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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This post is far too wise and rational for this thread.

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Lol I know, right?

Schumer shutdown, three branches smh

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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

+1

Where is Mitch?

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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of 2 out of the 3 branches. Technically it's Schumer who shut down the government.

McConnel's bill this week likewise will have the support of 2 out of the 3 branches (not counting filibuster).

When you have three parties that need to agree on one thing, and two out of the three agree, logically it is the one who disagrees should get the blame.

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Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This post is far too wise and rational for this thread.

A

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Anonymous wrote:What happens to healthcare if paychecks are held hostage?

LOL, you’ll never see the cries for capitulation come so fast if some old Dems think they’ll have to miss a doctor’s appointment!

So you'd be ok being uninsured and your kids being uninsured? Having a medical emergency while uninsured could be financially catastrophic. I doubt the question was about missing an appointment.

This story about an air traffic controller who might have to pay hefty bills for his prematurely born child because of the shutdown is troubling
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20190118/Furloughed-fedse28099-health-coverage-intact-but-shutdown-still-complicates-things.aspx

Hmm I would have thought the shutdown would be the perfect time to have a child. Unlimited leave and for many - it’s going to be paid!

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

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Anonymous wrote:The ball is in Nancy’s court now. Make a reasonable offer in response. Cut it to 1 or 2 billion and make him agree to an increase in the minimum wage. Sound nothing in the hope that Trump will just go away is not a solution.

Offer 50 billion for a israeli style southern border for israeli style national health care system.

If Jared really cares about the US as much as he does about israel, he should be highly supportive of this.

That’s a clown comment.

Anonymous wrote:The shutdown will be over by Friday. Trump will cave, declare victory, and his minions won't know the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:The ball is in Nancy’s court now. Make a reasonable offer in response. Cut it to 1 or 2 billion and make him agree to an increase in the minimum wage. Sound nothing in the hope that Trump will just go away is not a solution.

Offer 50 billion for a israeli style southern border for israeli style national health care system.

If Jared really cares about the US as much as he does about israel, he should be highly supportive of this.

Anonymous wrote:The ball is in Nancy’s court now. Make a reasonable offer in response. Cut it to 1 or 2 billion and make him agree to an increase in the minimum wage. Sound nothing in the hope that Trump will just go away is not a solution.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens to healthcare if paychecks are held hostage?

LOL, you’ll never see the cries for capitulation come so fast if some old Dems think they’ll have to miss a doctor’s appointment!

So you'd be ok being uninsured and your kids being uninsured? Having a medical emergency while uninsured could be financially catastrophic. I doubt the question was about missing an appointment.

This story about an air traffic controller who might have to pay hefty bills for his prematurely born child because of the shutdown is troubling
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20190118/Furloughed-fedse28099-health-coverage-intact-but-shutdown-still-complicates-things.aspx

Hmm I would have thought the shutdown would be the perfect time to have a child. Unlimited leave and for many - it’s going to be paid!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happens to healthcare if paychecks are held hostage?

LOL, you’ll never see the cries for capitulation come so fast if some old Dems think they’ll have to miss a doctor’s appointment!

So you'd be ok being uninsured and your kids being uninsured? Having a medical emergency while uninsured could be financially catastrophic. I doubt the question was about missing an appointment.

This story about an air traffic controller who might have to pay hefty bills for his prematurely born child because of the shutdown is troubling
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20190118/Furloughed-fedse28099-health-coverage-intact-but-shutdown-still-complicates-things.aspx

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happens to healthcare if paychecks are held hostage?

LOL, you’ll never see the cries for capitulation come so fast if some old Dems think they’ll have to miss a doctor’s appointment!

So you'd be ok being uninsured and your kids being uninsured? Having a medical emergency while uninsured could be financially catastrophic. I doubt the question was about missing an appointment.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the March for Life, speakers talked about shutting down the Govt. over Planned Parenthood. If Dems give in to this, Individual One will do it again and again over his pet issues. Open the Govt. then negotiate about wall funding.

+1

Trump couldn’t figure out how to negotiate legislation like an adult so he’s bullying the whole country.

If he wants to negotiate immigration, then do that. It has NOTHING to do with a furlough.

Negotiate? I don't see democrats negotiating. They want things their way all the time. Not this time.

Negotiation while someone holds hostage is called extortion.

Can we eventually sue Trump and GOP for extortion? Asking for a friend!?

Your friend should sue Schumer or Pelosi first.

We have three branches of government that must all agree to pass a funding bill.

1) President

2) House

3) Senate (60 votes)

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of both the president and the house. It probably had the majority support in the senate as well. But Chuck Schumer filibustered it (It needs 60 votes to break a filibuster). So the December shutdown is clearly a Schumer shutdown.

McConnell will bring another bill this week that -- 1) the president will sign and 3) the majority of the senate will support but may not be enough to break the 60-vote filibuster, but 2) Pelosi will not be on board.

Democrats only hold one of the three branches. They need to compromise a little.

This is patently incorrect. It's a Trump/McConnell shutdown. Not a Schumer shutdown.

This. McConnell won’t negotiate and Trump is holding the government hostage. What is there to compromise on? A wall
is a non starter for Dems, though they are willing and have proposed funding to amp up border security. Trump only wants a wall. His vanity project.

A bill was in the works in December and it was TRUMP who said he’d veto it - then McConnell folded and has essentially gone into hiding. This is all Trump and all the GOP.

Paul Ryan's bill had the support of 2 out of the 3 branches. Technically it's Schumer who shut down the government.

McConnel's bill this week likewise will have the support of 2 out of the 3 branches (not counting filibuster).

When you have three parties that need to agree on one thing, and two out of the three agree, logically it is the one who disagrees should get the blame.