Anonymous wrote:US youth soccer is becoming way too physical. And, it's killing technical skills. There is no way I should see more physical contact in U13 soccer than I do in a pro match, and I routinely do.

Yes. Time to get the thugs out of the game.

US youth soccer is becoming way too physical. And, it's killing technical skills. There is no way I should see more physical contact in U13 soccer than I do in a pro match, and I routinely do.

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Anonymous wrote:Youth soccer needs refs who are willing to pull a yellow or red card whenever necessary. Some teams know refs will not pull yellow and red cards and abuse the system. In my opinion not enough yellows or reds are called in the youth games I've seen. Games would still be physical but a lot of the malice would dissipate over time. I speak only for U11 and below.

In both of these instances if these were pros, both would have been red carded and sent off. This crap should not be tolerated. And you wonder why some parents end up losing it on the sidelines with refs.

And if the ref gave the cards, the other side would scream just as much. Stop blaming the refs because you don't like the calls.

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Anonymous wrote:Youth soccer needs refs who are willing to pull a yellow or red card whenever necessary. Some teams know refs will not pull yellow and red cards and abuse the system. In my opinion not enough yellows or reds are called in the youth games I've seen. Games would still be physical but a lot of the malice would dissipate over time. I speak only for U11 and below.

+1

Both kids just wound up and kicked him as hard as possible in ankle after getting beat.

Yeah, I'm totally sure that happened. Sigh.

It does happen. Alot. Signed - Referee

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Anonymous wrote:Youth soccer needs refs who are willing to pull a yellow or red card whenever necessary. Some teams know refs will not pull yellow and red cards and abuse the system. In my opinion not enough yellows or reds are called in the youth games I've seen. Games would still be physical but a lot of the malice would dissipate over time. I speak only for U11 and below.

+1

Both kids just wound up and kicked him as hard as possible in ankle after getting beat.

Yeah, I'm totally sure that happened. Sigh.

Anonymous wrote:Youth soccer needs refs who are willing to pull a yellow or red card whenever necessary. Some teams know refs will not pull yellow and red cards and abuse the system. In my opinion not enough yellows or reds are called in the youth games I've seen. Games would still be physical but a lot of the malice would dissipate over time. I speak only for U11 and below.

+1

Two weeks in a row this season, my son has been purposely clipped from behind. Both kids just wound up and kicked him as hard as possible in ankle after getting beat. This is happening at the top level of U10 in this area. In the first instance, kid got a yellow card. In second instance, nothing. That kid eventually got a warning in the second half after he took out two other kids in the game (one of dirtiest individual players come across).

In both of these instances if these were pros, both would have been red carded and sent off. This crap should not be tolerated. And you wonder why some parents end up losing it on the sidelines with refs.

Refs should be carding with more frequency at U9 and U10. A lot of stuff is being taught to these kids by either coaches or parents. Kids should be mastering foot skills at this age and comfort on the ball; instead they're being taught how to pull jerseys and kick kids from behind. Just bush league.

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Anonymous wrote:Might be an unpopular opinion, but I think refs should be very slow to show a red at the youth level. Send off a player who is clearly endangering the safety of other players or fighting, but I’ve seen some games recently where a red card is given for something like cursing and it seems to really send a game down a bad path, e.g. fights, more reds, etc.

Refs do not show nearly enough red cards in youth soccer. If the foul warrants a red card in the adult game, why should a different rule, which encourages rough play, apply in youth soccer? Most red cards I have seen in youth soccer are shown to players that talk to the refs. I have see some really nasty fouls left unpunished at youth games, because refs are afraid the parents' reaction.

Totally agree would love to see more cards given a younger levels . It teaches kids to stick by the rules.

It teaches the kids to not get caught and to goad the other team into doing something stupid. DD loves trying to draw fouls and whispers some pretty awful stuff to defenders during corners or when she's trying to get in the wall for set pieces. Reactions and flopping have gotten her a bunch of PKs, it would be so much worse if the refs called more

Refs can also give cards for flopping.

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Anonymous wrote:Might be an unpopular opinion, but I think refs should be very slow to show a red at the youth level. Send off a player who is clearly endangering the safety of other players or fighting, but I’ve seen some games recently where a red card is given for something like cursing and it seems to really send a game down a bad path, e.g. fights, more reds, etc.

Refs do not show nearly enough red cards in youth soccer. If the foul warrants a red card in the adult game, why should a different rule, which encourages rough play, apply in youth soccer? Most red cards I have seen in youth soccer are shown to players that talk to the refs. I have see some really nasty fouls left unpunished at youth games, because refs are afraid the parents' reaction.

