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Anonymous wrote:Socialists love Kamala’s VP Pick, YOU GO GIRL!

Please learn the difference between socialism and democratic socialists. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Walz admits he’s a socialist and had socialist values. We are not a socialist country.

Uh no. He challenges anyone to suggest that school breakfasts and lunches are 'socialism" as a bad thing.

I agree that children shouldn’t be punished for their parents’ bad choices, I just wish there was more personal responsibility from the parents.

???

Are you suggesting that poverty is a matter of "bad choices"?

Tim Walz says he sleeps just fine’ with F’s from the NRA

https://fortune.com/2024/08/06/tim-walz-sleeps-just-fine-with-fs-from-the-nra-gun-lobby-control/

It might seem a little out of the norm or against the commonly held stereotype for a known former veteran and hunter to be pro-gun-control. But Walz explained in last year’s annual State of the State that it’s this exact experience that informs his desire to pass legislation that involves greater arms regulation.

“I know guns as well as anyone else in this room,” Walz said at the Minnesota Capitol building in 2023, adding that he is “one of the best shots in Congress” and has the trophy to prove it.

“I got an A rating from the NRA my first term in Congress. Now I get straight F’s. And I sleep just fine,” Walz said in his 2023 address, adding that everyone knows gun violence is an issue but are “just used to being bullied by the gun lobby.”

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Anonymous wrote:Socialists love Kamala’s VP Pick, YOU GO GIRL!

Please learn the difference between socialism and democratic socialists. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Walz admits he’s a socialist and had socialist values. We are not a socialist country.

We’re also not a country that likes to have sex with couches, but here we are. Diversity is our strength!

This is so dumb and I hope Walz will have something of actual substance to say.

He said plenty of substance tonight. He’s also happy to stick the knife in and twist it when given such an easy target. Vance was such a terrible choice and Walz is going to make Republicans pay for being so bad at this.

And that’s the job of the VP candidate. Walz will do well. Vance is fundamentally not tough enough.

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Anonymous wrote:Walz's "that is if he's willing to get off the couch... you see what I did there?" line was gold. He may have remarkable appeal to the youngins.

Maybe. But for this Gen X mom, I take a couple points of his performance for that aside. "You see what I did there?" He should have delivered the line totally straight.

Exactly what I was thinking!! You never laugh at your own jokes.
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Anonymous wrote:Socialists love Kamala’s VP Pick, YOU GO GIRL!

Please learn the difference between socialism and democratic socialists. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Walz admits he’s a socialist and had socialist values. We are not a socialist country.

We’re also not a country that likes to have sex with couches, but here we are. Diversity is our strength!

This is so dumb and I hope Walz will have something of actual substance to say.

He said plenty of substance tonight. He’s also happy to stick the knife in and twist it when given such an easy target. Vance was such a terrible choice and Walz is going to make Republicans pay for being so bad at this.

The vengeance thing? It’s not a good look. Michelle Obama had it right.

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Anonymous wrote:If there was any question about the far left controlling a Kamala Harris White House, she just erased any doubt with this choice.

There is no doubt she will be controlled by the far left.

This. Feeling politically homeless right now. I can’t bring myself to vote for either extreme so will probably sit this one out.

I don't believe you are what you say you are. But, even if you view this as a "lesser evil" situation (it's not, Harris/Walz is a good option); but even if you viewed it as a "lesser evil" situation, the moral thing to do is to vote in a way that helps protect your friends and neighbors from the greater evil.

I’m the PP and truly can’t believe what I just read. You’re lecturing me on who is a “good option” here, as if I couldn’t possibly make my own decision? Then telling me what the “moral thing” to do is? Not sure if you’re aware, but your sanctimony is exactly what makes me not interested in voting for the Ds. Not a Trump voter, but definitely not a Harris voter either. Lots of us out there, but do stay safe in your echo chamber.

MAGA loser: Keep working that “Oh, why bother voting, there’s no point”-thing. Direct from Putin!

And keep lecturing people on what the “appropriate” morals are. I’m with PP. I cannot believe you have the balls to tell people the proper way to vote.
Well, maybe I can.

Only that they should vote, whatever way they choose. 450,000 American soldiers died in World War Two so that you could vote.

No. That PP was not just saying “vote,” they were explaining the moral way the other PP should vote.

Exactly.

Ironic, then, that you support a candidate that would like to do away with elections.

