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Anonymous wrote:It will not go to trial if they have the goods on him. There is no point. He will get sentenced. He is falling under the eo13818. Forwarding imagery of naked minors is a Federal offense. He needs to plea and do what he can to avoid harming his family. Asset seizure is something on the table. Draining family resources to pay a lawyer to fight this is not helping his situation.

Sounds like there may not be many assets there since they were being kicked out of a rental and he's using a public defender.

Read the thread, low info poster.

The landlord wants to re-possess and occupy the property. The action is NOT for non-payment.

Public defenders are common in these cases, see Eleanor Hoppe thread. They are also very experienced.

Public defenders are not common for these cases unless the defendant is living in poverty which JC is obviously not. There’s an entire cottage industry of attorneys in the DC area that represent accused pedophiles with little notice on far lighter charges than these.

Maybe that is the source of your confusion. Not in federal court. Again, look at Hoppe case.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that ALL schools should require comprehensive background checks for every staff member AGAIN urgently, with frequent regular updates in future to ensure the information is current. This process would also help prevent individuals with problematic histories from applying for these positions in the future. Problem solved.

Background checks are necessary, but not sufficient. Everyone, parents, volunteers, teachers, admin, facilities staff, security, etc., need training like youth sports organizations and Catholic schools do, so the whole community knows what to look for and is watching all the time. Kids too. When my (now adult) kids were little they had age appropriate training about boundaries and safe behaviors every year. The Catholic Church has a K-8 program called Circle of Grace, a curriculum that teaches children how to identify and maintain safe boundaries, and how to respond when those boundaries are violated, it covers everything from keeping your hands to yourself in preschool, to bullying in elementary school, to sex trafficking in upper middle school. Secular training models are likely out there too.

Citing the Catholic Church training on how to prevent sexual exploitation is…something.

The Catholic Church has been legally required to develop effective mandatory reporting training due to the many lawsuits they have settled. It’s very similar and in some ways even better than what public school employees and staff are required to do. I’ve done both and highly recommend one or both.

NP here. For similar reasons, the Boy Scouts of America's sexual exploitation training was more rigorous than the training I did for a DMV public school system. The training models aren't rocket science but they're still important. They exist to create a culture of accountability that goes beyond background checks.

Curious how these trainings might have applied in this case? Whether it's the Boy Scouts or the Catholic schools training, what would people have been trained to recognize that would have outed Carroll sooner?

(DP) It's a lot of things all rolled into one. Communal awareness of behaviors, creating a culture of speaking up when something seems off (even if it is a mild breach of protocol you are thanked for noticing and speaking up), kids who understand boundaries, parents who recognize risks, schools that follow policies designed to protect no matter what or who thinks the rules don't apply to them. Getting the training year after year makes it second nature. Read some of the links -- it is comprehensive and not just a policy no one ever reads in an on line handbook like lots of local schools might have (or not even).

PP jokes about Catholic schools, and maybe doesn't realize that the more recent headlines are about things that happened before the peak lawsuits in the 80s, which triggered these programs and reforms, which lead to uncovering more of the past abuses and publicity lead to more adult victims and families coming forward. Mandatory reporting to civil authorities have been in place since the 80s. So Catholic communities now have almost 50 years of experience trying to make sure the past doesn't repeat itself, continuing to encourage victims to come forward, refining the programs frequently. Those families and communities were traumatized when cases became known, much as yours is now. They turned their trauma into action to create safer environments for their communities. It's a good program, worth looking into.

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Anonymous wrote:It will not go to trial if they have the goods on him. There is no point. He will get sentenced. He is falling under the eo13818. Forwarding imagery of naked minors is a Federal offense. He needs to plea and do what he can to avoid harming his family. Asset seizure is something on the table. Draining family resources to pay a lawyer to fight this is not helping his situation.

Sounds like there may not be many assets there since they were being kicked out of a rental and he's using a public defender.

They weren’t being kicked out because they weren’t paying the rent, the owner wanted to take back the property, claiming they wanted to live there again, but it’s suspected that they just wanted to sell it. Nothing to do with lack of payments from their end.

It's pretty entitled of renters to stay in a house that they don't own when they know the owners want them out. Regardless of the reason.

Tenants have a lot of rights in DC. There is nothing unusual about Carroll family actions in this instance. Perv yes.

he has a family???? I assumed he was a single gay man. does he have children???

Nice. You realize how obnoxious that is to make that assumption and then to actually write it?

I thought the same thing. She’s basically equating gay people with child molestors. Horrible.

