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Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party, but didn't Chelsea kind of turn things around? I haven't watched in awhile.

Yep. Married someone else and seems to be in a loving stable marriage that is not dependent on MTV income -- I believe he's an engineer; I think has 3 kids with him, 4 total -- he treats her kid just like his own first kid. They just built a huge custom home together. And then after like 11-12 seasons she said enough and is off MTV; likely MTV wanted her off too because her life is really pretty conventional and boring now just like every suburban family in America. She didn't keep the drama going in her life just to stay relevant to MTV.

Good for her.

I hope the others can break free.

Didn't Chelsea and her husband get some other TV show?

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Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh and Ryan (Maci's ex) and Mackenzie are getting divorced.

I can't believe this didn't happen sooner.

She talked so much trash about Maci, she had to hang on for a respectable amount of time.

She'll be 26, divorced, mother of two children she shares with a drug addict/former reality TV star.

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Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh and Ryan (Maci's ex) and Mackenzie are getting divorced.

I can't believe this didn't happen sooner.

She talked so much trash about Maci, she had to hang on for a respectable amount of time.

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh and Ryan (Maci's ex) and Mackenzie are getting divorced.

I can't believe this didn't happen sooner.

Ahhhh and Ryan (Maci's ex) and Mackenzie are getting divorced.

Kailyn Lowry had her 5th boy secretly in November. She clearly wants a girl and that is why she keeps on having babies. When will enough be enough? She clearly has issues. I feel sorry for her boys.

Anonymous wrote:Reminds me of Kate Gosselin who was still trying to get on TV well into the 2010s.

2010s? She was on TV last month in a military style reality show. I can't remember the name. She failed out in the first episode.

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Anonymous wrote:So Farrah Abraham's daughter Sophia just turned 14 and Farrah let her get a bunch of piercings in her face for the occasion. Apparently she was going to get a few more but the piercer talked Sophia out of some?

Farrah claims she's a good mother to allow Sophia to express herself this way, because it's better than what other teenagers are doing like drinking, drugs, etc. It's as if Farrah doesn't know there are teenagers who aren't putting holes all over their faces OR using drugs or drinking. Like, she can't fathom that.

Sophia looks totally messed up.

Now that these kids are teenagers, any guesses who will become the first parent? I'm going to guess Leah's daughter Aleeah being that she's from West Virginia.

You’re gross.

Reminds me of Kate Gosselin who was still trying to get on TV well into the 2010s.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party, but didn't Chelsea kind of turn things around? I haven't watched in awhile.

Yep. Married someone else and seems to be in a loving stable marriage that is not dependent on MTV income -- I believe he's an engineer; I think has 3 kids with him, 4 total -- he treats her kid just like his own first kid. They just built a huge custom home together. And then after like 11-12 seasons she said enough and is off MTV; likely MTV wanted her off too because her life is really pretty conventional and boring now just like every suburban family in America. She didn't keep the drama going in her life just to stay relevant to MTV.

Good for her.

I hope the others can break free.

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Anonymous wrote:So Farrah Abraham's daughter Sophia just turned 14 and Farrah let her get a bunch of piercings in her face for the occasion. Apparently she was going to get a few more but the piercer talked Sophia out of some?

Farrah claims she's a good mother to allow Sophia to express herself this way, because it's better than what other teenagers are doing like drinking, drugs, etc. It's as if Farrah doesn't know there are teenagers who aren't putting holes all over their faces OR using drugs or drinking. Like, she can't fathom that.

Sophia looks totally messed up.

Now that these kids are teenagers, any guesses who will become the first parent? I'm going to guess Leah's daughter Aleeah being that she's from West Virginia.

Anonymous wrote:So Farrah Abraham's daughter Sophia just turned 14 and Farrah let her get a bunch of piercings in her face for the occasion. Apparently she was going to get a few more but the piercer talked Sophia out of some?

Farrah claims she's a good mother to allow Sophia to express herself this way, because it's better than what other teenagers are doing like drinking, drugs, etc. It's as if Farrah doesn't know there are teenagers who aren't putting holes all over their faces OR using drugs or drinking. Like, she can't fathom that.

Sophia looks totally messed up.

Anonymous wrote:So Farrah Abraham's daughter Sophia just turned 14 and Farrah let her get a bunch of piercings in her face for the occasion. Apparently she was going to get a few more but the piercer talked Sophia out of some?

Farrah claims she's a good mother to allow Sophia to express herself this way, because it's better than what other teenagers are doing like drinking, drugs, etc. It's as if Farrah doesn't know there are teenagers who aren't putting holes all over their faces OR using drugs or drinking. Like, she can't fathom that.

Right, because you can't do both drugs and get piercings. She's a POS.

So Farrah Abraham's daughter Sophia just turned 14 and Farrah let her get a bunch of piercings in her face for the occasion. Apparently she was going to get a few more but the piercer talked Sophia out of some?

Farrah claims she's a good mother to allow Sophia to express herself this way, because it's better than what other teenagers are doing like drinking, drugs, etc. It's as if Farrah doesn't know there are teenagers who aren't putting holes all over their faces OR using drugs or drinking. Like, she can't fathom that.

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Anonymous wrote:Are any of these people actually equipped to be parents? They all have their own brand of toxicity and baggage.

Kailyn seems like she has major narcissistic tendencies.

Amber, a violent, under-treated bipolar.

Maci has Ryan and his enabling family.

Cate and Tyler? Jenelle? Leah? Don’t get me started.

I think Maci is doing the best of all of them. Sure, Bentley has to deal with ... well, being named Bentley, AND Ryan. But he's got a guy who seems like a good stepfather and I think things are okay for him. His life is focused on school, sports, siblings, and Ryan and MTV filming are just things he does on the side.

I think Bentley probably has the best shot at a "normal" healthy adulthood, will go to college, and hopefully not have any children until he's ready. His parents though were one of the most financially stable couples (Ryan was a diesel mechanic and had graduated HS) to start with. Their story was painted more of a high school sweethearts started their family early, and they planned to get married.

I think Gary has had the most maturity and sharpest rise. He and Amber were from lower-middle income families, not a lot of education all around. But Gary remained the stable parent for Leah whiloe Amber went off the rails, married his wife (who treats Leah like her own), had just one more child, and operates their lovely hobby farm. He's also bought some homes for rental income. Smart. He's not a genius, but he's a good dude and it's nice to see his little family doing well. Leah will do okay in life because of his guidance.