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Anonymous wrote:The idea that this was nature is false. The fires spread due to failed politics and policies. Residents in California paying the highest property taxes in the country should not resort to using pool water to extinguish fires because city and state officials ran out on Day 3. The governor standing ocean side to announce a lack of water in the state is embarrassing.

You are right. It was cause by electrical power line not being protected against high wind hazards. That regulation is claimed to be too expensive by the power companies.

The housing stock is still mostly build of timber, single family track. Regulation forcing people to retrofit during renovations to more fire resistant buildings have been killed because it would cost too much. Cleaning vegetation away from houses is seen as an invasion of private property rights. You know government regulations.

The state insurance companies were not allow new zoning based on projected fire hazard- ie climate change. Your area would have to have a fire before rates could be changed and more expensive fire proofs required. Again cost regulations.

This was caused by the resistants to regulations and the low property taxes driven by republicans in the state. When ranking property tax from lowest to highest California comes in 19th. Virginia is 24th. Texas is 46th(oh they get you in Texas)
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The water tank situation would happen anywhere tanks are used. The demand for water was too high and pressure could not be maintained to fill the tanks back up. That was after 3 days of fighting the fire. How many fires in a suburb area burn for three days? They could have built another salt water fire system but it would be too expensive. It would have to be maintained and pressurized from ground level.

Look this is what republicans means by doing away with regulations, government rules and cutting taxes.

Whose idea said that? Video?
Arsonists were arrested and videoed starting fires

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Anonymous wrote:People don't seem to understand that Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills, and Malibu are not at all normal neighborhoods in need of policy solutions that would address 99.9% of the rest of the country. These are ultra luxury houses owned by people who can either cover the cost of replacement without much trouble or people who have lived there long enough to be locked into extremely low public tax rates and affordable home insurance. They could have used their savings from taxes over the years to buy additional insurance or put that money into accounts for savings or to cover unexpected costs like these.

California's governors and mayors should also have been planning for emergencies and the priority of needed public safety measures. The results of poor leadership and planning are on display.

Actually California is top in the nation for emergency preparedness due to the climate changing and geography. There are fights between developers and the state about building on coastal bluffs that fall into the ocean. There are fights between people who own houses teetering on coastal bluffs that want to stay.

Climate change sucks. A lot more of the US and world is going to be destroyed.

The Santa Anna winds have been around since the beginning of time. Dirty politicians have not, that's where the blame lies.

It hasn't rained in LA in 8 months. That is not normal

So the potential for catastrophic fires should have been noted by leaders in govt.

Do you think the state of California should be watering forests and scrubland? The potential was noted and there were warnings

Increase water reservoirs? Increase number of firefighters and equipment? Take other helpful measures? Not ask for budget cuts? Not be absent and traveling?

Would a public spanking by Daddy Trump suffice to end your braying? Y'all hate taxes.....remember?

Why is Trump always brought up as a defense? I agree with this post and I never voted for him and can't stand him. And people in LA/CA pay plenty of taxes.

Because NONE of what the OP is suggesting would've mattered in the face of 100mph Santa Ana winds and no rain for 8 months. Those are acts of god. You could've doubled the LAFD budget, bought 100 more engines, open 3 new reservoirs China-style in 3 months....and it would not have mattered. At all.

How is this not sinking into your skulls? It was biblical.

-SoCal born & raised

This is simply untrue. You do not know better than firefighters, local officials interviewed who said there were shortages of trucks, limits on overtime, not enough resources allocated to respond optimally, that the infrastructure is old. It would not have stopped the winds but it would have helped the response.

Holy crap, they do PREPARE. They prepared. Were there limits on overtime this week? Uh no. They recalled all firefighters who were off-duty. They actually do preventative brush clearing in all of these communities to the best of their abilities.

You're basically demanding an unlimited budget....yet you all hate taxes. Nothing you says makes any logical sense.

Lies. They didn’t do this. They said Trump is stupid for even suggesting it. I was literally just in pacific palisades on vacation and kindling was everywhere

This! People in LA used to make fun of Trump for bringing up the lack of controlled burns.

