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Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

Because it’s an on-the-make US Attorney auditioning for a seat in the Senate. Doing so on the backs of parents who are guilty of loving their children.

The prosecutor reaps any whirlwind he sows. What goes around comes around.

Are you one of the parents involved in the scandal?

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Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

Because it’s an on-the-make US Attorney auditioning for a seat in the Senate. Doing so on the backs of parents who are guilty of loving their children.

The prosecutor reaps any whirlwind he sows. What goes around comes around.

Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

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Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

You should see the Scarsdale Moms page on FB. It’s quite the topic of conversation!

Who is the scarsdale mom?

I don’t think anyone from Westchester got caught up in the scandal, but Scarsdale parenting is like the DC area on steroids, so this investigation hits very close to home for them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the naysayers - can’t leave early: we’ll, if you revamp the exam to that one can, why not?. Those who stay behind - hey, that is a choice they made.

Are you naysayers saying you prefer the system today that openly discriminates the poorer kids, inner city kids, disabled kids who don’t the proper time accommodation and would prefer the current system that can be abused by wealthy families?

One of the naysayers here. Your proposal will strip any help from kids who actually need the accommodations. Now they’ll be competing head-to-head with the kids applying to Ivies. Sure, there’s abuse in the current system—so crack down on that, but don’t get rid of special accommodations completely.

PP again. The problem isn’t the accommodations. It’s UMC families cheating on accommodations and the lack of test tutoring for inner city kids. So fix those problems by cracking down on those who abuse accommodations and by providing tutoring to inner city kids. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water by getting rid of accommodations.

Kahn academy offers free SAT prep to everyone. You can link your PSAT scores to it and they will provide customized practice on the areas a student needs to work on.

My kids used Kahn Academy. It works really well unless you are one of the 60 million Americans without internet at home due to cost, or you live in a rural area without access to broadband.

https://www.recode.net/2017/6/20/15839626/disparity-between-urban-rural-internet-access-major-economies

Well here’s a newsflash....if you don’t care enough to find a way to access free resources then maybe you don’t belong at Harvard or other highly selective schools. The world needs truck drivers too.

Are you saying the free resources are remotely equivalent?

Yes they are. The only thing an expensive tutor gives you is accountability, which is important if you’re a feckless tw*t. My point is simple....if you’re some downtrodden poor that is brilliant and deserves to be admitted to Harvard then fine, go prove it by taking a bus to your local library and access free internet to prep with khan academy (which is excellent btw).

DP. Is this a joke, or are you for real? It sounds like you’re saying it’s fine if rich, feckless twits (edited) get into Harvard because they can buy tutors. But the smart “poors” should “prove it” by taking the bus to the library. Ugh....

DP: you are crazy. Someone here is obsessed with tutors...maybe get one for yourself and start making some sense?

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Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

You should see the Scarsdale Moms page on FB. It’s quite the topic of conversation!

Who is the scarsdale mom?

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Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

You should see the Scarsdale Moms page on FB. It’s quite the topic of conversation!

Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the naysayers - can’t leave early: we’ll, if you revamp the exam to that one can, why not?. Those who stay behind - hey, that is a choice they made.

Are you naysayers saying you prefer the system today that openly discriminates the poorer kids, inner city kids, disabled kids who don’t the proper time accommodation and would prefer the current system that can be abused by wealthy families?

This. Give everyone the same time and let the ones done early leave.

The TRULY exceptional kids can then brag that not only did they get a perfect score, they left with XXX hours to spare. They will take pride in not staying the entire time.

You don’t understand strivers. Plenty of kids in the TJ and Blair magnets will stay until the bitter end checking and re-checking their answers. Because their peers are and it’s an arms race. I had a kid in one of these places.

Meanwhile, kids with low processing speeds now have the same exact time as the Blair and TJ kids. Why is this helpful?

It is unlimited time. The extended time accommodations are not to give one a leg up over those who do not get them which u r implying they are. By removing time constraints, you would be removing the biggest abuse of the system and making it fairer to the poorer and inner city/rural kids. Kids who now get extended time accommodations would not be harmed by this.

So you go home at 10pm to sleep when the janitorial staff are closing the building, you look up the answers overnight, and then you return the next day all ready to ace the test? Or the school provides internet-free room and board for, what, up to a week, for test takers?