I didn't read it that way. His sexual exploit interests involve boys only.

Exactly. These idiots didn't read any of the fbi sting in which he clearly stated he prefers boys. All this evil and these people are worried about being PC...

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Anonymous wrote:It will not go to trial if they have the goods on him. There is no point. He will get sentenced. He is falling under the eo13818. Forwarding imagery of naked minors is a Federal offense. He needs to plea and do what he can to avoid harming his family. Asset seizure is something on the table. Draining family resources to pay a lawyer to fight this is not helping his situation.

Sounds like there may not be many assets there since they were being kicked out of a rental and he's using a public defender.

They weren’t being kicked out because they weren’t paying the rent, the owner wanted to take back the property, claiming they wanted to live there again, but it’s suspected that they just wanted to sell it. Nothing to do with lack of payments from their end.

It's pretty entitled of renters to stay in a house that they don't own when they know the owners want them out. Regardless of the reason.

Tenants have a lot of rights in DC. There is nothing unusual about Carroll family actions in this instance. Perv yes.

he has a family???? I assumed he was a single gay man. does he have children???

Nice. You realize how obnoxious that is to make that assumption and then to actually write it?

I thought the same thing. She’s basically equating gay people with child molestors. Horrible.

I didn't read it that way. His sexual exploit interests involve boys only.

Im the poster you’re responding too and you just made a fair point

He WAS a gay man. His username on Discord literally included “London Gay”.

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Anonymous wrote:It will not go to trial if they have the goods on him. There is no point. He will get sentenced. He is falling under the eo13818. Forwarding imagery of naked minors is a Federal offense. He needs to plea and do what he can to avoid harming his family. Asset seizure is something on the table. Draining family resources to pay a lawyer to fight this is not helping his situation.

Sounds like there may not be many assets there since they were being kicked out of a rental and he's using a public defender.

They weren’t being kicked out because they weren’t paying the rent, the owner wanted to take back the property, claiming they wanted to live there again, but it’s suspected that they just wanted to sell it. Nothing to do with lack of payments from their end.

It's pretty entitled of renters to stay in a house that they don't own when they know the owners want them out. Regardless of the reason.

Tenants have a lot of rights in DC. There is nothing unusual about Carroll family actions in this instance. Perv yes.

he has a family???? I assumed he was a single gay man. does he have children???

Nice. You realize how obnoxious that is to make that assumption and then to actually write it?

I thought the same thing. She’s basically equating gay people with child molestors. Horrible.

I didn't read it that way. His sexual exploit interests involve boys only.

Im the poster you’re responding too and you just made a fair point

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that ALL schools should require comprehensive background checks for every staff member AGAIN urgently, with frequent regular updates in future to ensure the information is current. This process would also help prevent individuals with problematic histories from applying for these positions in the future. Problem solved.

Background checks are necessary, but not sufficient. Everyone, parents, volunteers, teachers, admin, facilities staff, security, etc., need training like youth sports organizations and Catholic schools do, so the whole community knows what to look for and is watching all the time. Kids too. When my (now adult) kids were little they had age appropriate training about boundaries and safe behaviors every year. The Catholic Church has a K-8 program called Circle of Grace, a curriculum that teaches children how to identify and maintain safe boundaries, and how to respond when those boundaries are violated, it covers everything from keeping your hands to yourself in preschool, to bullying in elementary school, to sex trafficking in upper middle school. Secular training models are likely out there too.

Citing the Catholic Church training on how to prevent sexual exploitation is…something.

The Catholic Church has been legally required to develop effective mandatory reporting training due to the many lawsuits they have settled. It’s very similar and in some ways even better than what public school employees and staff are required to do. I’ve done both and highly recommend one or both.

NP here. For similar reasons, the Boy Scouts of America's sexual exploitation training was more rigorous than the training I did for a DMV public school system. The training models aren't rocket science but they're still important. They exist to create a culture of accountability that goes beyond background checks.

Curious how these trainings might have applied in this case? Whether it's the Boy Scouts or the Catholic schools training, what would people have been trained to recognize that would have outed Carroll sooner?

Nothing. Period.

Exactly, these trainings are to prevent in-person abuse. No training is going to help people read other people's private thoughts (or know their private behavior).

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that ALL schools should require comprehensive background checks for every staff member AGAIN urgently, with frequent regular updates in future to ensure the information is current. This process would also help prevent individuals with problematic histories from applying for these positions in the future. Problem solved.

