Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:57
Subject: Re:Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Lots of other countries don't require car seats either. So we can't require car seats?
1. Which countries don't require car seats?
Are you kidding? Much of Asia, to start with. At least in 2010, Mexico.
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:49
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
If the police had stopped and asked two little kids if they were all right and then let them go on their way, and then something bad happened to the kids between there and home, would lots of people be posting here wondering why the police officer didn't make sure that two very young children made it safely home?
Would they wonder why a police officer who had had a chance to make a difference just let two little kids go walking down the street by themselves?
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:36
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The cop saw the homeless man...and recognized him (so he knew if he is mentally ill or a sex offender).
Slightly tangential question ... why didn't the caller also point out that there was a seemingly homeless man who might need shelter or food, so that the cop could get involved in that?
it is not illegal to be homeless
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:36
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Could someone explain why people keep posting that it's illegal for the children to be walking outside without their parents? I thought the whole controversy here is that there isn't a law for this scenario.
The controversy is the interpretation of the regulations and the application thereof by CPS and the police.
In addition, there is also controversy as the families response to their interaction with the police/CPS, did they or did they not deliberately disobey what they agreed to do with the CPS.
There is also controversy as to whether or not having child supervision regs makes us a nanny state.
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:36
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The cop saw the homeless man...and recognized him (so he knew if he is mentally ill or a sex offender).
Slightly tangential question ... why didn't the caller also point out that there was a seemingly homeless man who might need shelter or food, so that the cop could get involved in that?
No shelters for day time. Just night.
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:34
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.
They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.
Six-year-olds used to be ok in that situation. Six-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation. Why are modern American six-year-olds different?
Are they really? There is no way my six year old would be ok in this situation. Does he know how to get to the park and home, yes. He can do several (as well as many other places) but just because he can doesn't mean it is ok.
We aren't talking about other countries. You cannot even compare given cultures are so different.
Why are other countries irrelevant? Six-year-olds are six-year-olds. Other countries have roads, and cars, and parks, and playgrounds, and strangers, and urban areas, and parking garages, and all of the other dangers to children.
So the age should be 2?
A parent should decide not the government. Remember kids 6yrs old were cooking, farming, cleaning, walking miles to school by themselves, and more.
Coddled 6yr olds can't ride a 2 wheeler bike, tie their own shoes, button their pants, wipe their own butt, pour their own drink, make themselves a sandwich, fold their own laundry, play out front of their house by themselves. The only thing that has changed is the parents.
Possibly one of the dumbest quotes on DCUM.
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:22
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Could someone explain why people keep posting that it's illegal for the children to be walking outside without their parents? I thought the whole controversy here is that there isn't a law for this scenario.
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:22
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:The cop saw the homeless man...and recognized him (so he knew if he is mentally ill or a sex offender).
Slightly tangential question ... why didn't the caller also point out that there was a seemingly homeless man who might need shelter or food, so that the cop could get involved in that?
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:22
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Here are two things that nobody has said:
1. two-year-olds in the US used to be able to walk half a mile (or three-quarters of a mile, or whatever) home by themselves
2. two-year-olds in other countries still are able to walk half a mile (or three-quarters of a mile, or whatever) home by themselves
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:22
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.
They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.
Six-year-olds used to be ok in that situation. Six-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation. Why are modern American six-year-olds different?
Are they really? There is no way my six year old would be ok in this situation. Does he know how to get to the park and home, yes. He can do several (as well as many other places) but just because he can doesn't mean it is ok.
We aren't talking about other countries. You cannot even compare given cultures are so different.
Why are other countries irrelevant? Six-year-olds are six-year-olds. Other countries have roads, and cars, and parks, and playgrounds, and strangers, and urban areas, and parking garages, and all of the other dangers to children.
and different politics
governments
different gun laws
different policing strategies
different crime stats
different city layouts
different maternity leaves
lots o' shit is different elsewhere
How about all the other states in America that do not have these laws?
1) I responding to the point about other countries being irrelavant
2) I don't care about the law - does not bother me to have it, would not bother me not to have it
3) I am not a paranoid freak who needs to find some random regulation to become my mountain to die on
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:19
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
The law doesn't apply to this situation, pp. Only supervision at home or in cars.
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:19
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.
They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.
Six-year-olds used to be ok in that situation. Six-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation. Why are modern American six-year-olds different?
Are they really? There is no way my six year old would be ok in this situation. Does he know how to get to the park and home, yes. He can do several (as well as many other places) but just because he can doesn't mean it is ok.
We aren't talking about other countries. You cannot even compare given cultures are so different.
Why are other countries irrelevant? Six-year-olds are six-year-olds. Other countries have roads, and cars, and parks, and playgrounds, and strangers, and urban areas, and parking garages, and all of the other dangers to children.
well ... check out http://www.focusfeatures.com/babies
So the age should be 2?
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:18
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Lots of other countries don't require car seats either. So we can't require car seats?
1. Which countries don't require car seats?
2. Why car seats relevant? We are talking about the ability of six-year-olds to handle a situation.
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:17
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Please post the law that says it is illegal.....
You know it's already been posted. Just because you're incapable of understanding it doesn't mean it isn't there.
It hasn't already been posted, because it doesn't exist. There is no law that says that it's illegal for a six-year-old and a ten-year-old to walk somewhere without a parent. There are only various laws and regulations that apply to this situation (according to some people) or don't apply to this situation (according to other people).
Anonymous
04/15/2015 14:16
Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If the kids weren't doing anything wrong, the police should have checked in with them and let them be on their way. Since what they were doing was not illegal.
They weren't being supervised. A 6 year old is not ok in that situation. If there were two 10 year olds it would have been a bit different.
Six-year-olds used to be ok in that situation. Six-year-olds in other countries still are ok in that situation. Why are modern American six-year-olds different?
Are they really? There is no way my six year old would be ok in this situation. Does he know how to get to the park and home, yes. He can do several (as well as many other places) but just because he can doesn't mean it is ok.
We aren't talking about other countries. You cannot even compare given cultures are so different.
Why are other countries irrelevant? Six-year-olds are six-year-olds. Other countries have roads, and cars, and parks, and playgrounds, and strangers, and urban areas, and parking garages, and all of the other dangers to children.
Lots of other countries don't require car seats either. So we can't require car seats?