Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:49     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Here’s two ideas that seem to me entirely constitutionally defensible (I’m an Ivy League trained lawyer):

— enact a law modeled on CPS where if someone has suspicion to believe a person poses a direct threat, they can call a hotline to report it, and the guns can be removed from the house pending a show cause hearing. That is what happens in cases of suspected child abuse, and there is a constitutional right to raise your children. I can’t believe the right to a gun is more firmly engrained that the right to your children.

— require two references and an interview prior to buying a gun, the way they do for many jobs or volunteer positions. This seems to me an essential part of a well regulated militia. It should not be easier to get an AR-15 than it is to get a rescue dog. The shooter’s grandfather told the press he never would have let him have guns. The Tucson shooter’s parents were desperately trying to get him mental health. The Colorado shooter was so obviously mentally impaired any interview would have immediately revealed it.


It the oft-noted proposal that pops up on social media by “unknown” enact a law modeled on abortion in which any person along the path toward gun access can be held accountable in the harm.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:42     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Considering the fact that drugs are killing 100,000 people a year, we need to likewise ban drugs. Or AT LEAST make it a little more difficult to get them. Right? Let’s just be consistent here.


So you want a “war on guns” like the “war on drugs”?
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:40     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Considering the fact that drugs are killing 100,000 people a year, we need to likewise ban drugs. Or AT LEAST make it a little more difficult to get them. Right? Let’s just be consistent here.


I don’t know anyone who thinks we should all be able to get drugs.

In fact, the people I know who want gun control also want pharmaceutical companies to be held responsible for the opioid crisis.

Not sure what your point is.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:39     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:
For anyone who seriously cares, get Why Meadow Died, written by a father whose daughter was murdered in school. Andrew Pollack dedicated his life to researching and promoting school safety.
But if all you have is your screeching Ban Guns!!! mantra, don’t bother. You have no interest in protecting children. Otherwise, you would equally demand that no public buildings have armed security guards.


Except literally no other developed country has this problem, and they don’t have armed guards at schools, either.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:30     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
You shouldn’t need to lock your front door at night either.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:29     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Why are libs so against armed security in a government school building?


We're actually not. But we're not letting the gun nutters try to do this INSTEAD of banning assault rifles. You are trying to change the subject.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:25     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:
For anyone who seriously cares, get Why Meadow Died, written by a father whose daughter was murdered in school. Andrew Pollack dedicated his life to researching and promoting school safety.
But if all you have is your screeching Ban Guns!!! mantra, don’t bother. You have no interest in protecting children. Otherwise, you would equally demand that no public buildings have armed security guards.


Public buildings shouldn’t have to have armed security guards. We shouldn’t have to live in this climate of security theater. I don’t think an armed security guard will actually protect anyone.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:23     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Switzerland has a ton of guns per capita. But they are highly highly regulated (with strict background checks) and they haven’t had a mass shooting in 20 years. Let’s try their way!


They have high guns per capita because everyone gets a bolt action rifle as part of national military service and they must keep the firearm in their home. However, they no longer keep the ammunition at home, that is retained by the government.

If you want a personal gun in Switzerland, it requires licensing, testing, background check, etc. It’s much stricter than the US.


Precisely. This is what we need to do. We are not denying anyone a gun, just follow some basic safety rules.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:22     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school

For anyone who seriously cares, get Why Meadow Died, written by a father whose daughter was murdered in school. Andrew Pollack dedicated his life to researching and promoting school safety.
But if all you have is your screeching Ban Guns!!! mantra, don’t bother. You have no interest in protecting children. Otherwise, you would equally demand that no public buildings have armed security guards.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:14     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
For those who want to learn practical and effective strategies, get “Why Meadow Died” by Andrew Pollack.


Question:
Why do evil people go for the schools?
Answer:
Because they’re “gun-free zones”.

Imagine that.
sp


4 of the 10 deadliest mass shootings have been in Texas, 3 of which were in a church, restaurant, and Walmart. This is the state with more guns, almost double that of the next highest state.

So exactly how many guns are needed to ensure safety? Do we hand out assault rifles to everyone? Because the more guns Texas gets, the more people die.

Or maybe it’s not about gun free zones, because these shooters understand they are going to die as well. Maybe it’s that these shooters are evil people who want to kill children, and our laws allow them to easily do so.

Also keep in mind your every day idiot who took one class and carries a pistol is absolutely useless against someone with an assault rifle. He’s gonna get mowed down before he can even take aim. Unless your idea is that 20 people run after the shooter firing away, in which case they’re going to hit multiple people in the crossfire.

