Anyone watching the 2021 April reunion? I just watched it, and it seems like Amber is never going to pull herself together. I feel so bad for Leah. She is going to be able to see her mother losing her temper for her entire childhood. And I feel so bad for Amber that due to her own actions, Kristina is saying Leah wishes Amber would just give up on being in her life.

Anyone else uncomfortable watching Catelynn and Tyler talk about Carly? Catelynn kept talking about how she wants to write to Carly and include stamps and paper so Carly can write back to her "directly" and she kept using the word "directly" over and over. She couldn't have made it more clear that she wants to bypass Brandon and Theresa. Something about the fact that it's 12 years since Carly was placed for adoption and Catelynn and Tyler are STILL leaning on Dawn the adoption case worker, strikes me as odd. I wouldn't quite say C&T need to "get over" Carly, but they are emotionally suffocating. They should really quit the show so they can stop having a storyline based around a child they placed for adoption and to a certain degree, move on, in life. They seem, STILL, after ALL this time, angry at Brandon & Theresa for protecting Carly from having to think about being adopted. It seems like if Catelynn and Tyler had it their way, they would move next door to Carly, and she would sleep over at their house for half the week and they'd have split 50/50 custody of her, and attend all her dr appointments, school plays, parent/teacher conferences, ball games, Girl Scout meetings, ballet recitals, etc.

Amber took a plea deal

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/amber-portwood-strikes-plea-deal-for-alleged-machete-attack/ar-AAJEUlN?li=BBnbfcL

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Anonymous wrote:Look, he had a plan. The “texting” of 911, the recording of calls, the goading Amber, talking to other women, the scripting the recorded conversations, strategically leaking the recordings.

Another abuse excuser.

No. It’s saying both people in this have issues. Andrew is not innocent simply because amber was physically and verbally abusive. Her actions don’t absolve him of his.

Nope. There is zero excuse to be violent to another person. Your but but buts are nothing but excuses for domestic violence.

You are injecting some kind of your own issues into this. NO ONE has said that what he did excuses what she did. There is no excuse, justification or reasonable reason for her doing what she did. NONE. We agree on that. But that does not mean that he is a little innocent lamb. He has done some things also. I am NOT saying his things made her do her things or that his actions excuse or explain her actions. I'm simply saying yep, she did abusive things. Yep, he did bad things.

Re-read what you wrote above and learn some empathy for DV victims. Anything Andrew could have done is irrelevant. That you bring it up just further demonstrates you excusing the abuse. If you truly believe he didn’t deserve her abuse there would be nothing to say about him. The focus would only be on her actions.

Hopefully you never say things like this in real life.

Uh, so because he didn’t deserve the abuse means we aren’t allowed to say anything negative about him? Ridiculous.

It’s like saying to the person who has the affair that the demise of the marriage is all his fault. No, nothing excuses an affair. It’s awful. That doesn’t mean tho that the we can’t discuss things the other spouse did also. Life isn’t in a vacuum. This extreme poster is so focused on Amber’s abuse that it’s as if we’re all not allowed to see or discuss Andrew’s negative attributes. Doesn’t work like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, he had a plan. The “texting” of 911, the recording of calls, the goading Amber, talking to other women, the scripting the recorded conversations, strategically leaking the recordings.

Another abuse excuser.

No. It’s saying both people in this have issues. Andrew is not innocent simply because amber was physically and verbally abusive. Her actions don’t absolve him of his.

Nope. There is zero excuse to be violent to another person. Your but but buts are nothing but excuses for domestic violence.

You are injecting some kind of your own issues into this. NO ONE has said that what he did excuses what she did. There is no excuse, justification or reasonable reason for her doing what she did. NONE. We agree on that. But that does not mean that he is a little innocent lamb. He has done some things also. I am NOT saying his things made her do her things or that his actions excuse or explain her actions. I'm simply saying yep, she did abusive things. Yep, he did bad things.

Re-read what you wrote above and learn some empathy for DV victims. Anything Andrew could have done is irrelevant. That you bring it up just further demonstrates you excusing the abuse. If you truly believe he didn’t deserve her abuse there would be nothing to say about him. The focus would only be on her actions.