Background checks are necessary, but not sufficient. Everyone, parents, volunteers, teachers, admin, facilities staff, security, etc., need training like youth sports organizations and Catholic schools do, so the whole community knows what to look for and is watching all the time. Kids too. When my (now adult) kids were little they had age appropriate training about boundaries and safe behaviors every year. The Catholic Church has a K-8 program called Circle of Grace, a curriculum that teaches children how to identify and maintain safe boundaries, and how to respond when those boundaries are violated, it covers everything from keeping your hands to yourself in preschool, to bullying in elementary school, to sex trafficking in upper middle school. Secular training models are likely out there too.

Citing the Catholic Church training on how to prevent sexual exploitation is…something.

The Catholic Church has been legally required to develop effective mandatory reporting training due to the many lawsuits they have settled. It’s very similar and in some ways even better than what public school employees and staff are required to do. I’ve done both and highly recommend one or both.

NP here. For similar reasons, the Boy Scouts of America's sexual exploitation training was more rigorous than the training I did for a DMV public school system. The training models aren't rocket science but they're still important. They exist to create a culture of accountability that goes beyond background checks.

Curious how these trainings might have applied in this case? Whether it's the Boy Scouts or the Catholic schools training, what would people have been trained to recognize that would have outed Carroll sooner?

Nothing. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:It will not go to trial if they have the goods on him. There is no point. He will get sentenced. He is falling under the eo13818. Forwarding imagery of naked minors is a Federal offense. He needs to plea and do what he can to avoid harming his family. Asset seizure is something on the table. Draining family resources to pay a lawyer to fight this is not helping his situation.

Sounds like there may not be many assets there since they were being kicked out of a rental and he's using a public defender.

Read the thread, low info poster.

The landlord wants to re-possess and occupy the property. The action is NOT for non-payment.

Public defenders are common in these cases, see Eleanor Hoppe thread. They are also very experienced.

Public defenders are not common for these cases unless the defendant is living in poverty which JC is obviously not. There’s an entire cottage industry of attorneys in the DC area that represent accused pedophiles with little notice on far lighter charges than these.

What was his NCRC salary?

Around 200K.

275,404 in 2023 according to the 990 posted on Pro Publica.

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Anonymous wrote:It will not go to trial if they have the goods on him. There is no point. He will get sentenced. He is falling under the eo13818. Forwarding imagery of naked minors is a Federal offense. He needs to plea and do what he can to avoid harming his family. Asset seizure is something on the table. Draining family resources to pay a lawyer to fight this is not helping his situation.

Sounds like there may not be many assets there since they were being kicked out of a rental and he's using a public defender.

Read the thread, low info poster.

The landlord wants to re-possess and occupy the property. The action is NOT for non-payment.

Public defenders are common in these cases, see Eleanor Hoppe thread. They are also very experienced.

Public defenders are not common for these cases unless the defendant is living in poverty which JC is obviously not. There’s an entire cottage industry of attorneys in the DC area that represent accused pedophiles with little notice on far lighter charges than these.

What was his NCRC salary?

Around 200K.

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Anonymous wrote:It will not go to trial if they have the goods on him. There is no point. He will get sentenced. He is falling under the eo13818. Forwarding imagery of naked minors is a Federal offense. He needs to plea and do what he can to avoid harming his family. Asset seizure is something on the table. Draining family resources to pay a lawyer to fight this is not helping his situation.

Sounds like there may not be many assets there since they were being kicked out of a rental and he's using a public defender.

They weren’t being kicked out because they weren’t paying the rent, the owner wanted to take back the property, claiming they wanted to live there again, but it’s suspected that they just wanted to sell it. Nothing to do with lack of payments from their end.

It's pretty entitled of renters to stay in a house that they don't own when they know the owners want them out. Regardless of the reason.

Tenants have a lot of rights in DC. There is nothing unusual about Carroll family actions in this instance. Perv yes.

he has a family???? I assumed he was a single gay man. does he have children???

Nice. You realize how obnoxious that is to make that assumption and then to actually write it?

I thought the same thing. She’s basically equating gay people with child molestors. Horrible.

I didn't read it that way. His sexual exploit interests involve boys only.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that ALL schools should require comprehensive background checks for every staff member AGAIN urgently, with frequent regular updates in future to ensure the information is current. This process would also help prevent individuals with problematic histories from applying for these positions in the future. Problem solved.

