I like Che, but they split pretty quickly after that scene. I think there is some heartbreak in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm angry about Miranda. What a selfish, privileged ass. I get that we all get in ruts. But she hasn't done much aside from quit her job and develop a drinking problem to get out of it. She full on admitted to Charlotte a few episodes ago that she was just as responsible for the lull in her marriage as Steve. I would be more sympathetic if she had said she had tried to revive their sex life but he had given up or something. But she said both let it happen and neither notice.

She is very privileged to be able to quit her job, go to school, and still live in that ridiculous apartment in NYC.

Good Lord. She worked a demanding job for years and paid for that apartment HERSELF. Is she supposed to work until she's in the grave?

Exactly. Working 100hour+ weeks for several decades can leave you without any time to reflect on who you really want to be, and what kind of life you really want. She never wanted to live in Brooklyn, agreed to it for her family's sake. Now her son is nearly grown and kind of an @sshole and she fell out of love with her husband (it appears to be mutual). She is allowed to want more out of her remaining decades than a life without vitality, purpose, romance and, yes, great sex.. Ffs she's 55 not 85 like Pp's grandma.

Anonymous wrote:I'm angry about Miranda. What a selfish, privileged ass. I get that we all get in ruts. But she hasn't done much aside from quit her job and develop a drinking problem to get out of it. She full on admitted to Charlotte a few episodes ago that she was just as responsible for the lull in her marriage as Steve. I would be more sympathetic if she had said she had tried to revive their sex life but he had given up or something. But she said both let it happen and neither notice.

She is very privileged to be able to quit her job, go to school, and still live in that ridiculous apartment in NYC.

Good Lord. She worked a demanding job for years and paid for that apartment HERSELF. Is she supposed to work until she's in the grave?

I'm angry about Miranda. What a selfish, privileged ass. I get that we all get in ruts. But she hasn't done much aside from quit her job and develop a drinking problem to get out of it. She full on admitted to Charlotte a few episodes ago that she was just as responsible for the lull in her marriage as Steve. I would be more sympathetic if she had said she had tried to revive their sex life but he had given up or something. But she said both let it happen and neither notice.

She is very privileged to be able to quit her job, go to school, and still live in that ridiculous apartment in NYC.

Anonymous wrote:Was the Stanny in Japan story line written before Willie Garson passed away? If not, why wouldn't they just write in his death? Too much death in one season? Sometimes that's really life though

My understanding is that they had a different storyline planned for Stanford to depart because they knew with Willie Garson’s cancer he wouldn’t be on the show much longer, but that they didn’t plan to have his character die. Garson had the leave production abruptly when his cancer took a turn for the worse, though, so they needed to change the storyline to explain his sudden departure and then rewrite the rest with Anthony.

Was the Stanny in Japan story line written before Willie Garson passed away? If not, why wouldn't they just write in his death? Too much death in one season? Sometimes that's really life though

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Anonymous wrote:When Steve cheated it had been six months and she was exhausted from her workload. In this case it’s been YEARS, for no apparent reason other than absence of romantic/sexual interest.

When did she say how long it had been? I missed that.

In ep 3 she told Charlotte she hadn't had sex in YEARS. Clearly the romantic relationship with Steve is done, just neither has had the courage to call it.

…so? My grandparents were married for 60 years. When my grandma died at the age of 85, I’m pretty sure the SEXUAL relationship was done, but you’re saying “romantic” like that means sexual. They were still very romantic and very much a couple, but I’m fairly certain they weren’t still having sex. Do you seriously think older couples should “call it” and no longer be married when they stop having sex?

Maybe? Miranda isn't 85, though. And she's at a point in life where she is trying to figure out who she is. She feels like she's been sleepwalking and now wants to be awake. I don't think the success of your grandparents' long marriage - and congratulations to them and you, it's wonderful! - means that she isn't allowed to try to actually live her authentic life for the next 20-30 years.

^ Me again - and interestingly, my dad who is a family lawyer tells me that he represents a fair number of retirees who are getting divorced. People sometimes reach a stage in life where they just don't want to deal with whatever they've been dealing with for decades, anymore. They've had enough and want a chance at a different kind of happiness while they still can. I can see the arguments against that but I can certainly see the arguments in favor, too.

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Anonymous wrote:When Steve cheated it had been six months and she was exhausted from her workload. In this case it’s been YEARS, for no apparent reason other than absence of romantic/sexual interest.

When did she say how long it had been? I missed that.

In ep 3 she told Charlotte she hadn't had sex in YEARS. Clearly the romantic relationship with Steve is done, just neither has had the courage to call it.

