Anonymous
02/28/2024 10:18
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
As the parent of a ECNL-RLer, I would argue that yes, there is a big gap between the best players on the NL and RL teams. But once you get past the first ten, the NL reserve players are barely distinguishable from the starters on the RL team. We have had players drop down from the NL team to our RL team, and those players have hardly been upgrades over the RL starters, if they are upgrades at all.
Anonymous
02/28/2024 10:14
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Better have kids being good students and getting into schools that way. The dream college soccer player might not be for every player. Is not an easy task.
Anonymous
02/28/2024 10:12
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
More emphasis on second teams is needed. ECNL National actually should look at ECNL RL as a source of potential players, not sure it happens at the moment.
Anonymous
02/28/2024 10:08
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?
Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.
Could be but you can only dress 18.
Why would the roster be more than 18 then?
We got a first-timer on here, welcome!
Different question. Why would girls want to be on a roster like that? Are the parents forcing them to be part of the "ECNL dream"? It doesn't seem like they'd get any of the supposed ECNL benefit from that type of arrangement. Kids only get so many years to play youth soccer, and this is just flushing it away.
The separation between ECNL and ECNLR teams in this area is enormous. It starts in the early years when the separation between the first and second teams is enormous. This is true at most if not all of the local clubs. So the bubble players are left with a really difficult decision, sitting on the bench or playing on a team that is massively less talented. If we had fewer ECNL teams in the area, the gap to ECNLR wouldn’t be so dramatic and players could more easily make the decision to drop down to play more.
The separation isn't really enormous, though. Local ECNL just isn't a high level of soccer like it is in other parts of the country.
The better McLean ECNL teams are top 100 in country (itself not particularly impressive). Their ECNLR teams generally aren’t even top 500, some aren’t even close to 500.
This is true for every club in DMV, not just McLean. The gap between the first and second teams is enormous. There are just too many clubs, so too many second team players are playing on first teams.
And/or not enough quality coaches in the area to develop second team players.
Anonymous
02/28/2024 10:07
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
97 pages.
We had gone through.
Brave vs Union
GA vs ECNL girls
ECNL Boys vs ECNL Girls
Boys vs Girls
USA vs world
What is the next topic in this thread?
100 pages here we are.
Dcum is the big winner. Fancy new ads lately.
Anonymous
02/28/2024 10:07
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?
Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.
Could be but you can only dress 18.
Why would the roster be more than 18 then?
We got a first-timer on here, welcome!
Different question. Why would girls want to be on a roster like that? Are the parents forcing them to be part of the "ECNL dream"? It doesn't seem like they'd get any of the supposed ECNL benefit from that type of arrangement. Kids only get so many years to play youth soccer, and this is just flushing it away.
The separation between ECNL and ECNLR teams in this area is enormous. It starts in the early years when the separation between the first and second teams is enormous. This is true at most if not all of the local clubs. So the bubble players are left with a really difficult decision, sitting on the bench or playing on a team that is massively less talented. If we had fewer ECNL teams in the area, the gap to ECNLR wouldn’t be so dramatic and players could more easily make the decision to drop down to play more.
The separation isn't really enormous, though. Local ECNL just isn't a high level of soccer like it is in other parts of the country.
The better McLean ECNL teams are top 100 in country (itself not particularly impressive). Their ECNLR teams generally aren’t even top 500, some aren’t even close to 500.
This is true for every club in DMV, not just McLean. The gap between the first and second teams is enormous. There are just too many clubs, so too many second team players are playing on first teams.
Anonymous
02/28/2024 10:06
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
This thread has more posts than any VRSC or FCV thread. McBunion > FCV/VRSC
Anonymous
02/28/2024 10:03
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just here to get us to the BIG 100 pages of back and forth!
Anonymous
02/28/2024 10:03
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?
Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.
Could be but you can only dress 18.
Why would the roster be more than 18 then?
We got a first-timer on here, welcome!
Different question. Why would girls want to be on a roster like that? Are the parents forcing them to be part of the "ECNL dream"? It doesn't seem like they'd get any of the supposed ECNL benefit from that type of arrangement. Kids only get so many years to play youth soccer, and this is just flushing it away.
The separation between ECNL and ECNLR teams in this area is enormous. It starts in the early years when the separation between the first and second teams is enormous. This is true at most if not all of the local clubs. So the bubble players are left with a really difficult decision, sitting on the bench or playing on a team that is massively less talented. If we had fewer ECNL teams in the area, the gap to ECNLR wouldn’t be so dramatic and players could more easily make the decision to drop down to play more.
The separation isn't really enormous, though. Local ECNL just isn't a high level of soccer like it is in other parts of the country.
The better McLean ECNL teams are top 100 in country (itself not particularly impressive). Their ECNLR teams generally aren’t even top 500, some aren’t even close to 500.
Anonymous
02/28/2024 09:57
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Just here to get us to the BIG 100 pages of back and forth!
Anonymous
02/28/2024 09:52
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Just here to get us to the BIG 100 pages of back and forth!
Anonymous
02/28/2024 09:44
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
MLS Next has rules, and they roster players per game. So, yes, they all play a fair amount of time if they are a FULL MLS next player. Please don't start the misinformation.
Anonymous
02/28/2024 09:44
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?
Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.
Could be but you can only dress 18.
Why would the roster be more than 18 then?
We got a first-timer on here, welcome!
Different question. Why would girls want to be on a roster like that? Are the parents forcing them to be part of the "ECNL dream"? It doesn't seem like they'd get any of the supposed ECNL benefit from that type of arrangement. Kids only get so many years to play youth soccer, and this is just flushing it away.
Sorry, your first question was open game, thanks for specifying. If you are not playing on pay to play team especially at GA/ECNL level then you are wasting your time and money in the pre-HS years. In HS, you could argue some benefits from training, and being in a competitive environment on a team competing for nationals, as long as you get minutes at Showcases. The problem is it can be difficult to gauge playing time from a parents persepective nor does it benefit a coach to over promise anything during these spring ID and tryout seasons. It's only to the club's benefit $$$$ to roster more than 18 players, not to us the consumer.
Anonymous
02/28/2024 09:42
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
97 pages.
We had gone through.
Brave vs Union
GA vs ECNL girls
ECNL Boys vs ECNL Girls
Boys vs Girls
USA vs world
What is the next topic in this thread?
100 pages here we are.
quantity over quality
Anonymous
02/28/2024 09:39
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
97 pages.
We had gone through.
Brave vs Union
GA vs ECNL girls
ECNL Boys vs ECNL Girls
Boys vs Girls
USA vs world
What is the next topic in this thread?
100 pages here we are.