It’s almost like he’s correct about everything.

The recent LA fires are not in a forest so this is not an issue of land management. The fires were set by arsonists and the wind made it impossible to control. This fire event was not caused by excessive fuels.

In fact, excessive fuels couldve solved the fire event. Deforestation/burning dead trees, dead leaves, and dry brush is needed just like Native Americans used to do but the environmentalists are against burning a dead leaf.

Dead trees/dry brush are as dry as a match. They're dangerous. It's weird how its expected to cut your grass and mow your lawn or garden yet these lefties dont think an actual forest needs fueling/removal of dead fall.

Fish were given all of the water and ice melt from Vancouver, not LA County because according to Newsom and his party, the Pacific Ocean's fish needs the water more than drought-prone Southern Cal residents.

This has been debunked repeatedly.

This thread is a dumpster fire.

It’s not debunked. People don’t want to admit Trump was right and Newsom was wrong. Controlled burns, deforestation, desalination plants, collecting ice melt and rain water are valuable steps to avoid disaster and billions in damage. Why should the lives of trees and fish take precedence over human life and property?

Yea it has been debunked. These recent LA fires were in chaparral scrub NOT forests. This was not due to excessive fuels. This was arson and winds and drought.

This is kindling. Without it fires can’t spread

I live a few hrs from LA so drove up there this past wknd.

Fortunately the fires are all mostly contained.

Plus the freeways (405/5) were free + clear.

I took some photos from Hollywood but chose not to share them w/anyone as not to exploit the victims.

But there is a lot of rebuilding that needs to be done. 🙏🏽

You realize it’s raining in LA. The aqueduct Dumpie is talking about doesn’t run to LA . The reservoirs are full. If for some stupid reason anyone listened to idiot MAGA and overfilled the reservoirs, you would get floods and mudslides.

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Anonymous wrote:WOW trump just ordered the military to circumvent california's water protection laws to get water flowing to the fire areas. AMAZING!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/01/27/trump-executive-order-california-wildfires-water-management/77971910007/

You are so dumb.

wow you can't take the winning can you?

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Anonymous wrote:WOW trump just ordered the military to circumvent california's water protection laws to get water flowing to the fire areas. AMAZING!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/01/27/trump-executive-order-california-wildfires-water-management/77971910007/

You are so dumb.

wow you can't take the winning can you?

Anonymous wrote:WOW trump just ordered the military to circumvent california's water protection laws to get water flowing to the fire areas. AMAZING!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/01/27/trump-executive-order-california-wildfires-water-management/77971910007/

You are so dumb.

WOW trump just ordered the military to circumvent california's water protection laws to get water flowing to the fire areas. AMAZING!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/01/27/trump-executive-order-california-wildfires-water-management/77971910007/

Anonymous wrote:The idea that this was nature is false. The fires spread due to failed politics and policies. Residents in California paying the highest property taxes in the country should not resort to using pool water to extinguish fires because city and state officials ran out on Day 3. The governor standing ocean side to announce a lack of water in the state is embarrassing.

You are right. It was cause by electrical power line not being protected against high wind hazards. That regulation is claimed to be too expensive by the power companies.

The housing stock is still mostly build of timber, single family track. Regulation forcing people to retrofit during renovations to more fire resistant buildings have been killed because it would cost too much. Cleaning vegetation away from houses is seen as an invasion of private property rights. You know government regulations.

The state insurance companies were not allow new zoning based on projected fire hazard- ie climate change. Your area would have to have a fire before rates could be changed and more expensive fire proofs required. Again cost regulations.

This was caused by the resistants to regulations and the low property taxes driven by republicans in the state. When ranking property tax from lowest to highest California comes in 19th. Virginia is 24th. Texas is 46th(oh they get you in Texas)
.

The water tank situation would happen anywhere tanks are used. The demand for water was too high and pressure could not be maintained to fill the tanks back up. That was after 3 days of fighting the fire. How many fires in a suburb area burn for three days? They could have built another salt water fire system but it would be too expensive. It would have to be maintained and pressurized from ground level.