Once again: what is it about “not a Trump voter” do you people not grasp? Anyone who dares to challenge you or disagree in ANY way is stupidly labeled “MAGA.” Grow the hell up.

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Anonymous wrote:Socialists love Kamala’s VP Pick, YOU GO GIRL!

Please learn the difference between socialism and democratic socialists. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Walz admits he’s a socialist and had socialist values. We are not a socialist country.

We’re also not a country that likes to have sex with couches, but here we are. Diversity is our strength!

This is so dumb and I hope Walz will have something of actual substance to say.

He said plenty of substance tonight. He’s also happy to stick the knife in and twist it when given such an easy target. Vance was such a terrible choice and Walz is going to make Republicans pay for being so bad at this.

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Please learn the difference between socialism and democratic socialists. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Walz admits he’s a socialist and had socialist values. We are not a socialist country.

Uh no. He challenges anyone to suggest that school breakfasts and lunches are 'socialism" as a bad thing.

I agree that children shouldn’t be punished for their parents’ bad choices, I just wish there was more personal responsibility from the parents.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so weird how magas keep posting shit from Joey Mannarino, the guy who got caught pretending to be a black woman on Twitter because he was too stupid to switch accounts.

This is who you have telling you what to think?

lol-is that who he is? That guy is dumb as rocks. If that’s the conservative thought leader, the GOP is in even more trouble than I thought

Well, he's no Ben Shapiro

Have you ever listened to Ben Shapiro? You may not like what he has to say, but he’s very bright. And quite sharp.

He's a dumb person's idea of a smart person. Also, he looks funny. Head down, constantly bobbing.

I think Harvard Law probably disagrees with you. As would UCLA and Phi Beta Kappa. Where did you go to school?

Like Walz, I went to a state college. I'm all for a good education, but book learning isn't everything.

NP. It's always funny to see the party that decries elitism constantly fall back in Ivy credentials, like Harvard has never produced a dumb person.

He graduated summa cum laude from UCLA. But keep trying.

I'm just surprised to see the party that claims to represent the working class so impressed by Latin honors and prestigious degrees. Personally, I don't put much stock in them. I listen to what a man has to say and judge him by that. Shapiro has never impressed me. Good grades are never going to convince me to ignore what my eyes see and my ears hear.

It’s fine to disagree with him. But dismissing him by calling him dumb and stupid is disingenuous. He is neither.

Well, the good news is I don't need permission from you, Harvard Law, or UCLA to call people dumb when they seem dumb. He's either dumb or he plays dumb very well. You keep worshipping those credentials though.

You don’t need permission, of course. But it’s laughable that you think you can judge his intelligence better than Harvard. Or UCLA. Or Phi Beta Kappa. What do they call that? The arrogance of ignorance? Or something like that.

NP. If you think someone is smart solely because they went to Harvard or were in a certain frat, you are not smart.

DP. And yet, it’s generally liberals who insist that only Ivy/“elite” schools are worthwhile and that everyone else must just be a stupid rube. Funny how that has also (pretended to) change with Tim Walz joining the ticket.

Really? The leading republicans are all Ivy educated. Neither Biden, Harris nor Walz is.

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Full blown. It's all trans in bathrooms and George Floyd/riots! That's all they got. Wait until they start hearing him speak! This is going to be delicious.

The riots and overall breakdown of law and order in our cities is where the Democrats are most vulnerable. Expect to hear about Kamala’s San Francisco and Tim’s Minneapolis nonstop for the next three months.

Did January 6th not happen? I don't understand how GOP are so concerned about some riots and not others. It's weird.

Bingo

All riots should be equally disdained regardless of the issue behind it because more often than not it's some nut job extremist thugs who don't actually care about the issue behind it....but as such should also be equally prosecuted and equally thought of as wrong regardless of the issue. It's never ok to destroy property regardless of the issue or topic period.

I agree. I read an article about The riots in MN and poor reaction time. Walz was very honest about it all and how it was not handled well. Now contrast that with Trump who still thinks January 6th was a good thing.

True - but I also know many Dems who think the BLM riots were a good thing too.

Dems supported the peaceful protests and criticized where the looting and property damage took place.

