Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 17:09     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

I like this list. Very helpful. Thanks!
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:34     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from these lists is that the "top" public universities, Vandy, Northwestern, and UChicago are quite overrated. And also, Northwestern alums control newsrooms where these rankings and their methodologies are tweaked. Nobody in real life thinks Northwestern undergrad is "elite".


+1.


Public universities admit applicants by major, and it's often next to impossible to switch majors. If one normalizes by the number of students in the related majors, it will be a total different story.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:32     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

^Don't mind the Northwestern/UChicago hater on DCUM. They literally hunt out threads on here that mention those two schools and will go out of their way to post the same boring insults ad infinitum.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:31     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from these lists is that the "top" public universities, Vandy, Northwestern, and UChicago are quite overrated. And also, Northwestern alums control newsrooms where these rankings and their methodologies are tweaked. Nobody in real life thinks Northwestern undergrad is "elite".


You are legitimately deranged and, it seems, a conspiracy theorist to boot.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:26     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

There is no such thing as a T14 law school "feeder." Basic correlation-is-not-causation. Original post is misleading.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:23     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from these lists is that the "top" public universities, Vandy, Northwestern, and UChicago are quite overrated. And also, Northwestern alums control newsrooms where these rankings and their methodologies are tweaked. Nobody in real life thinks Northwestern undergrad is "elite".


+1.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:17     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Anonymous wrote:Might UChicago be the #1 Wall Street feeder if you included Ken Griffin's Chicago-based Citadel?


Citadel is a small shop with fewer than 2k employees.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:15     Subject: Re:Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Really interesting thread. But what makes these the "T15" tech companies? Where's Amazon, Facebook and Paypal — even Snapchat, Square, and Uber? Maybe the list remains the same but maybe not. I assume San Jose State is missing from the colleges, too, which makes me wary of this ranking.

T15 Tech Companies (Adobe, AirBnB, Apple, DocuSign, Github, Google, HubSpot, LinkedIn, Lyft, Microsoft, Netflix, NVIDIA, SalesForce, Slack, and Twitter), adjusted for undergrad enrollment.
1. CMU
2. Stanford
3. Caltech
4. Harvey Mudd
5. Columbia
6. MIT
7. Georgia Tech
8. USC
9. Rice
10. Duke
11. Princeton
12. Berkeley
13. Cornell
14. Brown
15. Penn
16. Harvard
17. University of Washington
18. Santa Clara
19. Northwestern
20. Northeastern
21. Swarthmore
22. Yale
23. UCSD
24. UIUC
25. WashU - St. Louis


Amazon is listed under "engineering" firms. You're right though, some companies are missing and this is, by all means, an incomplete list. I mean San Jose State probably produces a lot of grads into those industries, too, but adjusted for their large undergraduate population, their numbers become less impressive.


There are two kinds of IT companies, one focusing on software, one on hardware. The latter has lots of people involved in the supply chains, manufacturing and logistics. Apple has a large sale people working in Apple Stores. Google has lots of jobs in product managements, which tend to be filled by no-tech people. So this makes the comparison difficult.

And today's IT star can be tomorrow's duds. Do people still remember these internet stars: Sun Micro, Lucent, Cisco, Nortel, not to mention IBM?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:48     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Odd omissions on the tech front, and it's not as if those are hard to source as every kid updates their LinkedIn immediately after getting an internship and FT offer. Maybe someone can email the website to ask them about it.

And I know T14 law is a thing but is T25 medical school? I've never heard of that, seems arbitrary, and puts the finger on the scale of schools with an alleged T25 medical school because often the top feeder is the university's own undergrad. Getting into any of the 200 or so US medical schools is considered a feat, I don't see the point is cutting that off at T25. I mean GWU is considered #60 medical school, is any parent going to be upset their kid only got into GWU medical school? Of course not.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:39     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

PP lacks reading comprehension.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:29     Subject: Re:Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Really interesting thread. But what makes these the "T15" tech companies? Where's Amazon, Facebook and Paypal — even Snapchat, Square, and Uber? Maybe the list remains the same but maybe not. I assume San Jose State is missing from the colleges, too, which makes me wary of this ranking.