Look this is what republicans means by doing away with regulations, government rules and cutting taxes.

Flying monkeys

The idea that this was nature is false. The fires spread due to failed politics and policies. Residents in California paying the highest property taxes in the country should not resort to using pool water to extinguish fires because city and state officials ran out on Day 3. The governor standing ocean side to announce a lack of water in the state is embarrassing.

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Anonymous wrote:People don't seem to understand that Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills, and Malibu are not at all normal neighborhoods in need of policy solutions that would address 99.9% of the rest of the country. These are ultra luxury houses owned by people who can either cover the cost of replacement without much trouble or people who have lived there long enough to be locked into extremely low public tax rates and affordable home insurance. They could have used their savings from taxes over the years to buy additional insurance or put that money into accounts for savings or to cover unexpected costs like these.

California's governors and mayors should also have been planning for emergencies and the priority of needed public safety measures. The results of poor leadership and planning are on display.

Actually California is top in the nation for emergency preparedness due to the climate changing and geography. There are fights between developers and the state about building on coastal bluffs that fall into the ocean. There are fights between people who own houses teetering on coastal bluffs that want to stay.

Climate change sucks. A lot more of the US and world is going to be destroyed.

The Santa Anna winds have been around since the beginning of time. Dirty politicians have not, that's where the blame lies.

It hasn't rained in LA in 8 months. That is not normal

So the potential for catastrophic fires should have been noted by leaders in govt.

Do you think the state of California should be watering forests and scrubland? The potential was noted and there were warnings

Increase water reservoirs? Increase number of firefighters and equipment? Take other helpful measures? Not ask for budget cuts? Not be absent and traveling?

Would a public spanking by Daddy Trump suffice to end your braying? Y'all hate taxes.....remember?

Why is Trump always brought up as a defense? I agree with this post and I never voted for him and can't stand him. And people in LA/CA pay plenty of taxes.

Because NONE of what the OP is suggesting would've mattered in the face of 100mph Santa Ana winds and no rain for 8 months. Those are acts of god. You could've doubled the LAFD budget, bought 100 more engines, open 3 new reservoirs China-style in 3 months....and it would not have mattered. At all.

How is this not sinking into your skulls? It was biblical.

-SoCal born & raised

This is simply untrue. You do not know better than firefighters, local officials interviewed who said there were shortages of trucks, limits on overtime, not enough resources allocated to respond optimally, that the infrastructure is old. It would not have stopped the winds but it would have helped the response.

Holy crap, they do PREPARE. They prepared. Were there limits on overtime this week? Uh no. They recalled all firefighters who were off-duty. They actually do preventative brush clearing in all of these communities to the best of their abilities.

You're basically demanding an unlimited budget....yet you all hate taxes. Nothing you says makes any logical sense.

Lies. They didn’t do this. They said Trump is stupid for even suggesting it. I was literally just in pacific palisades on vacation and kindling was everywhere

This! People in LA used to make fun of Trump for bringing up the lack of controlled burns.

It’s almost like he’s correct about everything.

The recent LA fires are not in a forest so this is not an issue of land management. The fires were set by arsonists and the wind made it impossible to control. This fire event was not caused by excessive fuels.

In fact, excessive fuels couldve solved the fire event. Deforestation/burning dead trees, dead leaves, and dry brush is needed just like Native Americans used to do but the environmentalists are against burning a dead leaf.

Dead trees/dry brush are as dry as a match. They're dangerous. It's weird how its expected to cut your grass and mow your lawn or garden yet these lefties dont think an actual forest needs fueling/removal of dead fall.

Fish were given all of the water and ice melt from Vancouver, not LA County because according to Newsom and his party, the Pacific Ocean's fish needs the water more than drought-prone Southern Cal residents.

This has been debunked repeatedly.

This thread is a dumpster fire.

It’s not debunked. People don’t want to admit Trump was right and Newsom was wrong. Controlled burns, deforestation, desalination plants, collecting ice melt and rain water are valuable steps to avoid disaster and billions in damage. Why should the lives of trees and fish take precedence over human life and property?

