Anonymous
08/15/2023 13:08
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking the billions in research money outweighs the millions in TV money.
The B1G schools don't share/pool their research money.
Right, but they do work together. Google Big Ben Academic Alliance (used to be CIC-Committee on institutional Cooperation).
It seems like a way for schools run by football teams to pretend academics matter
Sure, Michigan is run by a football team. You just can’t stand the fact that some universities are great at many things.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 12:59
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
The B1G is predominantly large flagship state schools with huge numbers of alumni and huge research budgets.
Cal fits better than Stanford. The schools that would be different are Northwestern, Purdue and Michigan State (not flagship). The common interests and issues are very well defined in the B1G and the union is cohesive. It’s a great club with friendly competition.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 12:55
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking the billions in research money outweighs the millions in TV money.
The B1G schools don't share/pool their research money.
Right, but they do work together. Google Big Ben Academic Alliance (used to be CIC-Committee on institutional Cooperation).
It seems like a way for schools run by football teams to pretend academics matter
Anonymous
08/15/2023 12:48
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking the billions in research money outweighs the millions in TV money.
The B1G schools don't share/pool their research money.
Right, but they do work together. Google Big Ben Academic Alliance (used to be CIC-Committee on institutional Cooperation).
I understand that, but researchers are going to collaborate as they can. If researchers at Wisconsin who are working on a hybrid delivery model for flue and COVID shots want to partner with colleagues at Stanford, the football conference is not going to influence that decision.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 12:16
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Today is the big day when FSU turns out look like a loser.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 10:59
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking the billions in research money outweighs the millions in TV money.
The B1G schools don't share/pool their research money.
Right, but they do work together. Google Big Ben Academic Alliance (used to be CIC-Committee on institutional Cooperation).
Anonymous
08/15/2023 10:46
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking the billions in research money outweighs the millions in TV money.
The B1G schools don't share/pool their research money.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 10:45
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(OP here)
Regarding Big Ten Conference expansion, Stanford and Notre Dame still make the most sense. And, yes, I understand and respect that Notre Dame is not yet ready to follow its true path to its final destination, but the time is now for Stanford to join/be admitted to the Big Ten Conference.
While the TV overlords may prefer FSU--and FSU would attract viewers--the Big Ten Conference is about more than just football. And this is a significant difference between the Big Ten Conference and the SEC.
Stanford has a huge endowment but wants poorer schools to get a lower payout. Stanford could probably generate 20-30 million in TV revenue so it should get ratio to the 100 million members will get in 2024.
They should always be at 20-30 percent the payout of other members since that’s what they generate and they have abundant resources to afford it. That’s their own progressive ideology as well.
Stanford is NOT Notre Dame or any of the top/middle B1G schools in terms of eyeballs. It is a relatively small, private school with a corresponding small alumni and fan following where the football team has usually played second fiddle to an apathetic student body, where the joke "marching" band is the big attraction. There is no planet where Stanford is worth the money from a conference. The fact that they have been left behind with Cal is the tell. If it were a hot property, it would have been snatched up.
Okay. It is understood that your focus is solely on Stanford's football viewership. Fine. But the Big Ten Conference is much more than football--it is not the SEC.
Big Ten Universities are academic research institutions first and foremost and NFL training grounds as a distant second.
Keep telling yourself that. Just keep in mind that it was a Big10 quarterback who said ""we ain't come here to play school" in a press conference.
Which QB ? Which School ?
The Ohio State University, which isn't the best of the B1G academically and is more than happy to bend academic standards for athletic admissions.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 10:38
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
I’m thinking the billions in research money outweighs the millions in TV money.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 10:37
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anything going to happen in the ACC today?!
Anonymous
08/15/2023 10:35
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(OP here)
Regarding Big Ten Conference expansion, Stanford and Notre Dame still make the most sense. And, yes, I understand and respect that Notre Dame is not yet ready to follow its true path to its final destination, but the time is now for Stanford to join/be admitted to the Big Ten Conference.