If they even do anything. Remember Dan Bilzerian, the Instagram loser who posed with firearms and bragged how if he was in a shooting, he’d take the shooter out himself? He was at the Vegas shooting, chickened out, and ran off (but not before posting video talking about how he watched a woman’s brains get blown out). It’s absolutely laughable to think idiots with pistols and zero training are going to stop someone with an AR-15.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:12     Subject: Re:Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compilation of mass shootings at American schools. Unbelievable that people don’t care enough here to have guns only for people who need them for legitimate purposes

Thurston High School.
Columbine High School.
Heritage High School.
Deming Middle School.
Fort Gibson Middle School.
Buell Elementary School.
Lake Worth Middle School.
University of Arkansas.
Junipero Serra High School.
Santana High School.
Bishop Neumann High School.
Pacific Lutheran University.
Granite Hills High School.
Lew Wallace High School.
Martin Luther King, Jr. High School.
Appalachian School of Law.
Washington High School.
Conception Abbey.
Benjamin Tasker Middle School.
University of Arizona.
Lincoln High School.
John McDonogh High School.
Red Lion Area Junior High School.
Case Western Reserve University.
Rocori High School.
Ballou High School.
Randallstown High School.
Bowen High School.
Red Lake Senior High School.
Harlan Community Academy High School.
Campbell County High School.
Milwee Middle School.
Roseburg High School.
Pine Middle School.
Essex Elementary School.
Duquesne University.
Platte Canyon High School.
Weston High School.
West Nickel Mines School.
Joplin Memorial Middle School.
Henry Foss High School.
Compton Centennial High School.
Virginia Tech.
Success Tech Academy.
Miami Carol City Senior High School.
Hamilton High School.
Louisiana Technical College.
Mitchell High School.
E.O. Green Junior High School.
Northern Illinois University.
Lakota Middle School.
Knoxville Central High School.
Willoughby South High School.
Henry Ford High School.
University of Central Arkansas.
Dillard High School.
Dunbar High School.
Hampton University.
Harvard College.
Larose-Cut Off Middle School.
International Studies Academy.
Skyline College.
Discovery Middle School.
University of Alabama.
DeKalb School.
Deer Creek Middle School.
Ohio State University.
Mumford High School.
University of Texas.
Kelly Elementary School.
Marinette High School.
Aurora Central High School.
Millard South High School.
Martinsville West Middle School.
Worthing High School.
Millard South High School.
Highlands Intermediate School.
Cape Fear High School.
Chardon High School.
Episcopal School of Jacksonville.
Oikos University.
Hamilton High School.
Perry Hall School.
Normal Community High School.
University of South Alabama.
Banner Academy South.
University of Southern California.
Sandy Hook Elementary School.
Apostolic Revival Center Christian School.
Taft Union High School.
Osborn High School.
Stevens Institute of Business and Arts.
Hazard Community and Technical College.
Chicago State University.
Lone Star College-North.
Cesar Chavez High School.
Price Middle School.
University of Central Florida.
New River Community College.
Grambling State University.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Ossie Ware Mitchell Middle School.
Ronald E. McNair Discovery Academy.
North Panola High School.
Carver High School.
Agape Christian Academy.
Sparks Middle School.
North Carolina A&T State University.
Stephenson High School.
Brashear High School.
West Orange High School.
Arapahoe High School.
Edison High School.
Liberty Technology Magnet High School.
Hillhouse High School.
Berrendo Middle School.
Purdue University.
South Carolina State University.
Los Angeles Valley College.
Charles F. Brush High School.
University of Southern California.
Georgia Regents University.
Academy of Knowledge Preschool.
Benjamin Banneker High School.
D. H. Conley High School.
East English Village Preparatory Academy.
Paine College.
Georgia Gwinnett College.
John F. Kennedy High School.
Seattle Pacific University.
Reynolds High School.
Indiana State University.
Albemarle High School.
Fern Creek Traditional High School.
Langston Hughes High School.
Marysville Pilchuck High School.
Florida State University.
Miami Carol City High School.
Rogers State University.
Rosemary Anderson High School.
Wisconsin Lutheran High School.
Frederick High School.
Tenaya Middle School.
Bethune-Cookman University.
Pershing Elementary School.
Wayne Community College.
J.B. Martin Middle School.
Southwestern Classical Academy.
Savannah State University.
Harrisburg High School.
Umpqua Community College.
Northern Arizona University.
Texas Southern University.
Tennessee State University.
Winston-Salem State University.
Mojave High School.
Lawrence Central High School.
Franklin High School.
Muskegon Heights High School.
Independence High School.
Madison High School.
Antigo High School.
University of California-Los Angeles.
Jeremiah Burke High School.
Alpine High School.
Townville Elementary School.
Vigor High School.
Linden McKinley STEM Academy.
June Jordan High School for Equity.
Union Middle School.
Mueller Park Junior High School.
West Liberty-Salem High School.
University of Washington.
King City High School.
North Park Elementary School.
North Lake College.
Freeman High School.
Mattoon High School.
Rancho Tehama Elementary School.
Aztec High School.
Wake Forest University.
Italy High School.
NET Charter High School.
Marshall County High School.
Sal Castro Middle School.
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School
Great Mills High School
Central Michigan University
Huffman High School
Frederick Douglass High School
Forest High School
Highland High School
Dixon High School
Santa Fe High School
Noblesville West Middle School
University of North Carolina Charlotte
STEM School Highlands Ranch
Edgewood High School
Palm Beach Central High School
Providence Career & Technical Academy
Fairley High School (school bus)
Canyon Springs High School
Dennis Intermediate School
Florida International University
Central Elementary School
Cascade Middle School
Davidson High School
Prairie View A & M University
Altascocita High School
Central Academy of Excellence
Cleveland High School
Robert E. Lee High School
Cheyenne South High School
Grambling State University
Blountsville Elementary School
Holmes County, Mississippi (school bus)
Prescott High School
College of the Mainland
Wynbrooke Elementary School
UNC Charlotte
Riverview Florida (school bus)
Second Chance High School
Carman-Ainsworth High School
Williwaw Elementary School
Monroe Clark Middle School
Central Catholic High School
Jeanette High School
Eastern Hills High School
DeAnza High School
Ridgway High School
Reginald F. Lewis High School
Saugus High School
Pleasantville High School
Waukesha South High School
Oshkosh High School
Catholic Academy of New Haven
Bellaire High School
North Crowley High School
McAuliffe Elementary School
South Oak Cliff High School
Texas A&M University-Commerce
Sonora High School
Western Illinois University
Oxford High School
Robb Elementary School



