Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 11:24     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you evaluate "doing a great job"?


Generally speaking, when your players want to stay and new players from the outside are fighting to make the team.

Specifically, lots of factors and my factors likely have differences from yours and those of other parents.

But if your team/club is facing mass exodus and no one is clamoring to join, maybe that bag of clues from Amazon would help.



Based on that criteria, both MU and FCV are doing a terrible job.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 11:17     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:How do you evaluate "doing a great job"?


Generally speaking, when your players want to stay and new players from the outside are fighting to make the team.

Specifically, lots of factors and my factors likely have differences from yours and those of other parents.

But if your team/club is facing mass exodus and no one is clamoring to join, maybe that bag of clues from Amazon would help.

Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 11:13     Subject: Metro United

How do you evaluate "doing a great job"?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 11:12     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:To be clear, the 10:51 and 11:04 poster couldn’t find a clue if he/she were buried in a bag of clues.


Lol. Wouldn't it be great if you could buy bags of clues on Amazon?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 11:08     Subject: Metro United

To be clear, the 10:51 and 11:04 poster couldn’t find a clue if he/she were buried in a bag of clues.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 11:06     Subject: Metro United

^^^^PP of the past two posts clearly has no clue.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 11:06     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:So MU players are terrible, just look at the game scores that prove it. Also expect FCV to recruit them away because FCV is great. Got it.

Where do the current FCV players go when the MU players come over?


Maybe try reading what I wrote before responding. No need to worry about players leaving if you're doing a great job. And, even better, you will actually have players coming to you. Or you could spin and complain every day on these boards.

This is for every club and every team. Not just MU and FCV.

Got it?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 11:04     Subject: Metro United

So MU players are terrible, just look at the game scores that prove it. Also expect FCV to recruit them away because FCV is great. Got it.

Where do the current FCV players go when the MU players come over?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 10:51     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MU has just as real a staff as any of these other options. What they don’t have in some age groups is the same number of players at the needed level. Yet. There’s no evidence to suggest that players don’t develop there; the opposite is actually true with all the recruiting done by other clubs to get the upper third Spirit/MU players.

Why so quick to assume the moves are due to recruiting? Why couldn't the players who moved just have made a choice to have a different experience?


Because when your kid has been recruited, you know it. Parents also talk.

Sure, there are some players have left because they want to be on winning teams, but people leave clubs everywhere for other reasons, including FCV (especially given some of the incidents, not to be named, that have been discussed here).


You do realize that the GDA is supposed to be a competitive environment right? So if a club isn't competitive AND isn't developing the players (beyond the PR campaign of its staff and coaches) what else is there at this level? Just for fun? GDA isn't for just having fun - it is COMPETITIVE. Why is this so hard to appreciate?

Top players naturally want to play on top teams and with other top players. Competitive coaches are...competitive. The question every club and coach at the most competitive levels should be asking is whether or not they are doing a good-enough job to retain and attract talent.

If the answer is no, then there is no one to blame but themselves. It isn't some conspiracy against your club no matter how many lunatics on these forums tell you so. It is competition.




Ummm who said there was a conspiracy? A PP stated that MU players had been recruited away from MU to FCV. A FCV poster laughed this off as impossible because in their mind if a player is on a bad team then they are also a bad player.


The conspiracy for MU to lose all their top players to the boogie-man recruiters. Everyone recruits, including MU. Some teams/clubs have more appeal than others. Don't hate, just get better.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 10:13     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MU has just as real a staff as any of these other options. What they don’t have in some age groups is the same number of players at the needed level. Yet. There’s no evidence to suggest that players don’t develop there; the opposite is actually true with all the recruiting done by other clubs to get the upper third Spirit/MU players.

Why so quick to assume the moves are due to recruiting? Why couldn't the players who moved just have made a choice to have a different experience?


Because when your kid has been recruited, you know it. Parents also talk.

Sure, there are some players have left because they want to be on winning teams, but people leave clubs everywhere for other reasons, including FCV (especially given some of the incidents, not to be named, that have been discussed here).