Well I'll rephrase,"I have personally spoken to more than one Dem who feels the looting and property damage was justified". But we are going off-topic now. Back to Tim Walz....honestly...I don't care how he reacted to the BLM riots because it was an extremely difficult time. I also don't care about anything he did or didn't do 20 yrs ago. I do care about his political views and social ideology which are too progressive for my taste. Not saying it's going to make me vote for Trump but I am now strongly considering staying home...and this is coming from someone who was pushing their DD to go out and vote because of the importance of voting - DD doesn't care to vote this year either. I can see her point of view.

What ideology do you find too progressive?

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Education: In favor of reduced/free college education for the trades -- in fact...take some of the illegal immigrants who have been here for over 10-15+ yrs (because realistically you can't deport them all) and educate them in the trades. Fix our education system and stop focusing on stupid issues that don't belong in schools. Teach tolerance and respect as a two-way street. Note: I actually like how Walz has approached education in MN -- except for teaching gender ideology in schools. Many parents voice their concerns: https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/minnesota-parents-clash-over-teachers-discussing-gender-identity-with-students-stay-in-your-lane-osseo-area-schools-isd-279-lgbtqia-history-and-culture-resolution-lgbt-transgender and […]

You cite a ton of right wing talking points and misrepresentations (no one takes you seriously when your argument is a strawman), but I think you should have read the article you posted before spouting off about “teaching gender ideology” and from a “news” outlet in Austin, TX owned by Sinclair. But even they were able to sneak in the fact that it’s not teaching gender ideology but respecting all students, including the ones who were being bullied for being gay. So you want gay kids to get bullied? That’s essentially what you said.

And to try to pull some grapes out of your cornucopia of misled: that was an Osseo, MN policy, not a state wide one. Good lord. You are bad at this, “independent.”

This was just one point in response to someone who asked "What ideology do you find too progressive?" And I stand by my post - this is one area that I find too progressive/liberal. But I am also pro-LGBTQ rights -- it's something the progressive/liberal left can't seem to comprehend which is so frustrating -- you can support LGBTQ rights but also disagree with certain specific issues. The all-or-nothing attitude of the left is tiresome. Just as tiresome as the all-or-nothing attitude of the right when it comes to abortion. Same thing.

DP. Well said. This is how I feel, too. So sick of the extremes.

The forgotten middle.
The middle children of the country if you will.

Well said indeed.

Well, Harris acknowledges you with this pick.

DP. No. Walz may be a nice person, but he is not middle-of-the-road/moderate. Please stop pretending otherwise.

The most right leaning Democrat disagrees with you.

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I don't think he's going to bring in new votes either. The same people who are going to vote for Harris will still vote for her.

I think Gen Z/college young adults approve of him. Motivating that group to vote is important.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so weird how magas keep posting shit from Joey Mannarino, the guy who got caught pretending to be a black woman on Twitter because he was too stupid to switch accounts.

This is who you have telling you what to think?

lol-is that who he is? That guy is dumb as rocks. If that’s the conservative thought leader, the GOP is in even more trouble than I thought

Well, he's no Ben Shapiro

Have you ever listened to Ben Shapiro? You may not like what he has to say, but he’s very bright. And quite sharp.

He's a dumb person's idea of a smart person. Also, he looks funny. Head down, constantly bobbing.

I think Harvard Law probably disagrees with you. As would UCLA and Phi Beta Kappa. Where did you go to school?

Like Walz, I went to a state college. I'm all for a good education, but book learning isn't everything.

NP. It's always funny to see the party that decries elitism constantly fall back in Ivy credentials, like Harvard has never produced a dumb person.

He graduated summa cum laude from UCLA. But keep trying.

I'm just surprised to see the party that claims to represent the working class so impressed by Latin honors and prestigious degrees. Personally, I don't put much stock in them. I listen to what a man has to say and judge him by that. Shapiro has never impressed me. Good grades are never going to convince me to ignore what my eyes see and my ears hear.

It’s fine to disagree with him. But dismissing him by calling him dumb and stupid is disingenuous. He is neither.

Well, the good news is I don't need permission from you, Harvard Law, or UCLA to call people dumb when they seem dumb. He's either dumb or he plays dumb very well. You keep worshipping those credentials though.

You don’t need permission, of course. But it’s laughable that you think you can judge his intelligence better than Harvard. Or UCLA. Or Phi Beta Kappa. What do they call that? The arrogance of ignorance? Or something like that.

NP. If you think someone is smart solely because they went to Harvard or were in a certain frat, you are not smart.

DP. And yet, it’s generally liberals who insist that only Ivy/“elite” schools are worthwhile and that everyone else must just be a stupid rube. Funny how that has also (pretended to) change with Tim Walz joining the ticket.