Yea it has been debunked. These recent LA fires were in chaparral scrub NOT forests. This was not due to excessive fuels. This was arson and winds and drought.

Explain the lack of water in the freaking ocean view Palisades. Newsom was anti desalination. Ocean water would be a miracle for California and its a no brainer. In every desert, desalination of nearby water is done. It's common sense but Newsom was more concerned about disturbing the fish than he was helping California firefighters

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Anonymous wrote:People don't seem to understand that Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills, and Malibu are not at all normal neighborhoods in need of policy solutions that would address 99.9% of the rest of the country. These are ultra luxury houses owned by people who can either cover the cost of replacement without much trouble or people who have lived there long enough to be locked into extremely low public tax rates and affordable home insurance. They could have used their savings from taxes over the years to buy additional insurance or put that money into accounts for savings or to cover unexpected costs like these.

California's governors and mayors should also have been planning for emergencies and the priority of needed public safety measures. The results of poor leadership and planning are on display.

Actually California is top in the nation for emergency preparedness due to the climate changing and geography. There are fights between developers and the state about building on coastal bluffs that fall into the ocean. There are fights between people who own houses teetering on coastal bluffs that want to stay.

Climate change sucks. A lot more of the US and world is going to be destroyed.

The Santa Anna winds have been around since the beginning of time. Dirty politicians have not, that's where the blame lies.

It hasn't rained in LA in 8 months. That is not normal

So the potential for catastrophic fires should have been noted by leaders in govt.

Do you think the state of California should be watering forests and scrubland? The potential was noted and there were warnings

Increase water reservoirs? Increase number of firefighters and equipment? Take other helpful measures? Not ask for budget cuts? Not be absent and traveling?

Would a public spanking by Daddy Trump suffice to end your braying? Y'all hate taxes.....remember?

Why is Trump always brought up as a defense? I agree with this post and I never voted for him and can't stand him. And people in LA/CA pay plenty of taxes.

Because NONE of what the OP is suggesting would've mattered in the face of 100mph Santa Ana winds and no rain for 8 months. Those are acts of god. You could've doubled the LAFD budget, bought 100 more engines, open 3 new reservoirs China-style in 3 months....and it would not have mattered. At all.

How is this not sinking into your skulls? It was biblical.

-SoCal born & raised

This is simply untrue. You do not know better than firefighters, local officials interviewed who said there were shortages of trucks, limits on overtime, not enough resources allocated to respond optimally, that the infrastructure is old. It would not have stopped the winds but it would have helped the response.

Holy crap, they do PREPARE. They prepared. Were there limits on overtime this week? Uh no. They recalled all firefighters who were off-duty. They actually do preventative brush clearing in all of these communities to the best of their abilities.

You're basically demanding an unlimited budget....yet you all hate taxes. Nothing you says makes any logical sense.

Lies. They didn’t do this. They said Trump is stupid for even suggesting it. I was literally just in pacific palisades on vacation and kindling was everywhere

This! People in LA used to make fun of Trump for bringing up the lack of controlled burns.

It’s almost like he’s correct about everything.

The recent LA fires are not in a forest so this is not an issue of land management. The fires were set by arsonists and the wind made it impossible to control. This fire event was not caused by excessive fuels.

In fact, excessive fuels couldve solved the fire event. Deforestation/burning dead trees, dead leaves, and dry brush is needed just like Native Americans used to do but the environmentalists are against burning a dead leaf.

Dead trees/dry brush are as dry as a match. They're dangerous. It's weird how its expected to cut your grass and mow your lawn or garden yet these lefties dont think an actual forest needs fueling/removal of dead fall.

Fish were given all of the water and ice melt from Vancouver, not LA County because according to Newsom and his party, the Pacific Ocean's fish needs the water more than drought-prone Southern Cal residents.

This has been debunked repeatedly.

This thread is a dumpster fire.

It’s not debunked. People don’t want to admit Trump was right and Newsom was wrong. Controlled burns, deforestation, desalination plants, collecting ice melt and rain water are valuable steps to avoid disaster and billions in damage. Why should the lives of trees and fish take precedence over human life and property?