Background checks are necessary, but not sufficient. Everyone, parents, volunteers, teachers, admin, facilities staff, security, etc., need training like youth sports organizations and Catholic schools do, so the whole community knows what to look for and is watching all the time. Kids too. When my (now adult) kids were little they had age appropriate training about boundaries and safe behaviors every year. The Catholic Church has a K-8 program called Circle of Grace, a curriculum that teaches children how to identify and maintain safe boundaries, and how to respond when those boundaries are violated, it covers everything from keeping your hands to yourself in preschool, to bullying in elementary school, to sex trafficking in upper middle school. Secular training models are likely out there too.

Citing the Catholic Church training on how to prevent sexual exploitation is…something.

The Catholic Church has been legally required to develop effective mandatory reporting training due to the many lawsuits they have settled. It’s very similar and in some ways even better than what public school employees and staff are required to do. I’ve done both and highly recommend one or both.

NP here. For similar reasons, the Boy Scouts of America's sexual exploitation training was more rigorous than the training I did for a DMV public school system. The training models aren't rocket science but they're still important. They exist to create a culture of accountability that goes beyond background checks.

Curious how these trainings might have applied in this case? Whether it's the Boy Scouts or the Catholic schools training, what would people have been trained to recognize that would have outed Carroll sooner?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will not go to trial if they have the goods on him. There is no point. He will get sentenced. He is falling under the eo13818. Forwarding imagery of naked minors is a Federal offense. He needs to plea and do what he can to avoid harming his family. Asset seizure is something on the table. Draining family resources to pay a lawyer to fight this is not helping his situation.

Sounds like there may not be many assets there since they were being kicked out of a rental and he's using a public defender.

They weren’t being kicked out because they weren’t paying the rent, the owner wanted to take back the property, claiming they wanted to live there again, but it’s suspected that they just wanted to sell it. Nothing to do with lack of payments from their end.

It's pretty entitled of renters to stay in a house that they don't own when they know the owners want them out. Regardless of the reason.

Tenants have a lot of rights in DC. There is nothing unusual about Carroll family actions in this instance. Perv yes.

he has a family???? I assumed he was a single gay man. does he have children???

Nice. You realize how obnoxious that is to make that assumption and then to actually write it?

I thought the same thing. She’s basically equating gay people with child molestors. Horrible.

Anyone understand why the hearing was postponed today? Court decision?

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Anonymous wrote:It will not go to trial if they have the goods on him. There is no point. He will get sentenced. He is falling under the eo13818. Forwarding imagery of naked minors is a Federal offense. He needs to plea and do what he can to avoid harming his family. Asset seizure is something on the table. Draining family resources to pay a lawyer to fight this is not helping his situation.

Sounds like there may not be many assets there since they were being kicked out of a rental and he's using a public defender.

They weren’t being kicked out because they weren’t paying the rent, the owner wanted to take back the property, claiming they wanted to live there again, but it’s suspected that they just wanted to sell it. Nothing to do with lack of payments from their end.

It's pretty entitled of renters to stay in a house that they don't own when they know the owners want them out. Regardless of the reason.

Tenants have a lot of rights in DC. There is nothing unusual about Carroll family actions in this instance. Perv yes.

he has a family???? I assumed he was a single gay man. does he have children???

Nice. You realize how obnoxious that is to make that assumption and then to actually write it?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that ALL schools should require comprehensive background checks for every staff member AGAIN urgently, with frequent regular updates in future to ensure the information is current. This process would also help prevent individuals with problematic histories from applying for these positions in the future. Problem solved.

Background checks are necessary, but not sufficient. Everyone, parents, volunteers, teachers, admin, facilities staff, security, etc., need training like youth sports organizations and Catholic schools do, so the whole community knows what to look for and is watching all the time. Kids too. When my (now adult) kids were little they had age appropriate training about boundaries and safe behaviors every year. The Catholic Church has a K-8 program called Circle of Grace, a curriculum that teaches children how to identify and maintain safe boundaries, and how to respond when those boundaries are violated, it covers everything from keeping your hands to yourself in preschool, to bullying in elementary school, to sex trafficking in upper middle school. Secular training models are likely out there too.

Citing the Catholic Church training on how to prevent sexual exploitation is…something.

The Catholic Church has been legally required to develop effective mandatory reporting training due to the many lawsuits they have settled. It’s very similar and in some ways even better than what public school employees and staff are required to do. I’ve done both and highly recommend one or both.

NP here. For similar reasons, the Boy Scouts of America's sexual exploitation training was more rigorous than the training I did for a DMV public school system. The training models aren't rocket science but they're still important. They exist to create a culture of accountability that goes beyond background checks.