Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 11:30     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

Yeah, and the thing is he is very decent, but not great, at soccer. However, he does really love exercise, and it truly has a positive effect on his behavior ( he has some behavioral disabilities). But we are torn about whether he is overdoing it. The issue is that when he doesn't get a ton of exercise, it leads to increased acting out at school and mean behavior towards his brother.


No offense but if he's just very decent then cut out the private trainer and also consider giving up one of the two soccer teams (e.g. give up year round futsal but perhaps offer futsal when outdoor soccer team is dormant). What is the point? Perhaps incorporate something like swimming instead if you think there is a causal relationship between exercise and behavior.



Seriously, I don’t get it, at what time your kids do school work, read a book or just let their young bodies develop properly.


He reads every day for 20-30 minutes, but doesn't love it (we require him to). He doesn't have a lot of homework, and doesn't make much effort to socialize with friends outside of sports. He's in one non-sports related club at school, which he likes, but doesn't want to add others. There's not tons he is interested in doing besides soccer and ipad/Play Station.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 08:11     Subject: Over use or not fit enough?

Strength training, and stretching (or yoga which is both). Activate the muscles not as heavily used that provide joint stability. Example: jump squats with soft landing to improve knee stability. Also, watch the diet to keep weight at proper levels. Some of this is luck however.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 08:10     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

After having a child with an over-use injury I can tell you that the rehab focused more on core strength training and proper technique. After that, we kept up the core training and things seem to be better 1 year later. The coaches flaunt the big credentials for their respective sports but lack the understanding and proper way to use your body.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 19:33     Subject: Over use or not fit enough?

Yeah, it could go either way.

DD1 jumps in and out of sports seasons with little regular training for 4-8 weeks in between. She has had several overuse- type injuries -- stress fractures and tendonitis.

DD2 plays organized sports 12 months a year, averaging more than a game/practice a day for 10 of those months. Never had an overuse injury, even though she is far from the most fit kid on any team.

Proper training and stretching really matter. All it takes is a slightly tight hamstring, groin, hip, or quad to put knees/hips/back out of whack and cause overuse (or more serious) injuries.

Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 18:01     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

Most overuse injuries in youth sports are not actually from doing too much. Most are from doing activities using the wrong for or technique too much. If you analyze most over use injuries in kids many times there running form snd jumping and landing techniques are wrong from the start. Things like poor fitting or incorrect shoes contribute a bunch. Even with the better young athletes weight is a factor . Most parents dont acknowledge it but even 5lbs extra puts an extreme amount of stress a growing developing body. So your kid doesn't have to be obese to be carrying too much weight.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 17:42     Subject: Over use or not fit enough?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No idea generally, but my 12 year old son was injured through over use. He practices with his travel team twice a week, his year round futsal team once a week, plus usually 1-2 games a week, and one session per week with his private trainer. On top of that, he is in a track club at school one day per week. He developed a stress fracture this year and it has been tough on him. He hates having to take a break from exercise.


More likely this was due to his being overweight.


Np- totally false
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 17:39     Subject: Over use or not fit enough?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No idea generally, but my 12 year old son was injured through over use. He practices with his travel team twice a week, his year round futsal team once a week, plus usually 1-2 games a week, and one session per week with his private trainer. On top of that, he is in a track club at school one day per week. He developed a stress fracture this year and it has been tough on him. He hates having to take a break from exercise.


Reading this, that is entirely too much. But I know it is difficult to see that when doing day to day life.

Yes, injury through overuse is very common. It does not have to be a stress fracture. It can be painful chronic tendinitis that is only healed with a long period of rest.



Will preventative strength training help avoid that?


Partially really. It is helpful to avoid muscle strains, sprains, bone and muscle strengthening but overuse chronic tendinitis (and apophysitis which is similar) is very common and truly comes from doing too much. The kids should take an off season and or cross train (even if for fun).
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 16:42     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
No idea generally, but my 12 year old son was injured through over use. He practices with his travel team twice a week, his year round futsal team once a week, plus usually 1-2 games a week, and one session per week with his private trainer. On top of that, he is in a track club at school one day per week. He developed a stress fracture this year and it has been tough on him. He hates having to take a break from exercise.


Reading this, that is entirely too much. But I know it is difficult to see that when doing day to day life.

Yes, injury through overuse is very common. It does not have to be a stress fracture. It can be painful chronic tendinitis that is only healed with a long period of rest.