Yea it has been debunked. These recent LA fires were in chaparral scrub NOT forests. This was not due to excessive fuels. This was arson and winds and drought.

There were some fires in the forests (well what they consider forest there) and some in the residential area. They couldn’t do anything to stop the residential fires because some of the firefighters were busy fighting the other fires and there was NO WATER in the palisades to fight the fires with. Except the pool water which some homeowners luckily did use to save their own homes but not enough.

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Anonymous wrote:People don't seem to understand that Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills, and Malibu are not at all normal neighborhoods in need of policy solutions that would address 99.9% of the rest of the country. These are ultra luxury houses owned by people who can either cover the cost of replacement without much trouble or people who have lived there long enough to be locked into extremely low public tax rates and affordable home insurance. They could have used their savings from taxes over the years to buy additional insurance or put that money into accounts for savings or to cover unexpected costs like these.

California's governors and mayors should also have been planning for emergencies and the priority of needed public safety measures. The results of poor leadership and planning are on display.

Actually California is top in the nation for emergency preparedness due to the climate changing and geography. There are fights between developers and the state about building on coastal bluffs that fall into the ocean. There are fights between people who own houses teetering on coastal bluffs that want to stay.

Climate change sucks. A lot more of the US and world is going to be destroyed.

The Santa Anna winds have been around since the beginning of time. Dirty politicians have not, that's where the blame lies.

It hasn't rained in LA in 8 months. That is not normal

So the potential for catastrophic fires should have been noted by leaders in govt.

Do you think the state of California should be watering forests and scrubland? The potential was noted and there were warnings

Increase water reservoirs? Increase number of firefighters and equipment? Take other helpful measures? Not ask for budget cuts? Not be absent and traveling?

Would a public spanking by Daddy Trump suffice to end your braying? Y'all hate taxes.....remember?

Why is Trump always brought up as a defense? I agree with this post and I never voted for him and can't stand him. And people in LA/CA pay plenty of taxes.

Because NONE of what the OP is suggesting would've mattered in the face of 100mph Santa Ana winds and no rain for 8 months. Those are acts of god. You could've doubled the LAFD budget, bought 100 more engines, open 3 new reservoirs China-style in 3 months....and it would not have mattered. At all.

How is this not sinking into your skulls? It was biblical.

-SoCal born & raised

This is simply untrue. You do not know better than firefighters, local officials interviewed who said there were shortages of trucks, limits on overtime, not enough resources allocated to respond optimally, that the infrastructure is old. It would not have stopped the winds but it would have helped the response.

Holy crap, they do PREPARE. They prepared. Were there limits on overtime this week? Uh no. They recalled all firefighters who were off-duty. They actually do preventative brush clearing in all of these communities to the best of their abilities.

You're basically demanding an unlimited budget....yet you all hate taxes. Nothing you says makes any logical sense.

Lies. They didn’t do this. They said Trump is stupid for even suggesting it. I was literally just in pacific palisades on vacation and kindling was everywhere

This! People in LA used to make fun of Trump for bringing up the lack of controlled burns.

It’s almost like he’s correct about everything.

The recent LA fires are not in a forest so this is not an issue of land management. The fires were set by arsonists and the wind made it impossible to control. This fire event was not caused by excessive fuels.

In fact, excessive fuels couldve solved the fire event. Deforestation/burning dead trees, dead leaves, and dry brush is needed just like Native Americans used to do but the environmentalists are against burning a dead leaf.

Dead trees/dry brush are as dry as a match. They're dangerous. It's weird how its expected to cut your grass and mow your lawn or garden yet these lefties dont think an actual forest needs fueling/removal of dead fall.

Fish were given all of the water and ice melt from Vancouver, not LA County because according to Newsom and his party, the Pacific Ocean's fish needs the water more than drought-prone Southern Cal residents.

This has been debunked repeatedly.

This thread is a dumpster fire.