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Anonymous wrote:Maga is in panic

Full blown. It's all trans in bathrooms and George Floyd/riots! That's all they got. Wait until they start hearing him speak! This is going to be delicious.

The riots and overall breakdown of law and order in our cities is where the Democrats are most vulnerable. Expect to hear about Kamala’s San Francisco and Tim’s Minneapolis nonstop for the next three months.

Did January 6th not happen? I don't understand how GOP are so concerned about some riots and not others. It's weird.

Bingo

All riots should be equally disdained regardless of the issue behind it because more often than not it's some nut job extremist thugs who don't actually care about the issue behind it....but as such should also be equally prosecuted and equally thought of as wrong regardless of the issue. It's never ok to destroy property regardless of the issue or topic period.

I agree. I read an article about The riots in MN and poor reaction time. Walz was very honest about it all and how it was not handled well. Now contrast that with Trump who still thinks January 6th was a good thing.

True - but I also know many Dems who think the BLM riots were a good thing too.

Dems supported the peaceful protests and criticized where the looting and property damage took place.

Well I'll rephrase,"I have personally spoken to more than one Dem who feels the looting and property damage was justified". But we are going off-topic now. Back to Tim Walz....honestly...I don't care how he reacted to the BLM riots because it was an extremely difficult time. I also don't care about anything he did or didn't do 20 yrs ago. I do care about his political views and social ideology which are too progressive for my taste. Not saying it's going to make me vote for Trump but I am now strongly considering staying home...and this is coming from someone who was pushing their DD to go out and vote because of the importance of voting - DD doesn't care to vote this year either. I can see her point of view.

What ideology do you find too progressive?

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Education: In favor of reduced/free college education for the trades -- in fact...take some of the illegal immigrants who have been here for over 10-15+ yrs (because realistically you can't deport them all) and educate them in the trades. Fix our education system and stop focusing on stupid issues that don't belong in schools. Teach tolerance and respect as a two-way street. Note: I actually like how Walz has approached education in MN -- except for teaching gender ideology in schools. Many parents voice their concerns: https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/minnesota-parents-clash-over-teachers-discussing-gender-identity-with-students-stay-in-your-lane-osseo-area-schools-isd-279-lgbtqia-history-and-culture-resolution-lgbt-transgender and […]

You cite a ton of right wing talking points and misrepresentations (no one takes you seriously when your argument is a strawman), but I think you should have read the article you posted before spouting off about “teaching gender ideology” and from a “news” outlet in Austin, TX owned by Sinclair. But even they were able to sneak in the fact that it’s not teaching gender ideology but respecting all students, including the ones who were being bullied for being gay. So you want gay kids to get bullied? That’s essentially what you said.

And to try to pull some grapes out of your cornucopia of misled: that was an Osseo, MN policy, not a state wide one. Good lord. You are bad at this, “independent.”

This was just one point in response to someone who asked "What ideology do you find too progressive?" And I stand by my post - this is one area that I find too progressive/liberal. But I am also pro-LGBTQ rights -- it's something the progressive/liberal left can't seem to comprehend which is so frustrating -- you can support LGBTQ rights but also disagree with certain specific issues. The all-or-nothing attitude of the left is tiresome. Just as tiresome as the all-or-nothing attitude of the right when it comes to abortion. Same thing.

DP. Well said. This is how I feel, too. So sick of the extremes.

The forgotten middle.
The middle children of the country if you will.

Well said indeed.

Well, Harris acknowledges you with this pick.

No she didn't.
I'm still likely to vote for her given I can't tolerate Trump.
But I will also likely to vote more right leaning down ballot to keep things somewhat balanced.

The Democrats have bent over backwards to be right leaning (Biden, Clinton, Kaine, Lieberman, Gore, Obama, Kerry… these are not far left people); the same is never asked of the GOP. Not ever. Voters like you never ask that the GOP move left. You should ask yourself why you don’t think they should moderate.

I have in my lifetime voted for both Democrats and Republicans.
I vote for who at the time I feel is best for the country overall, best represents the views of the country and best reflects my personal views.

I think both parties are invested in playing to the extremes and not really listening to what people actually want.

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Absolutely agree. I would happily vote for a Bill Clinton today.
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I totally disagree and really aren’t sure what on earth you’re listening to.