You are being deliberately obtuse. Today, are there more than 24 hours extended time accommodations? Or are u one of those w accommodations for your kid and it is giving them a leg up that u don’t want to give untimed tests to every kid?

I’m trying to *protect* accommodations from idiotic schemes like this one. You said time would be unlimited, now you’re implying there’s some time limit, but you’re being vague about it. Anyway you cut it, though, you’re not doing special needs kids any favors by giving them the same time limits as my magnet kid (I’m the pp above with the magnet kid).

My kid got into a top ivy without any accommodations, athletic, legacy, URM or development boosts. Just exceptional smarts and national-level talent in one of the arts

Then what are you afraid of? Kids who don't know the answers wont know them with extra time. But kids with disabilities unrelated to intelligence will be able to show what they know. Are you afraid of the competition?

+1000

extended time that is a second day does seem to allow some further prep overnight.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the naysayers - can’t leave early: we’ll, if you revamp the exam to that one can, why not?. Those who stay behind - hey, that is a choice they made.

Are you naysayers saying you prefer the system today that openly discriminates the poorer kids, inner city kids, disabled kids who don’t the proper time accommodation and would prefer the current system that can be abused by wealthy families?

This. Give everyone the same time and let the ones done early leave.

The TRULY exceptional kids can then brag that not only did they get a perfect score, they left with XXX hours to spare. They will take pride in not staying the entire time.

You don’t understand strivers. Plenty of kids in the TJ and Blair magnets will stay until the bitter end checking and re-checking their answers. Because their peers are and it’s an arms race. I had a kid in one of these places.

Meanwhile, kids with low processing speeds now have the same exact time as the Blair and TJ kids. Why is this helpful?

It is unlimited time. The extended time accommodations are not to give one a leg up over those who do not get them which u r implying they are. By removing time constraints, you would be removing the biggest abuse of the system and making it fairer to the poorer and inner city/rural kids. Kids who now get extended time accommodations would not be harmed by this.

So you go home at 10pm to sleep when the janitorial staff are closing the building, you look up the answers overnight, and then you return the next day all ready to ace the test? Or the school provides internet-free room and board for, what, up to a week, for test takers?

You are being deliberately obtuse. Today, are there more than 24 hours extended time accommodations? Or are u one of those w accommodations for your kid and it is giving them a leg up that u don’t want to give untimed tests to every kid?

I’m trying to *protect* accommodations from idiotic schemes like this one. You said time would be unlimited, now you’re implying there’s some time limit, but you’re being vague about it. Anyway you cut it, though, you’re not doing special needs kids any favors by giving them the same time limits as my magnet kid (I’m the pp above with the magnet kid).

My kid got into a top ivy without any accommodations, athletic, legacy, URM or development boosts. Just exceptional smarts and national-level talent in one of the arts

Then what are you afraid of? Kids who don't know the answers wont know them with extra time. But kids with disabilities unrelated to intelligence will be able to show what they know. Are you afraid of the competition?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the naysayers - can’t leave early: we’ll, if you revamp the exam to that one can, why not?. Those who stay behind - hey, that is a choice they made.

Are you naysayers saying you prefer the system today that openly discriminates the poorer kids, inner city kids, disabled kids who don’t the proper time accommodation and would prefer the current system that can be abused by wealthy families?

One of the naysayers here. Your proposal will strip any help from kids who actually need the accommodations. Now they’ll be competing head-to-head with the kids applying to Ivies. Sure, there’s abuse in the current system—so crack down on that, but don’t get rid of special accommodations completely.

PP again. The problem isn’t the accommodations. It’s UMC families cheating on accommodations and the lack of test tutoring for inner city kids. So fix those problems by cracking down on those who abuse accommodations and by providing tutoring to inner city kids. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water by getting rid of accommodations.

Kahn academy offers free SAT prep to everyone. You can link your PSAT scores to it and they will provide customized practice on the areas a student needs to work on.

My kids used Kahn Academy. It works really well unless you are one of the 60 million Americans without internet at home due to cost, or you live in a rural area without access to broadband.

https://www.recode.net/2017/6/20/15839626/disparity-between-urban-rural-internet-access-major-economies

Well here’s a newsflash....if you don’t care enough to find a way to access free resources then maybe you don’t belong at Harvard or other highly selective schools. The world needs truck drivers too.