Anonymous wrote:French person here.

This was on the French news. The presenter clearly laid out the difference between what ICE claims to have happened, and what the videos show.

I think it's only a tiny subset of MAGA trolls who insist this was not a fatal error on the part of the ICE agent.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who are comfortable antagonizing poorly trained, jacked up people with guns. It shouldn’t be this way but we’ve seen enough of police shooting people for me to wonder at the lack of self preservation.

If you’re gonna protest. Think about what you are doing. How you are doing it and what the possible outcomes might be. I know people will say it’s victim blaming but the only thing we can control is what we do.

This is true. Injecting yourself in tense environments with unprofessional people carrying guns is definitely stupid.

Don't confuse the poorly trained ICE idiot with police officers. 99% of city and state police officers would never have discharged their weapon in this circumstance.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reported shooter is lucky. A search for Jonathan Ross still almost exclusively turns up hits for the UK comic and presenter.

I think today it sank in that he will face zero repercusiones and nothing is going to change. This feels like a new and accelerated time, because of the sheer willingness of the government to keep the arms flowing, married to the unwillingness to end sovereign immunity, money in politics, or seriously prosecuting insurrection and murder by state agents and politicians. For every humiliating Bob Menéndez trial, we have a Trump walking around and ruling or getting massive financial windfalls.

This isn’t Kent State. In 1970, you could not be tracked virtually round the clock and/or presumed to be a “terrorist” because you read a columnist or donate to the ACLU. This feels very, very different.

He is apparent from here in Virginia!

What other info is out about him?

Honestly, spark plug bad built balding white guy screaming obscenities while pointing a loaded weapon at an unarmed woman could be any American middle-aged man.

Please think about how you are insulting non-violent middle aged men like me who are on your side. Why would you carelessly malign people who are also fighting for justice? There are enough real examples of violence that we don’t have to scapegoat innocent men in order to have a dynamic discussion about toxic masculinity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reported shooter is lucky. A search for Jonathan Ross still almost exclusively turns up hits for the UK comic and presenter.

I think today it sank in that he will face zero repercusiones and nothing is going to change. This feels like a new and accelerated time, because of the sheer willingness of the government to keep the arms flowing, married to the unwillingness to end sovereign immunity, money in politics, or seriously prosecuting insurrection and murder by state agents and politicians. For every humiliating Bob Menéndez trial, we have a Trump walking around and ruling or getting massive financial windfalls.

This isn’t Kent State. In 1970, you could not be tracked virtually round the clock and/or presumed to be a “terrorist” because you read a columnist or donate to the ACLU. This feels very, very different.

He is apparent from here in Virginia!

What other info is out about him?

Honestly, spark plug bad built balding white guy screaming obscenities while pointing a loaded weapon at an unarmed woman could be any American middle-aged man.

The video shows he did not even take his gun out of the little belt thingy until after there was forward movement of the SUV.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reported shooter is lucky. A search for Jonathan Ross still almost exclusively turns up hits for the UK comic and presenter.

I think today it sank in that he will face zero repercusiones and nothing is going to change. This feels like a new and accelerated time, because of the sheer willingness of the government to keep the arms flowing, married to the unwillingness to end sovereign immunity, money in politics, or seriously prosecuting insurrection and murder by state agents and politicians. For every humiliating Bob Menéndez trial, we have a Trump walking around and ruling or getting massive financial windfalls.

This isn’t Kent State. In 1970, you could not be tracked virtually round the clock and/or presumed to be a “terrorist” because you read a columnist or donate to the ACLU. This feels very, very different.

He is apparent from here in Virginia!

What other info is out about him?

Honestly, spark plug bad built balding white guy screaming obscenities while pointing a loaded weapon at an unarmed woman could be any American middle-aged man.

Please think about how you are insulting non-violent middle aged men like me who are on your side. Why would you carelessly malign people who are also fighting for justice? There are enough real examples of violence that we don’t have to scapegoat innocent men in order to have a dynamic discussion about toxic masculinity.

Anonymous wrote:The most clear video I have yet to see is this one from the BBC:

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/ceqzj9932wjo

Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who are comfortable antagonizing poorly trained, jacked up people with guns. It shouldn’t be this way but we’ve seen enough of police shooting people for me to wonder at the lack of self preservation.

If you’re gonna protest. Think about what you are doing. How you are doing it and what the possible outcomes might be. I know people will say it’s victim blaming but the only thing we can control is what we do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reported shooter is lucky. A search for Jonathan Ross still almost exclusively turns up hits for the UK comic and presenter.

I think today it sank in that he will face zero repercusiones and nothing is going to change. This feels like a new and accelerated time, because of the sheer willingness of the government to keep the arms flowing, married to the unwillingness to end sovereign immunity, money in politics, or seriously prosecuting insurrection and murder by state agents and politicians. For every humiliating Bob Menéndez trial, we have a Trump walking around and ruling or getting massive financial windfalls.

This isn’t Kent State. In 1970, you could not be tracked virtually round the clock and/or presumed to be a “terrorist” because you read a columnist or donate to the ACLU. This feels very, very different.

He is apparent from here in Virginia!

What other info is out about him?

Honestly, spark plug bad built balding white guy screaming obscenities while pointing a loaded weapon at an unarmed woman could be any American middle-aged man.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reported shooter is lucky. A search for Jonathan Ross still almost exclusively turns up hits for the UK comic and presenter.

I think today it sank in that he will face zero repercusiones and nothing is going to change. This feels like a new and accelerated time, because of the sheer willingness of the government to keep the arms flowing, married to the unwillingness to end sovereign immunity, money in politics, or seriously prosecuting insurrection and murder by state agents and politicians. For every humiliating Bob Menéndez trial, we have a Trump walking around and ruling or getting massive financial windfalls.

This isn’t Kent State. In 1970, you could not be tracked virtually round the clock and/or presumed to be a “terrorist” because you read a columnist or donate to the ACLU. This feels very, very different.

He is apparent from here in Virginia!

What other info is out about him?

Honestly, spark plug bad built balding white guy screaming obscenities while pointing a loaded weapon at an unarmed woman could be any American middle-aged man.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kristi Noem accidentally doxxed him because she mentioned he was in a separate incident and people went straight to investigating.

Is there any way to hold him responsible? I know he has likely fled the state at the FBI will try to protect him...

If I was an ICE/BP agent, I'd be very scared for my family because people are going to start to take justice into their own hands...

Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who are comfortable antagonizing poorly trained, jacked up people with guns. It shouldn’t be this way but we’ve seen enough of police shooting people for me to wonder at the lack of self preservation.

If you’re gonna protest. Think about what you are doing. How you are doing it and what the possible outcomes might be. I know people will say it’s victim blaming but the only thing we can control is what we do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reported shooter is lucky. A search for Jonathan Ross still almost exclusively turns up hits for the UK comic and presenter.

I think today it sank in that he will face zero repercusiones and nothing is going to change. This feels like a new and accelerated time, because of the sheer willingness of the government to keep the arms flowing, married to the unwillingness to end sovereign immunity, money in politics, or seriously prosecuting insurrection and murder by state agents and politicians. For every humiliating Bob Menéndez trial, we have a Trump walking around and ruling or getting massive financial windfalls.

This isn’t Kent State. In 1970, you could not be tracked virtually round the clock and/or presumed to be a “terrorist” because you read a columnist or donate to the ACLU. This feels very, very different.

He is apparent from here in Virginia!