While the TV overlords may prefer FSU--and FSU would attract viewers--the Big Ten Conference is about more than just football. And this is a significant difference between the Big Ten Conference and the SEC.
Stanford has a huge endowment but wants poorer schools to get a lower payout. Stanford could probably generate 20-30 million in TV revenue so it should get ratio to the 100 million members will get in 2024.
They should always be at 20-30 percent the payout of other members since that’s what they generate and they have abundant resources to afford it. That’s their own progressive ideology as well.
Stanford is NOT Notre Dame or any of the top/middle B1G schools in terms of eyeballs. It is a relatively small, private school with a corresponding small alumni and fan following where the football team has usually played second fiddle to an apathetic student body, where the joke "marching" band is the big attraction. There is no planet where Stanford is worth the money from a conference. The fact that they have been left behind with Cal is the tell. If it were a hot property, it would have been snatched up.
Okay. It is understood that your focus is solely on Stanford's football viewership. Fine. But the Big Ten Conference is much more than football--it is not the SEC.
Big Ten Universities are academic research institutions first and foremost and NFL training grounds as a distant second.
Keep telling yourself that. Just keep in mind that it was a Big10 quarterback who said ""we ain't come here to play school" in a press conference.
Which QB ? Which School ?
Ohio State of course! Cardale Jones said it. The funny thing is that he actually did graduate 5 years after he left tOSU from tOSU.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 10:04
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(OP here)
Regarding Big Ten Conference expansion, Stanford and Notre Dame still make the most sense. And, yes, I understand and respect that Notre Dame is not yet ready to follow its true path to its final destination, but the time is now for Stanford to join/be admitted to the Big Ten Conference.
While the TV overlords may prefer FSU--and FSU would attract viewers--the Big Ten Conference is about more than just football. And this is a significant difference between the Big Ten Conference and the SEC.
Stanford has a huge endowment but wants poorer schools to get a lower payout. Stanford could probably generate 20-30 million in TV revenue so it should get ratio to the 100 million members will get in 2024.
They should always be at 20-30 percent the payout of other members since that’s what they generate and they have abundant resources to afford it. That’s their own progressive ideology as well.
Stanford is NOT Notre Dame or any of the top/middle B1G schools in terms of eyeballs. It is a relatively small, private school with a corresponding small alumni and fan following where the football team has usually played second fiddle to an apathetic student body, where the joke "marching" band is the big attraction. There is no planet where Stanford is worth the money from a conference. The fact that they have been left behind with Cal is the tell. If it were a hot property, it would have been snatched up.
Okay. It is understood that your focus is solely on Stanford's football viewership. Fine. But the Big Ten Conference is much more than football--it is not the SEC.
Big Ten Universities are academic research institutions first and foremost and NFL training grounds as a distant second.
Sure but ultimately, tv contracts are about viewership. Absolutely Stanford is a cultural fit, certainly more so than FSU or Clemson. But they already have Northwestern and Rutgers. How many "Washington Generals" does the league need?
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Anonymous
08/15/2023 10:03
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(OP here)
Regarding Big Ten Conference expansion, Stanford and Notre Dame still make the most sense. And, yes, I understand and respect that Notre Dame is not yet ready to follow its true path to its final destination, but the time is now for Stanford to join/be admitted to the Big Ten Conference.
While the TV overlords may prefer FSU--and FSU would attract viewers--the Big Ten Conference is about more than just football. And this is a significant difference between the Big Ten Conference and the SEC.
Stanford has a huge endowment but wants poorer schools to get a lower payout. Stanford could probably generate 20-30 million in TV revenue so it should get ratio to the 100 million members will get in 2024.
They should always be at 20-30 percent the payout of other members since that’s what they generate and they have abundant resources to afford it. That’s their own progressive ideology as well.