…so? My grandparents were married for 60 years. When my grandma died at the age of 85, I’m pretty sure the SEXUAL relationship was done, but you’re saying “romantic” like that means sexual. They were still very romantic and very much a couple, but I’m fairly certain they weren’t still having sex. Do you seriously think older couples should “call it” and no longer be married when they stop having sex?

Maybe? Miranda isn't 85, though. And she's at a point in life where she is trying to figure out who she is. She feels like she's been sleepwalking and now wants to be awake. I don't think the success of your grandparents' long marriage - and congratulations to them and you, it's wonderful! - means that she isn't allowed to try to actually live her authentic life for the next 20-30 years.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t need to see Miranda like that…so gross. It has nothing to do with Che being non-binary and everything to do with Miranda just looking gross, pathetic and past her shelf life. Ew. That whole scene was disgusting, not because of the physical act but because she was letting down her friend who needed her. It was so gross, so undignified, and how about she lost her shit when Steve cheated on her, but now suddenly being unfaithful is a-frickin’-OK. Gross.

Totally agree about Steve. I hope they address her hypocrisy on this point. In general I have been disappointed by her lack of parenting backbone and cringy behavior in class. I really don't know where they are going with this and why.

Where would you get the idea that it was ok? Carrie immediately called her on it. Miranda seemed defensive and confused. She's clearly looking to shake up her life but this is clearly going to have some repercussions she might not have bargained for. I don't think we're supposed to think that she and Che are HEA either - I mean maybe, but Che seems more like a stop on the way for Miranda's early-late life self-discovery. I think Che is necessary for Miranda even though this relationship is going to leave a lot of bodies in its wake.

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Anonymous wrote:When Steve cheated it had been six months and she was exhausted from her workload. In this case it’s been YEARS, for no apparent reason other than absence of romantic/sexual interest.

When did she say how long it had been? I missed that.

In ep 3 she told Charlotte she hadn't had sex in YEARS. Clearly the romantic relationship with Steve is done, just neither has had the courage to call it.

…so? My grandparents were married for 60 years. When my grandma died at the age of 85, I’m pretty sure the SEXUAL relationship was done, but you’re saying “romantic” like that means sexual. They were still very romantic and very much a couple, but I’m fairly certain they weren’t still having sex. Do you seriously think older couples should “call it” and no longer be married when they stop having sex?

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Anonymous wrote:Wait so at the end of episode 5 have we just zoomed forward 3 months?

Yes, the faster we time-hop the sooner we can get to Carrie having sex or going on dates without it being Too Soon for a Widow.

Yep. I’m good with the time jumps and glad Big is out of the picture. Their relationship never felt right and she’s much more interesting without him.

Ah no.

NP. Ah yes. He was worthless and toxic.

Agree. There was no meeting in the middle. She always pretzeled herself into his lifestyle not the other way around. Home was her studio apartment not his fancy park avenue pad. That was all him.

Anonymous wrote:They've ruined Miranda as a character.
I'm only 37 so I don't know yet but are 55 year olds really so "old"?
The women seem to hobble around, cranky and forgetful. They wince and groan when they run, walk or simply pivot. I was so glad charlee did burpees. She seemed slightly less geriatric than the rest

Charlotte doesn’t seem geriatric at all. She seems to be pretty much Charlotte. Her face is settling in and she’s obviously in good shape, wearing nice clothing—an age-appropriate but still very vibrant style that is just a continuation of what she has always worn.

Carrie’s “look” is too try-hard. Like we were supposed to ooh and ah when she walked out of the brownstone with that big poofy white skirt and those stupid booties. Or the dumbass hat in the last episode when she was doing the podcast. They have not evolved her look at all. The style is awful, the hair is awful—she should either go gray or have a GOOD dye job.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait so at the end of episode 5 have we just zoomed forward 3 months?

Yes, the faster we time-hop the sooner we can get to Carrie having sex or going on dates without it being Too Soon for a Widow.

Yep. I’m good with the time jumps and glad Big is out of the picture. Their relationship never felt right and she’s much more interesting without him.

Ah no.

NP. Ah yes. He was worthless and toxic.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait so at the end of episode 5 have we just zoomed forward 3 months?

Yes, the faster we time-hop the sooner we can get to Carrie having sex or going on dates without it being Too Soon for a Widow.

Yep. I’m good with the time jumps and glad Big is out of the picture. Their relationship never felt right and she’s much more interesting without him.

Ah no.

Anonymous wrote:KD's work has settled, she looks so much better now!

I wonder if she didn’t have the fillers dissolved after negative feedback. She looks her age, and really beautiful, now.