Yeah, and the thing is he is very decent, but not great, at soccer. However, he does really love exercise, and it truly has a positive effect on his behavior ( he has some behavioral disabilities). But we are torn about whether he is overdoing it. The issue is that when he doesn't get a ton of exercise, it leads to increased acting out at school and mean behavior towards his brother.


No offense but if he's just very decent then cut out the private trainer and also consider giving up one of the two soccer teams (e.g. give up year round futsal but perhaps offer futsal when outdoor soccer team is dormant). What is the point? Perhaps incorporate something like swimming instead if you think there is a causal relationship between exercise and behavior.



Seriously, I don’t get it, at what time your kids do school work, read a book or just let their young bodies develop properly. Kids do regular practices, private training, ODP, futsal, and some kids even a second sport. All these does just cause parents are sick (FOMO). Let kids be kids at least once per week.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 15:53     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

Anonymous wrote:
No idea generally, but my 12 year old son was injured through over use. He practices with his travel team twice a week, his year round futsal team once a week, plus usually 1-2 games a week, and one session per week with his private trainer. On top of that, he is in a track club at school one day per week. He developed a stress fracture this year and it has been tough on him. He hates having to take a break from exercise.


Reading this, that is entirely too much. But I know it is difficult to see that when doing day to day life.

Yes, injury through overuse is very common. It does not have to be a stress fracture. It can be painful chronic tendinitis that is only healed with a long period of rest.


Yeah, and the thing is he is very decent, but not great, at soccer. However, he does really love exercise, and it truly has a positive effect on his behavior ( he has some behavioral disabilities). But we are torn about whether he is overdoing it. The issue is that when he doesn't get a ton of exercise, it leads to increased acting out at school and mean behavior towards his brother.


No offense but if he's just very decent then cut out the private trainer and also consider giving up one of the two soccer teams (e.g. give up year round futsal but perhaps offer futsal when outdoor soccer team is dormant). What is the point? Perhaps incorporate something like swimming instead if you think there is a causal relationship between exercise and behavior.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 14:55     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
He obviously training a lot and sounds like he is in good shape. Are you having him do any strength work and preventative work like yoga?


He does strength training with my husband (we have a little home gym with weights). He refuses to do yoga, I have tried to encourage.


Why would you try and make him do yoga? That's a thing for women in late middle age.


OH-- F U! 51-year old woman that just got back from Crossfit. I still run in marathon sub 3. Former soccer player.

I have never taken a yoga class. I do pilates lagresse though.


Wanna date?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 13:52     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
He obviously training a lot and sounds like he is in good shape. Are you having him do any strength work and preventative work like yoga?


He does strength training with my husband (we have a little home gym with weights). He refuses to do yoga, I have tried to encourage.


Why would you try and make him do yoga? That's a thing for women in late middle age.


OH-- F U! 51-year old woman that just got back from Crossfit. I still run in marathon sub 3. Former soccer player.

I have never taken a yoga class. I do pilates lagresse though.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 11:56     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
He obviously training a lot and sounds like he is in good shape. Are you having him do any strength work and preventative work like yoga?


He does strength training with my husband (we have a little home gym with weights). He refuses to do yoga, I have tried to encourage.


Why would you try and make him do yoga? That's a thing for women in late middle age.


So obviously you're a middle aged man with the beer gut standing on the sidelines of DC soccer games and telling them to run when you can't run for 5 minutes.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 11:56     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
He obviously training a lot and sounds like he is in good shape. Are you having him do any strength work and preventative work like yoga?


He does strength training with my husband (we have a little home gym with weights). He refuses to do yoga, I have tried to encourage.


Why would you try and make him do yoga? That's a thing for women in late middle age.


DP. Yoga is excellent for flexibility, which is important for injury prevention. Lots of professional athletes do yoga as part of their conditioning routines.


No sh-t. Did you really think he was serious? He was being funny. Geezuz.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 11:48     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
He obviously training a lot and sounds like he is in good shape. Are you having him do any strength work and preventative work like yoga?


He does strength training with my husband (we have a little home gym with weights). He refuses to do yoga, I have tried to encourage.


Why would you try and make him do yoga? That's a thing for women in late middle age.


DP. Yoga is excellent for flexibility, which is important for injury prevention. Lots of professional athletes do yoga as part of their conditioning routines.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 11:46     Subject: Re:Over use or not fit enough?

Anonymous wrote:
He obviously training a lot and sounds like he is in good shape. Are you having him do any strength work and preventative work like yoga?


He does strength training with my husband (we have a little home gym with weights). He refuses to do yoga, I have tried to encourage.


Why would you try and make him do yoga? That's a thing for women in late middle age.