T15 Tech Companies (Adobe, AirBnB, Apple, DocuSign, Github, Google, HubSpot, LinkedIn, Lyft, Microsoft, Netflix, NVIDIA, SalesForce, Slack, and Twitter), adjusted for undergrad enrollment.
1. CMU
2. Stanford
3. Caltech
4. Harvey Mudd
5. Columbia
6. MIT
7. Georgia Tech
8. USC
9. Rice
10. Duke
11. Princeton
12. Berkeley
13. Cornell
14. Brown
15. Penn
16. Harvard
17. University of Washington
18. Santa Clara
19. Northwestern
20. Northeastern
21. Swarthmore
22. Yale
23. UCSD
24. UIUC
25. WashU - St. Louis


Amazon is listed under "engineering" firms. You're right though, some companies are missing and this is, by all means, an incomplete list. I mean San Jose State probably produces a lot of grads into those industries, too, but adjusted for their large undergraduate population, their numbers become less impressive.


Why is amazon under engineering but not tech even though apple is double listed? Also agree that facebook being missing is quite suspicious.


I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the rankings remain the same. But like a PP said, maybe U of Washington gets a boost because of Amazon.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:24     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Anonymous wrote:Might UChicago be the #1 Wall Street feeder if you included Ken Griffin's Chicago-based Citadel?


No. Most of their operations are in New York. Chicago is really just an afterthought. They do undergraduate recruiting from schools like HYP, Wharton/Penn, Columbia, and MIT. and I wouldn't be surprised if they are still the most represented colleges for kids who move into Citadel after a few years in IB.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:18     Subject: Re:Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Really interesting thread. But what makes these the "T15" tech companies? Where's Amazon, Facebook and Paypal — even Snapchat, Square, and Uber? Maybe the list remains the same but maybe not. I assume San Jose State is missing from the colleges, too, which makes me wary of this ranking.

T15 Tech Companies (Adobe, AirBnB, Apple, DocuSign, Github, Google, HubSpot, LinkedIn, Lyft, Microsoft, Netflix, NVIDIA, SalesForce, Slack, and Twitter), adjusted for undergrad enrollment.
1. CMU
2. Stanford
3. Caltech
4. Harvey Mudd
5. Columbia
6. MIT
7. Georgia Tech
8. USC
9. Rice
10. Duke
11. Princeton
12. Berkeley
13. Cornell
14. Brown
15. Penn
16. Harvard
17. University of Washington
18. Santa Clara
19. Northwestern
20. Northeastern
21. Swarthmore
22. Yale
23. UCSD
24. UIUC
25. WashU - St. Louis


Amazon is listed under "engineering" firms. You're right though, some companies are missing and this is, by all means, an incomplete list. I mean San Jose State probably produces a lot of grads into those industries, too, but adjusted for their large undergraduate population, their numbers become less impressive.


Why is amazon under engineering but not tech even though apple is double listed? Also agree that facebook being missing is quite suspicious.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:16     Subject: Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Anonymous wrote:Might UChicago be the #1 Wall Street feeder if you included Ken Griffin's Chicago-based Citadel?


Nope. Citadel isn't that big and they actually relocate most of their employees from NYC to chicago.

This is an old article but it still holds true they hire most of their employees from NYC and poach them: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2007-09-23-0709220030-story.html
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 15:16     Subject: Re:Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

Anonymous wrote:Really interesting thread. But what makes these the "T15" tech companies? Where's Amazon, Facebook and Paypal — even Snapchat, Square, and Uber? Maybe the list remains the same but maybe not. I assume San Jose State is missing from the colleges, too, which makes me wary of this ranking.

T15 Tech Companies (Adobe, AirBnB, Apple, DocuSign, Github, Google, HubSpot, LinkedIn, Lyft, Microsoft, Netflix, NVIDIA, SalesForce, Slack, and Twitter), adjusted for undergrad enrollment.
1. CMU
2. Stanford
3. Caltech
4. Harvey Mudd
5. Columbia
6. MIT
7. Georgia Tech
8. USC
9. Rice
10. Duke
11. Princeton
12. Berkeley
13. Cornell
14. Brown
15. Penn
16. Harvard
17. University of Washington
18. Santa Clara
19. Northwestern
20. Northeastern
21. Swarthmore
22. Yale
23. UCSD
24. UIUC
25. WashU - St. Louis


San Jose State is ranked #22 on the list of raw numbers, above schools like Duke, Brown, Harvard, and UVA.