to happen.
There is a range of outcomes that are more likely to happen than others. Here is a short list:
1. GA flips ECNL and attracts top ECNL clubs.
2. Top ECNL clubs get sick of ECNL expansion and decide to go back old school and kick off their own league like they did when they created ECNL in the first place. This could draw from top ECNL and GA clubs.
3. GA settles in as a 2nd tier National league that is utilized more for regional college recruiting, specifically catering to regional Mid and low level D1, D2 and D3 programs.
4. ECNL continues to expand, slowly squeezing GA out by picking GA clubs off one by one until the league is nothing more than ECNL-R or CCL equivalent.
5. Both continue as is for a number of years.
Anonymous
10/04/2021 13:35
Subject: FCVSJ in GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Should FCV try to make a play to get into ECNL, it is clear they have the quality to be in.
Why have the ECNL not extended an offer?
For the 50 times. They have made a play and were turned down. They don’t have the quality unless poaching from neighboring ECNL clubs. They are blocked due to over saturation and proximity to other clubs. They will not get ECNL. They will not get BRYC spot if they lose it. They will just drop the spot all together.
FCV players that are unhappy with GA can move and join any ECNL club. If you are a good player then take the challenge and show your talent. You can go to a club that is crowded and that may make it easy for you to go to playoffs but you may get frustrated with playing time. Or you can join a team and club where you can explode your talent.
I agree with this. I don't see why FCV should want to leave GA where they are at the top of the heap and doing quite well (as measured by college commits which is the measure, right?). As long as they can stay at the top of GA, compete in GA national tournaments, play in the GA champions league, give players good exposure, then this is a better scenario for them than to be just another middling ECNL club in the mid Atlantic.
Arlington we’re a top 15 GA club.
Lower mid pack in the ECNL MA. I bet those players are happy to be challenged every week though.
Players have to be challenged.
The trouble with staying in GA in an area where there are ECNL choices is that in the long run, it will be hard to continue to attract top talent. The club will weaken over time.
That might happen. Or it might not. You state with certainty (“will”) what is only a guess. Truth is the soccer landscape will probably change over the next few years in ways that aren’t obvious now. How different are things now from just 3, 4, 5 years ago? Why should that level of change not occur again over the next 3-5 years?