You do realize that the GDA is supposed to be a competitive environment right? So if a club isn't competitive AND isn't developing the players (beyond the PR campaign of its staff and coaches) what else is there at this level? Just for fun? GDA isn't for just having fun - it is COMPETITIVE. Why is this so hard to appreciate?

Top players naturally want to play on top teams and with other top players. Competitive coaches are...competitive. The question every club and coach at the most competitive levels should be asking is whether or not they are doing a good-enough job to retain and attract talent.

If the answer is no, then there is no one to blame but themselves. It isn't some conspiracy against your club no matter how many lunatics on these forums tell you so. It is competition.


Ummm who said there was a conspiracy? A PP stated that MU players had been recruited away from MU to FCV. A FCV poster laughed this off as impossible because in their mind if a player is on a bad team then they are also a bad player.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 09:54     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MU has just as real a staff as any of these other options. What they don’t have in some age groups is the same number of players at the needed level. Yet. There’s no evidence to suggest that players don’t develop there; the opposite is actually true with all the recruiting done by other clubs to get the upper third Spirit/MU players.

Why so quick to assume the moves are due to recruiting? Why couldn't the players who moved just have made a choice to have a different experience?


Because when your kid has been recruited, you know it. Parents also talk.

Sure, there are some players have left because they want to be on winning teams, but people leave clubs everywhere for other reasons, including FCV (especially given some of the incidents, not to be named, that have been discussed here).


You do realize that the GDA is supposed to be a competitive environment right? So if a club isn't competitive AND isn't developing the players (beyond the PR campaign of its staff and coaches) what else is there at this level? Just for fun? GDA isn't for just having fun - it is COMPETITIVE. Why is this so hard to appreciate?

Top players naturally want to play on top teams and with other top players. Competitive coaches are...competitive. The question every club and coach at the most competitive levels should be asking is whether or not they are doing a good-enough job to retain and attract talent.

If the answer is no, then there is no one to blame but themselves. It isn't some conspiracy against your club no matter how many lunatics on these forums tell you so. It is competition.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 08:53     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MU has just as real a staff as any of these other options. What they don’t have in some age groups is the same number of players at the needed level. Yet. There’s no evidence to suggest that players don’t develop there; the opposite is actually true with all the recruiting done by other clubs to get the upper third Spirit/MU players.

Why so quick to assume the moves are due to recruiting? Why couldn't the players who moved just have made a choice to have a different experience?


Because when your kid has been recruited, you know it. Parents also talk.

Sure, there are some players have left because they want to be on winning teams, but people leave clubs everywhere for other reasons, including FCV (especially given some of the incidents, not to be named, that have been discussed here).
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 08:49     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MU has just as real a staff as any of these other options. What they don’t have in some age groups is the same number of players at the needed level. Yet. There’s no evidence to suggest that players don’t develop there; the opposite is actually true with all the recruiting done by other clubs to get the upper third Spirit/MU players.


I agree. They would probably retain more of those players if they made more competitive decisions with their available player pool.


This is completely accurate. They could also be more creative in attracting the players that have flirted with MU but are playing outside the DA or with partner clubs into the DA program. Those are the areas in which they could improve.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 08:24     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:MU has just as real a staff as any of these other options. What they don’t have in some age groups is the same number of players at the needed level. Yet. There’s no evidence to suggest that players don’t develop there; the opposite is actually true with all the recruiting done by other clubs to get the upper third Spirit/MU players.

Why so quick to assume the moves are due to recruiting? Why couldn't the players who moved just have made a choice to have a different experience?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2019 08:24     Subject: Metro United

Anonymous wrote:MU has just as real a staff as any of these other options. What they don’t have in some age groups is the same number of players at the needed level. Yet. There’s no evidence to suggest that players don’t develop there; the opposite is actually true with all the recruiting done by other clubs to get the upper third Spirit/MU players.


I agree. They would probably retain more of those players if they made more competitive decisions with their available player pool.