Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 16:05     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Each victim’s family will sue and receive, what, $5M each?

Might the airline also successfully sue the federal government dba US military?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 16:04     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/29/us/plane-crash-washington-dc

Staffing at the air traffic control tower at Ronald Reagan National Airport was “not normal” during the deadly late-night crash between a passenger jet and an Army helicopter that killed 67 people, a preliminary Federal Aviation Administration report said, as bodies of the victims were being recovered Thursday from the icy Potomac.

The internal report reviewed by The New York Times said the controller who was handling helicopters in the airport’s vicinity on Wednesday night was also instructing planes that were landing and departing from its runways — jobs typically assigned to two different controllers. President Trump promised on Thursday that a thorough investigation would be conducted, while also engaging in political attacks on his predecessors.


This was not an ATC nor staffing issue.



Just because you say something does not make it true. I prefer to actually read cited news sources. You can go play around with your tinfoil hat.


At this point no one knows what happened - as emphasized by the NTSB folks who just spoke to the press. Not even cited news sources. If anyone or any news site is reporting cause right now, they are making it up. Everyone needs to hold their horses.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 16:04     Subject: Re:Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:New Orleans flight was right behind the American Airlines flight???


It was American 3130.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 16:04     Subject: Re:Plane crash DCA?
New Orleans flight was right behind the American Airlines flight???
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 16:02     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do military helicopters have blackboxes? Will they be able to hear the equivalent of a cockpit recording?


According to the news, yes. That doesn't mean the public will have access though.


It will absolutely be in the final NTSB report.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 16:01     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great pilot analysis. He seems fairly confident the Helo simply had the wrong airplane in sight. Literally did not see the other plane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgllf1L9_4


This seems like the most obvious answer. Was simply looking right when the plane ATC was referring to was coming from the left


Meanwhile on the radar screen….


Actually the plane they hit would have been ahead of them and slightly left, and the plane they thought they were looking out for would have been behind that plane a little further to the left.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 15:59     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Can't wait for what happens when lays off half the government and no one wants to work for it anymore. Carnage.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 15:59     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do military helicopters have blackboxes? Will they be able to hear the equivalent of a cockpit recording?

Yes they do but I haven’t heard that they’ve located either of the black boxes yet.


At the NTSB briefing they said they don't have any of the aircraft onboard data yet but they are highly confident they will be able to retrieve all of the data.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 15:59     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After hearing the NTSB chair talk for three minutes, I have more confidence in her than Trump or any of his Cabinet nominees.


She has taken 20 minutes to say I’m not telling you anything today.


That is much more responsible, and sensitive to family members, though wildly uninformed speculation (as spewed out by the Cheeto-in Chief).


+1, the point of a press conference today is simply to express condolences, explain next steps, and possibly answer procedural questions about technical stuff like who has jurisdiction over various aspects of the incident.

There are few answers to be found less than 24 hours after an event like this and there is little to be gained in rushing to provide them until you have had time to do some due diligence.

There is zero reason to engage in free ranging speculation and placing blame as the president and his lackeys did. It helps no one.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 15:58     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else struck by the almost total lack of helicopters in the skies today?


I hear them plenty in NE. It's unnerving on a normal day and even worse today.

Interesting. The maps show only 2 choppers over the entire city and one is at crash site.


What is this map, have a link?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 15:58     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:I pray that we will have a legitimate NTSB investigation and actually learn what caused this tragedy. It takes a long time for that meticulous process but that’s what I care about, the truth. It’s offensive to start blaming various forms of identity which have nothing to do with the individual choices or mechanical failures that may have contributed to or caused the crash.

BTW, CBC provides actual news coverage for those that might be interested.


wtf does that mean? Identity choices?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 15:57     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great pilot analysis. He seems fairly confident the Helo simply had the wrong airplane in sight. Literally did not see the other plane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgllf1L9_4


This seems like the most obvious answer. Was simply looking right when the plane ATC was referring to was coming from the left


Meanwhile on the radar screen….
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 15:56     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
I pray that we will have a legitimate NTSB investigation and actually learn what caused this tragedy. It takes a long time for that meticulous process but that’s what I care about, the truth. It’s offensive to start blaming various forms of identity which have nothing to do with the individual choices or mechanical failures that may have contributed to or caused the crash.

BTW, CBC provides actual news coverage for those that might be interested.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 15:56     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Great pilot analysis. He seems fairly confident the Helo simply had the wrong airplane in sight. Literally did not see the other plane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgllf1L9_4


This seems like the most obvious answer. Was simply looking right when the plane ATC was referring to was coming from the left
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 15:55     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
*pilot reservist. (Of a jet or helo)