It’s not debunked. People don’t want to admit Trump was right and Newsom was wrong. Controlled burns, deforestation, desalination plants, collecting ice melt and rain water are valuable steps to avoid disaster and billions in damage. Why should the lives of trees and fish take precedence over human life and property?

Yea it has been debunked. These recent LA fires were in chaparral scrub NOT forests. This was not due to excessive fuels. This was arson and winds and drought.

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Anonymous wrote:People don't seem to understand that Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills, and Malibu are not at all normal neighborhoods in need of policy solutions that would address 99.9% of the rest of the country. These are ultra luxury houses owned by people who can either cover the cost of replacement without much trouble or people who have lived there long enough to be locked into extremely low public tax rates and affordable home insurance. They could have used their savings from taxes over the years to buy additional insurance or put that money into accounts for savings or to cover unexpected costs like these.

California's governors and mayors should also have been planning for emergencies and the priority of needed public safety measures. The results of poor leadership and planning are on display.

Actually California is top in the nation for emergency preparedness due to the climate changing and geography. There are fights between developers and the state about building on coastal bluffs that fall into the ocean. There are fights between people who own houses teetering on coastal bluffs that want to stay.

Climate change sucks. A lot more of the US and world is going to be destroyed.

The Santa Anna winds have been around since the beginning of time. Dirty politicians have not, that's where the blame lies.

It hasn't rained in LA in 8 months. That is not normal

So the potential for catastrophic fires should have been noted by leaders in govt.

Do you think the state of California should be watering forests and scrubland? The potential was noted and there were warnings

Increase water reservoirs? Increase number of firefighters and equipment? Take other helpful measures? Not ask for budget cuts? Not be absent and traveling?

Would a public spanking by Daddy Trump suffice to end your braying? Y'all hate taxes.....remember?

Why is Trump always brought up as a defense? I agree with this post and I never voted for him and can't stand him. And people in LA/CA pay plenty of taxes.

Because NONE of what the OP is suggesting would've mattered in the face of 100mph Santa Ana winds and no rain for 8 months. Those are acts of god. You could've doubled the LAFD budget, bought 100 more engines, open 3 new reservoirs China-style in 3 months....and it would not have mattered. At all.

How is this not sinking into your skulls? It was biblical.

-SoCal born & raised

This is simply untrue. You do not know better than firefighters, local officials interviewed who said there were shortages of trucks, limits on overtime, not enough resources allocated to respond optimally, that the infrastructure is old. It would not have stopped the winds but it would have helped the response.

Holy crap, they do PREPARE. They prepared. Were there limits on overtime this week? Uh no. They recalled all firefighters who were off-duty. They actually do preventative brush clearing in all of these communities to the best of their abilities.

You're basically demanding an unlimited budget....yet you all hate taxes. Nothing you says makes any logical sense.

Lies. They didn’t do this. They said Trump is stupid for even suggesting it. I was literally just in pacific palisades on vacation and kindling was everywhere

This! People in LA used to make fun of Trump for bringing up the lack of controlled burns.

It’s almost like he’s correct about everything.

The recent LA fires are not in a forest so this is not an issue of land management. The fires were set by arsonists and the wind made it impossible to control. This fire event was not caused by excessive fuels.

In fact, excessive fuels couldve solved the fire event. Deforestation/burning dead trees, dead leaves, and dry brush is needed just like Native Americans used to do but the environmentalists are against burning a dead leaf.

Dead trees/dry brush are as dry as a match. They're dangerous. It's weird how its expected to cut your grass and mow your lawn or garden yet these lefties dont think an actual forest needs fueling/removal of dead fall.

Fish were given all of the water and ice melt from Vancouver, not LA County because according to Newsom and his party, the Pacific Ocean's fish needs the water more than drought-prone Southern Cal residents.

This has been debunked repeatedly.

This thread is a dumpster fire.

It’s not debunked. People don’t want to admit Trump was right and Newsom was wrong. Controlled burns, deforestation, desalination plants, collecting ice melt and rain water are valuable steps to avoid disaster and billions in damage. Why should the lives of trees and fish take precedence over human life and property?

You again? Go back to Newsmax