Totally agree would love to see more cards given a younger levels . It teaches kids to stick by the rules.

It teaches the kids to not get caught and to goad the other team into doing something stupid. DD loves trying to draw fouls and whispers some pretty awful stuff to defenders during corners or when she's trying to get in the wall for set pieces. Reactions and flopping have gotten her a bunch of PKs, it would be so much worse if the refs called more

She sounds like a great kid, troll.

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Anonymous wrote:Might be an unpopular opinion, but I think refs should be very slow to show a red at the youth level. Send off a player who is clearly endangering the safety of other players or fighting, but I’ve seen some games recently where a red card is given for something like cursing and it seems to really send a game down a bad path, e.g. fights, more reds, etc.

Refs do not show nearly enough red cards in youth soccer. If the foul warrants a red card in the adult game, why should a different rule, which encourages rough play, apply in youth soccer? Most red cards I have seen in youth soccer are shown to players that talk to the refs. I have see some really nasty fouls left unpunished at youth games, because refs are afraid the parents' reaction.

Totally agree would love to see more cards given a younger levels . It teaches kids to stick by the rules.

It teaches the kids to not get caught and to goad the other team into doing something stupid. DD loves trying to draw fouls and whispers some pretty awful stuff to defenders during corners or when she's trying to get in the wall for set pieces. Reactions and flopping have gotten her a bunch of PKs, it would be so much worse if the refs called more

Wow! I would hope you are trying to parent that horribleness out of her.

I have seen two red cards this season and both were deserved. One was the result of two yellows, when the kid (an opponent) was audibly yelling and cursing at the ref on two occasions. The other was a teammate of my son's who fouled a kid hard from behind in a really ugly way. I have seen a lot of yellows and think there could have been many more but agree that these were the most egregious.

Youth soccer needs refs who are willing to pull a yellow or red card whenever necessary. Some teams know refs will not pull yellow and red cards and abuse the system. In my opinion not enough yellows or reds are called in the youth games I've seen. Games would still be physical but a lot of the malice would dissipate over time. I speak only for U11 and below.

Yes you’re willfully ignorant if you don’t notice or accept there is disparity in treatment / extra scrutiny of black and brown players - (and yes also big players). Is there a reason you think the soccer pitch would be exempt from what research and even half a heart/brain has shown is a fact with regard to racial disparities in essentially every area of life?

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Anonymous wrote:Might be an unpopular opinion, but I think refs should be very slow to show a red at the youth level. Send off a player who is clearly endangering the safety of other players or fighting, but I’ve seen some games recently where a red card is given for something like cursing and it seems to really send a game down a bad path, e.g. fights, more reds, etc.

Refs do not show nearly enough red cards in youth soccer. If the foul warrants a red card in the adult game, why should a different rule, which encourages rough play, apply in youth soccer? Most red cards I have seen in youth soccer are shown to players that talk to the refs. I have see some really nasty fouls left unpunished at youth games, because refs are afraid the parents' reaction.

Totally agree would love to see more cards given a younger levels . It teaches kids to stick by the rules.

It teaches the kids to not get caught and to goad the other team into doing something stupid. DD loves trying to draw fouls and whispers some pretty awful stuff to defenders during corners or when she's trying to get in the wall for set pieces. Reactions and flopping have gotten her a bunch of PKs, it would be so much worse if the refs called more

Sure

I’m noticing that refs are quicker to give yellow cards to the black and browns girls on our team. Anyone else notice that?

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Anonymous wrote:Might be an unpopular opinion, but I think refs should be very slow to show a red at the youth level. Send off a player who is clearly endangering the safety of other players or fighting, but I’ve seen some games recently where a red card is given for something like cursing and it seems to really send a game down a bad path, e.g. fights, more reds, etc.

Refs do not show nearly enough red cards in youth soccer. If the foul warrants a red card in the adult game, why should a different rule, which encourages rough play, apply in youth soccer? Most red cards I have seen in youth soccer are shown to players that talk to the refs. I have see some really nasty fouls left unpunished at youth games, because refs are afraid the parents' reaction.

Totally agree would love to see more cards given a younger levels . It teaches kids to stick by the rules.

It teaches the kids to not get caught and to goad the other team into doing something stupid. DD loves trying to draw fouls and whispers some pretty awful stuff to defenders during corners or when she's trying to get in the wall for set pieces. Reactions and flopping have gotten her a bunch of PKs, it would be so much worse if the refs called more

You’re ok with your daughter doing that? That sounds like a pretty awful way to play or even know how to do. I’ve seen it but it’s always coming from the least skilled/most insecure players. But hey, I guess you do what you need to do to stay competitive.