But Republicans love their "right" to buy assault weapons. More mass shootings, coming soon! Go GOP!


It’s just so many schools. How come America loves its guns more than its children? Aren’t Repúblican pro-life? Or does that end once the kids are born?

Why not learn the lessons Florida did after Parkland? And make wise EFFECTIVE improvements like Florida did?

They obviously love their children, and their guns.


What 'effective' improvements did Florida make? Arguing that four years without a massacre makes measures effective is like arguing the bear patrol works
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:10     Subject: Re:Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compilation of mass shootings at American schools. Unbelievable that people don’t care enough here to have guns only for people who need them for legitimate purposes

Thurston High School.
Columbine High School.
Heritage High School.
Deming Middle School.
Fort Gibson Middle School.
Buell Elementary School.
Lake Worth Middle School.
University of Arkansas.
Junipero Serra High School.
Santana High School.
Bishop Neumann High School.
Pacific Lutheran University.
Granite Hills High School.
Lew Wallace High School.
Martin Luther King, Jr. High School.
Appalachian School of Law.
Washington High School.
Conception Abbey.
Benjamin Tasker Middle School.
University of Arizona.
Lincoln High School.
John McDonogh High School.
Red Lion Area Junior High School.
Case Western Reserve University.
Rocori High School.
Ballou High School.
Randallstown High School.
Bowen High School.
Red Lake Senior High School.
Harlan Community Academy High School.
Campbell County High School.
Milwee Middle School.
Roseburg High School.
Pine Middle School.
Essex Elementary School.
Duquesne University.
Platte Canyon High School.
Weston High School.
West Nickel Mines School.
Joplin Memorial Middle School.
Henry Foss High School.
Compton Centennial High School.
Virginia Tech.
Success Tech Academy.
Miami Carol City Senior High School.
Hamilton High School.
Louisiana Technical College.
Mitchell High School.
E.O. Green Junior High School.
Northern Illinois University.
Lakota Middle School.
Knoxville Central High School.
Willoughby South High School.
Henry Ford High School.
University of Central Arkansas.
Dillard High School.
Dunbar High School.
Hampton University.
Harvard College.
Larose-Cut Off Middle School.
International Studies Academy.
Skyline College.
Discovery Middle School.
University of Alabama.
DeKalb School.
Deer Creek Middle School.
Ohio State University.
Mumford High School.
University of Texas.
Kelly Elementary School.
Marinette High School.
Aurora Central High School.
Millard South High School.
Martinsville West Middle School.
Worthing High School.
Millard South High School.
Highlands Intermediate School.
Cape Fear High School.
Chardon High School.
Episcopal School of Jacksonville.
Oikos University.
Hamilton High School.
Perry Hall School.
Normal Community High School.
University of South Alabama.
Banner Academy South.
University of Southern California.
Sandy Hook Elementary School.
Apostolic Revival Center Christian School.
Taft Union High School.
Osborn High School.
Stevens Institute of Business and Arts.
Hazard Community and Technical College.
Chicago State University.
Lone Star College-North.
Cesar Chavez High School.
Price Middle School.
University of Central Florida.
New River Community College.
Grambling State University.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Ossie Ware Mitchell Middle School.
Ronald E. McNair Discovery Academy.
North Panola High School.
Carver High School.
Agape Christian Academy.
Sparks Middle School.
North Carolina A&T State University.
Stephenson High School.
Brashear High School.
West Orange High School.
Arapahoe High School.
Edison High School.
Liberty Technology Magnet High School.
Hillhouse High School.
Berrendo Middle School.
Purdue University.
South Carolina State University.
Los Angeles Valley College.
Charles F. Brush High School.
University of Southern California.
Georgia Regents University.
Academy of Knowledge Preschool.
Benjamin Banneker High School.
D. H. Conley High School.
East English Village Preparatory Academy.
Paine College.
Georgia Gwinnett College.
John F. Kennedy High School.
Seattle Pacific University.
Reynolds High School.
