Jury is in deliberation.

Sadly, I would not be surprised by a hung jury or even an acquittal. Many people in Arkansas are predisposed to like the Duggars since they are local celebrities and generally have a wholesome image. It's really hard to mentally accept the fact that someone you think you know could do something so horrible.
There's also probably not a high level of technological sophistication, so who knows how they will interpret the evidence?

Anonymous wrote:I think it depends on how late closing arguments go. I doubt the defense will take long, since they don't have much of a case, but the prosecution may be thorough to make sure the jury isn't distracted by all of the defense's speculation, and are following the clear timeline of "Josh's text messages put him behind the computer whenever CSAM is being downloaded."

I think closing arguments are limited to 30min each. Unless there are large gaps of time, it seems as if they could be deliberating by mid-afternoon.

Amy Duggar tweeted this morning "JUSTICE FOR THE CHILDREN." And Derick tweeted "Praying for justice."

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill never testified.

Do we expect a verdict today?

Closing arguments start today so probably not.

But the jury will begin deliberations today right? I think we'll know today if he's guilty or not.

I think it depends on how late closing arguments go. I doubt the defense will take long, since they don't have much of a case, but the prosecution may be thorough to make sure the jury isn't distracted by all of the defense's speculation, and are following the clear timeline of "Josh's text messages put him behind the computer whenever CSAM is being downloaded."

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Anonymous wrote:So Jill never testified.

Do we expect a verdict today?

Closing arguments start today so probably not.

But the jury will begin deliberations today right? I think we'll know today if he's guilty or not.

Anonymous wrote:So Jill never testified.

Do we expect a verdict today?

Closing arguments start today so probably not.

So Jill never testified.

Do we expect a verdict today?

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Anonymous wrote:When Josh is convicted, it is all going to be because of the liberal left and the fact that no one seized the damn router during the execution of the search warrant in the eyes of the Duggars.

They're going to blame it on Hilary Clinton's child sex ring in a pizza basement.

Jim Bob has previously blamed Biden.

It wasn’t Biden’s DOJ who raided the car lot, Jim Bob.

Anonymous wrote:Defense has rested its case, prosecution has recalled their forensic computer expert to rebut and clarify the defense "expert"'s attempt at muddling things., which was very poorly done but I guess could confuse someone on the jury who can't figure out which side of an iPhone is the front.

Apparently the culprit, according to the defense, could be "someone in Paris" who remotely hacked and partitioned the PC. And somehow caused the password to the partition to be the same as Josh Duggar's bank account. Darn those French hackers.

I mean technically yeah this could happen. The banking password wasn't complex and if they just went with the password that was the easiest and least complex to get then sure, they could have done it. But the prosecution doesn't actually have to make a case for that or even prove that. They just need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that all the evidence shows that the person is guilty of the crime of which they are accused. The defense would have had to make a much stronger case on this issue for me to be persuaded. Like there was a bust of a known ring of hackers who downloaded this kind of material and they were discovered to have been involved in such activities at the same time that the this happened on Josh's computer and so on. I have to wonder if the defense tried to get better expert witnesses and just couldn't find anyone who was willing to testify under oath regarding alternate theories or if they found that most of the experts said yeah, he is pretty much the one who did this ...

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe his lawyer didn’t advise him to try and seek a plea deal. The Feds have a very high conviction rate in general and I’m sure they will be crossing all their ts and dotting their is in something this high profile.

I guess a lifetime of doing this and getting away with it has made him falsely confident he’ll get another slap on the wrist.

From what I understand, a plea deal was offered and he declined it.

I said this upthread, but there are good reasons for him to go to trial, even if the evidence is as bad as it sounds for him. Juries can be a crapshoot. It only takes one crackpot juror to dig in their heels for some reason and refuse to convict. When I lived in Houston in the '90's my friend's ex-boyfriend was robbed of his wallet, shot, and killed. He was a County prosecutor. He was also Jewish. One juror refused to convict because the victim was Jewish. It was a shocking story. The defendant was re-tried and convicted the second time.

Or something crazy happens at trial and you get a mistrial. Or something crazy happens and you have grounds for an appeal. You take a plea and you cut off all of those possibilities. And all the while you are tying up the prosecutors with re-trials, appeals, etc., you can ask for a plea deal again.

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Anonymous wrote:When Josh is convicted, it is all going to be because of the liberal left and the fact that no one seized the damn router during the execution of the search warrant in the eyes of the Duggars.

They're going to blame it on Hilary Clinton's child sex ring in a pizza basement.

Jim Bob has previously blamed Biden.

Anonymous wrote:Is it likely there will be a conviction?

In my opinion, yes. The defense went to trial to try to defend the indefensible and the irrefutable. Juries are weird, and sometimes make illogical decisions, but I have faith they’ll see RouterGate for what it is.

Anonymous wrote:When Josh is convicted, it is all going to be because of the liberal left and the fact that no one seized the damn router during the execution of the search warrant in the eyes of the Duggars.

They're going to blame it on Hilary Clinton's child sex ring in a pizza basement.

Anonymous wrote:Defense has rested its case, prosecution has recalled their forensic computer expert to rebut and clarify the defense "expert"'s attempt at muddling things., which was very poorly done but I guess could confuse someone on the jury who can't figure out which side of an iPhone is the front.

Apparently the culprit, according to the defense, could be "someone in Paris" who remotely hacked and partitioned the PC. And somehow caused the password to the partition to be the same as Josh Duggar's bank account. Darn those French hackers.

Well as a French person, I'm miffed. Why did they pick on us? Is it the old-fashioned British idea that French people are more sexual or some crap like that?