Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:33     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:Amazon’s offering up to $4k in travel expenses to help women cover the expense of having to go to a different state for medical care.


Oh wow that’s interesting. If a state tries to prosecute them for it I’m hear for that case.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:33     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer


Just stop.
The draft opinion stated
“To ensure that our decision is not misunderstood or mischaracterized, we emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” he wrote. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”

Miscarriage is an act of nature. It is not an abortion.


In medical terms it is an abortion. Are you unfamiliar with the technical definition of abortion?

At any rate, prove that a miscarriage wasn’t self-induced. That is what Republicans will start asking. Just as conservatives in countries that ban abortion have done. And if a pregnancy is failing but the heart activity is still detected, doctors will risk sepsis instead of terminating. As has already happened.



This. Any medical intervention during a miscarriage is labeled as an assisted abortion. You can tell that many people who have an opinion about this actually don't have the facts


They write like 20 year old boys. They probably are.


Nope. Older woman here who has actually had a miscarriage.

When speaking of "abortion rights," a miscarriage and abortion are very different things. While a miscarriage is medically referred to as a "spontaneous abortion," there is no "choice" in a miscarriage. It is an act of nature.
Abortion, on the other hand, is very much about choice.

Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a "spontaneous abortion."
Abortion is a term that refers to the termination of a pregnancy. This can occur with medical intervention such as medications or surgical procedures or it can occur on its own.

A miscarriage is called a spontaneous abortion, and refers to a pregnancy loss before the 20th week of gestation or the expulsion an embryo or fetus weighing 500 g or less. Miscarriage at this stage occurs in about 31% of pregnancies.


https://www.emedicinehealth.com/what_are_abortion_and_miscarriage/article_em.htm


Did you require medical assistance to complete your miscarriage? Because that assistance is what some of us are saying could be put in jeopardy here.


+1

Did the PP actually have a D&C for her miscarriage? I’m guessing not since she’s not familiar with the terminology.

It is considered an abortion. That’s how it is referenced for scheduling and insurance.


Yep, it is. Because the D&c is sometimes performed when there is a heartbeat. Waiting to see if it stops on its own is dangerous in some circumstances, like ectopic pregnancy.


“But God could create a miracle if you just let him!” say the Bible freaks. Trust me when I say, the idiots who are pushing abortion bans are deeply deluded and barely qualified to run their own lives. They are mentally incapable of understanding the nuances of pregnancies that are incompatible with life. Their brains are simply too wasted away from right wing delusion to comprehend it. These laws will be badly written and will result in death. I know that because the ones on the books are badly written, and are threatening womens lives now. The only thing saving some women is being able to go to the next state over. That won’t be an option for most women in the southern states come June.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:32     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Choosing to bring life into the world, or not, is a fundamental right. Prove to me it’s not.


God says it's not


Who’s god? Not mine. Not one I elected either.



Magical sky friend alert
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:32     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:What did I just read? The Numbers quote. Barley meal + dust from the floor is…what? A method of abortion? A way to exorcise the husband’s jealousy symbolically?

It’s a recipe for aborting a bastard child.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:31     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Amazon’s offering up to $4k in travel expenses to help women cover the expense of having to go to a different state for medical care.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:27     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer


Just stop.
The draft opinion stated
“To ensure that our decision is not misunderstood or mischaracterized, we emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” he wrote. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”

Miscarriage is an act of nature. It is not an abortion.


In medical terms it is an abortion. Are you unfamiliar with the technical definition of abortion?

At any rate, prove that a miscarriage wasn’t self-induced. That is what Republicans will start asking. Just as conservatives in countries that ban abortion have done. And if a pregnancy is failing but the heart activity is still detected, doctors will risk sepsis instead of terminating. As has already happened.



This. Any medical intervention during a miscarriage is labeled as an assisted abortion. You can tell that many people who have an opinion about this actually don't have the facts


They write like 20 year old boys. They probably are.


Nope. Older woman here who has actually had a miscarriage.

When speaking of "abortion rights," a miscarriage and abortion are very different things. While a miscarriage is medically referred to as a "spontaneous abortion," there is no "choice" in a miscarriage. It is an act of nature.
Abortion, on the other hand, is very much about choice.

Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a "spontaneous abortion."
Abortion is a term that refers to the termination of a pregnancy. This can occur with medical intervention such as medications or surgical procedures or it can occur on its own.

A miscarriage is called a spontaneous abortion, and refers to a pregnancy loss before the 20th week of gestation or the expulsion an embryo or fetus weighing 500 g or less. Miscarriage at this stage occurs in about 31% of pregnancies.


https://www.emedicinehealth.com/what_are_abortion_and_miscarriage/article_em.htm


Did you require medical assistance to complete your miscarriage? Because that assistance is what some of us are saying could be put in jeopardy here.


+1

Did the PP actually have a D&C for her miscarriage? I’m guessing not since she’s not familiar with the terminology.

It is considered an abortion. That’s how it is referenced for scheduling and insurance.


Yep, it is. Because the D&c is sometimes performed when there is a heartbeat. Waiting to see if it stops on its own is dangerous in some circumstances, like ectopic pregnancy.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:25     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:What did I just read? The Numbers quote. Barley meal + dust from the floor is…what? A method of abortion? A way to exorcise the husband’s jealousy symbolically?


We can mean whatever you wanted to mean and then you can create laws based on that meaning
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:23     Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

What did I just read? The Numbers quote. Barley meal + dust from the floor is…what? A method of abortion? A way to exorcise the husband’s jealousy symbolically?
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:19     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Every elected official should have to sway under oath that no woman they've ever impregnated has gotten an abortion.
And they should get mandatory 10 years in prison if they are found to have perjured themselves
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:17     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Choosing to bring life into the world, or not, is a fundamental right. Prove to me it’s not.


God says it's not


Who’s god? Not mine. Not one I elected either.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:12     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Choosing to bring life into the world, or not, is a fundamental right. Prove to me it’s not.


God says it's not


This is some crazy shit right here:

Numbers 5 King James Version

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+5&version=KJV


😳😳😳😳😳
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:11     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Choosing to bring life into the world, or not, is a fundamental right. Prove to me it’s not.


God says it's not

Read Exodus 21:22-25, where God makes it abundantly clear that a fetus is not in any way equivalent to a human life.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:09     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Choosing to bring life into the world, or not, is a fundamental right. Prove to me it’s not.


God says it's not


This is some crazy shit right here:

Numbers 5 King James Version

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+5&version=KJV
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:07     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Choosing to bring life into the world, or not, is a fundamental right. Prove to me it’s not.


God says it's not

God actually provides direction and specific instructions for an abortion. See Numbers 5: 11-31

+1 God aborts willy nilly, all the time. Sometimes for very good reasons and sometimes for apparently no reason at all. Evidently God regards abortion as sacred, a rite.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 09:05     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Choosing to bring life into the world, or not, is a fundamental right. Prove to me it’s not.


God says it's not


What does Santa say? Do you want him to decide what happens with my uterus?