Indiana State University.
Albemarle High School.
Fern Creek Traditional High School.
Langston Hughes High School.
Marysville Pilchuck High School.
Florida State University.
Miami Carol City High School.
Rogers State University.
Rosemary Anderson High School.
Wisconsin Lutheran High School.
Frederick High School.
Tenaya Middle School.
Bethune-Cookman University.
Pershing Elementary School.
Wayne Community College.
J.B. Martin Middle School.
Southwestern Classical Academy.
Savannah State University.
Harrisburg High School.
Umpqua Community College.
Northern Arizona University.
Texas Southern University.
Tennessee State University.
Winston-Salem State University.
Mojave High School.
Lawrence Central High School.
Franklin High School.
Muskegon Heights High School.
Independence High School.
Madison High School.
Antigo High School.
University of California-Los Angeles.
Jeremiah Burke High School.
Alpine High School.
Townville Elementary School.
Vigor High School.
Linden McKinley STEM Academy.
June Jordan High School for Equity.
Union Middle School.
Mueller Park Junior High School.
West Liberty-Salem High School.
University of Washington.
King City High School.
North Park Elementary School.
North Lake College.
Freeman High School.
Mattoon High School.
Rancho Tehama Elementary School.
Aztec High School.
Wake Forest University.
Italy High School.
NET Charter High School.
Marshall County High School.
Sal Castro Middle School.
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School
Great Mills High School
Central Michigan University
Huffman High School
Frederick Douglass High School
Forest High School
Highland High School
Dixon High School
Santa Fe High School
Noblesville West Middle School
University of North Carolina Charlotte
STEM School Highlands Ranch
Edgewood High School
Palm Beach Central High School
Providence Career & Technical Academy
Fairley High School (school bus)
Canyon Springs High School
Dennis Intermediate School
Florida International University
Central Elementary School
Cascade Middle School
Davidson High School
Prairie View A & M University
Altascocita High School
Central Academy of Excellence
Cleveland High School
Robert E. Lee High School
Cheyenne South High School
Grambling State University
Blountsville Elementary School
Holmes County, Mississippi (school bus)
Prescott High School
College of the Mainland
Wynbrooke Elementary School
UNC Charlotte
Riverview Florida (school bus)
Second Chance High School
Carman-Ainsworth High School
Williwaw Elementary School
Monroe Clark Middle School
Central Catholic High School
Jeanette High School
Eastern Hills High School
DeAnza High School
Ridgway High School
Reginald F. Lewis High School
Saugus High School
Pleasantville High School
Waukesha South High School
Oshkosh High School
Catholic Academy of New Haven
Bellaire High School
North Crowley High School
McAuliffe Elementary School
South Oak Cliff High School
Texas A&M University-Commerce
Sonora High School
Western Illinois University
Oxford High School
Robb Elementary School



But Republicans love their "right" to buy assault weapons. More mass shootings, coming soon! Go GOP!


It’s just so many schools. How come America loves its guns more than its children? Aren’t Repúblican pro-life? Or does that end once the kids are born?

Why not learn the lessons Florida did after Parkland? And make wise EFFECTIVE improvements like Florida did?

They obviously love their children, and their guns.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:08     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Why are libs so against armed security in a government school building?


Why do conservatives want to pay cops to run away when faced with danger
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:08     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
I don’t see Edmund Burke on the list of schools so presumably shooting at a school from offsite is not included, which makes sense I guess
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 09:07     Subject: Another gunman, another elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Why are libs so against armed security in a government school building?


We don’t want our kids to feel like they’re going to prison instead of school. Why are repubs so against gun control?