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are desperate to paint Walz as a far leftist. But they’re failing because it’s absurd. The Trump campaign must be freaking out. They’re running a convicted felon and a techbro elite. Talk about out of touch!

A convicted felon who uses a gold plated toilet to boot.

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Full blown. It's all trans in bathrooms and George Floyd/riots! That's all they got. Wait until they start hearing him speak! This is going to be delicious.

The riots and overall breakdown of law and order in our cities is where the Democrats are most vulnerable. Expect to hear about Kamala’s San Francisco and Tim’s Minneapolis nonstop for the next three months.

Did January 6th not happen? I don't understand how GOP are so concerned about some riots and not others. It's weird.

Bingo

All riots should be equally disdained regardless of the issue behind it because more often than not it's some nut job extremist thugs who don't actually care about the issue behind it....but as such should also be equally prosecuted and equally thought of as wrong regardless of the issue. It's never ok to destroy property regardless of the issue or topic period.

I agree. I read an article about The riots in MN and poor reaction time. Walz was very honest about it all and how it was not handled well. Now contrast that with Trump who still thinks January 6th was a good thing.

True - but I also know many Dems who think the BLM riots were a good thing too.

Dems supported the peaceful protests and criticized where the looting and property damage took place.

Well I'll rephrase,"I have personally spoken to more than one Dem who feels the looting and property damage was justified". But we are going off-topic now. Back to Tim Walz....honestly...I don't care how he reacted to the BLM riots because it was an extremely difficult time. I also don't care about anything he did or didn't do 20 yrs ago. I do care about his political views and social ideology which are too progressive for my taste. Not saying it's going to make me vote for Trump but I am now strongly considering staying home...and this is coming from someone who was pushing their DD to go out and vote because of the importance of voting - DD doesn't care to vote this year either. I can see her point of view.

What ideology do you find too progressive?

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Education: In favor of reduced/free college education for the trades -- in fact...take some of the illegal immigrants who have been here for over 10-15+ yrs (because realistically you can't deport them all) and educate them in the trades. Fix our education system and stop focusing on stupid issues that don't belong in schools. Teach tolerance and respect as a two-way street. Note: I actually like how Walz has approached education in MN -- except for teaching gender ideology in schools. Many parents voice their concerns: https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/minnesota-parents-clash-over-teachers-discussing-gender-identity-with-students-stay-in-your-lane-osseo-area-schools-isd-279-lgbtqia-history-and-culture-resolution-lgbt-transgender and […]

You cite a ton of right wing talking points and misrepresentations (no one takes you seriously when your argument is a strawman), but I think you should have read the article you posted before spouting off about “teaching gender ideology” and from a “news” outlet in Austin, TX owned by Sinclair. But even they were able to sneak in the fact that it’s not teaching gender ideology but respecting all students, including the ones who were being bullied for being gay. So you want gay kids to get bullied? That’s essentially what you said.

And to try to pull some grapes out of your cornucopia of misled: that was an Osseo, MN policy, not a state wide one. Good lord. You are bad at this, “independent.”

This was just one point in response to someone who asked "What ideology do you find too progressive?" And I stand by my post - this is one area that I find too progressive/liberal. But I am also pro-LGBTQ rights -- it's something the progressive/liberal left can't seem to comprehend which is so frustrating -- you can support LGBTQ rights but also disagree with certain specific issues. The all-or-nothing attitude of the left is tiresome. Just as tiresome as the all-or-nothing attitude of the right when it comes to abortion. Same thing.

DP. Well said. This is how I feel, too. So sick of the extremes.

The forgotten middle.
The middle children of the country if you will.

Well said indeed.

Well, Harris acknowledges you with this pick.

No she didn't.
I'm still likely to vote for her given I can't tolerate Trump.
But I will also likely to vote more right leaning down ballot to keep things somewhat balanced.

The Democrats have bent over backwards to be right leaning (Biden, Clinton, Kaine, Lieberman, Gore, Obama, Kerry… these are not far left people); the same is never asked of the GOP. Not ever. Voters like you never ask that the GOP move left. You should ask yourself why you don’t think they should moderate.

I have in my lifetime voted for both Democrats and Republicans.
I vote for who at the time I feel is best for the country overall, best represents the views of the country and best reflects my personal views.

I think both parties are invested in playing to the extremes and not really listening to what people actually want.

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Absolutely agree. I would happily vote for a Bill Clinton today.
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Walz is basically Bill Clinton.