Stanford is NOT Notre Dame or any of the top/middle B1G schools in terms of eyeballs. It is a relatively small, private school with a corresponding small alumni and fan following where the football team has usually played second fiddle to an apathetic student body, where the joke "marching" band is the big attraction. There is no planet where Stanford is worth the money from a conference. The fact that they have been left behind with Cal is the tell. If it were a hot property, it would have been snatched up.
Okay. It is understood that your focus is solely on Stanford's football viewership. Fine. But the Big Ten Conference is much more than football--it is not the SEC.
Big Ten Universities are academic research institutions first and foremost and NFL training grounds as a distant second.
Keep telling yourself that. Just keep in mind that it was a Big10 quarterback who said ""we ain't come here to play school" in a press conference.
Which QB ? Which School ?
Anonymous
08/15/2023 09:59
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(OP here)
Regarding Big Ten Conference expansion, Stanford and Notre Dame still make the most sense. And, yes, I understand and respect that Notre Dame is not yet ready to follow its true path to its final destination, but the time is now for Stanford to join/be admitted to the Big Ten Conference.
While the TV overlords may prefer FSU--and FSU would attract viewers--the Big Ten Conference is about more than just football. And this is a significant difference between the Big Ten Conference and the SEC.
Stanford has a huge endowment but wants poorer schools to get a lower payout. Stanford could probably generate 20-30 million in TV revenue so it should get ratio to the 100 million members will get in 2024.
They should always be at 20-30 percent the payout of other members since that’s what they generate and they have abundant resources to afford it. That’s their own progressive ideology as well.
Stanford is NOT Notre Dame or any of the top/middle B1G schools in terms of eyeballs. It is a relatively small, private school with a corresponding small alumni and fan following where the football team has usually played second fiddle to an apathetic student body, where the joke "marching" band is the big attraction. There is no planet where Stanford is worth the money from a conference. The fact that they have been left behind with Cal is the tell. If it were a hot property, it would have been snatched up.
Okay. It is understood that your focus is solely on Stanford's football viewership. Fine. But the Big Ten Conference is much more than football--it is not the SEC.
Big Ten Universities are academic research institutions first and foremost and NFL training grounds as a distant second.
Keep telling yourself that. Just keep in mind that it was a Big10 quarterback who said ""we ain't come here to play school" in a press conference.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 09:56
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(OP here)
Regarding Big Ten Conference expansion, Stanford and Notre Dame still make the most sense. And, yes, I understand and respect that Notre Dame is not yet ready to follow its true path to its final destination, but the time is now for Stanford to join/be admitted to the Big Ten Conference.
While the TV overlords may prefer FSU--and FSU would attract viewers--the Big Ten Conference is about more than just football. And this is a significant difference between the Big Ten Conference and the SEC.
Stanford has a huge endowment but wants poorer schools to get a lower payout. Stanford could probably generate 20-30 million in TV revenue so it should get ratio to the 100 million members will get in 2024.
They should always be at 20-30 percent the payout of other members since that’s what they generate and they have abundant resources to afford it. That’s their own progressive ideology as well.
Stanford is NOT Notre Dame or any of the top/middle B1G schools in terms of eyeballs. It is a relatively small, private school with a corresponding small alumni and fan following where the football team has usually played second fiddle to an apathetic student body, where the joke "marching" band is the big attraction. There is no planet where Stanford is worth the money from a conference. The fact that they have been left behind with Cal is the tell. If it were a hot property, it would have been snatched up.
Okay. It is understood that your focus is solely on Stanford's football viewership. Fine. But the Big Ten Conference is much more than football--it is not the SEC.
Big Ten Universities are academic research institutions first and foremost and NFL training grounds as a distant second.
Sure but ultimately, tv contracts are about viewership. Absolutely Stanford is a cultural fit, certainly more so than FSU or Clemson. But they already have Northwestern and Rutgers. How many "Washington Generals" does the league need?