Hopefully you never say things like this in real life.

NP. This is sooo well meaning, and also SO ignorant of the often complex dynamic and "roles" played within an abusive relationship. It's not actually all that simple in many cases, and abuse is often more nuanced than Pure Monster vs. Innocent Victim. It's why not all abusers are abusive to everyone, why complex psychological dynamics develop within certain relationships, why someone might try to bait an abusive partner even though that seems nonsensical, etc. He ultimately doesn't deserve the abuse. Period. But that doesn't mean he has never contributed to a dynamic that allows an unhealthy, abusive relationship to flourish.

/DV victim

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Anonymous wrote:Look, he had a plan. The “texting” of 911, the recording of calls, the goading Amber, talking to other women, the scripting the recorded conversations, strategically leaking the recordings.

Another abuse excuser.

No. It’s saying both people in this have issues. Andrew is not innocent simply because amber was physically and verbally abusive. Her actions don’t absolve him of his.

Nope. There is zero excuse to be violent to another person. Your but but buts are nothing but excuses for domestic violence.

You are injecting some kind of your own issues into this. NO ONE has said that what he did excuses what she did. There is no excuse, justification or reasonable reason for her doing what she did. NONE. We agree on that. But that does not mean that he is a little innocent lamb. He has done some things also. I am NOT saying his things made her do her things or that his actions excuse or explain her actions. I'm simply saying yep, she did abusive things. Yep, he did bad things.

Re-read what you wrote above and learn some empathy for DV victims. Anything Andrew could have done is irrelevant. That you bring it up just further demonstrates you excusing the abuse. If you truly believe he didn’t deserve her abuse there would be nothing to say about him. The focus would only be on her actions.

Hopefully you never say things like this in real life.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, he had a plan. The “texting” of 911, the recording of calls, the goading Amber, talking to other women, the scripting the recorded conversations, strategically leaking the recordings.

Another abuse excuser.

No. It’s saying both people in this have issues. Andrew is not innocent simply because amber was physically and verbally abusive. Her actions don’t absolve him of his.

Nope. There is zero excuse to be violent to another person. Your but but buts are nothing but excuses for domestic violence.

You are injecting some kind of your own issues into this. NO ONE has said that what he did excuses what she did. There is no excuse, justification or reasonable reason for her doing what she did. NONE. We agree on that. But that does not mean that he is a little innocent lamb. He has done some things also. I am NOT saying his things made her do her things or that his actions excuse or explain her actions. I'm simply saying yep, she did abusive things. Yep, he did bad things.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, he had a plan. The “texting” of 911, the recording of calls, the goading Amber, talking to other women, the scripting the recorded conversations, strategically leaking the recordings.

Another abuse excuser.

No. It’s saying both people in this have issues. Andrew is not innocent simply because amber was physically and verbally abusive. Her actions don’t absolve him of his.

Nope. There is zero excuse to be violent to another person. Your but but buts are nothing but excuses for domestic violence.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, he had a plan. The “texting” of 911, the recording of calls, the goading Amber, talking to other women, the scripting the recorded conversations, strategically leaking the recordings.

Another abuse excuser.

No. It’s saying both people in this have issues. Andrew is not innocent simply because amber was physically and verbally abusive. Her actions don’t absolve him of his.

Anonymous wrote:Look, he had a plan. The “texting” of 911, the recording of calls, the goading Amber, talking to other women, the scripting the recorded conversations, strategically leaking the recordings.

Script:

“Ow! Stop! I’m holding James! Stop hitting me....You’re going to throw something at me and the baby?"

Portwood says, "I wasn’t attacking you Andrew!”

Yes, she said bad things and was physically Abusive. He was still gaslighting her.

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Another abuse excuser.

Look, he had a plan. The “texting” of 911, the recording of calls, the goading Amber, talking to other women, the scripting the recorded conversations, strategically leaking the recordings.

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I mean. On the one hand, I can understand how hard it would be to realize your boyfriend is just the latest user who has been leeching off of your reality fame. And he's clearly baiting her for maximum psycho rampage. This audio is supposedly from last December - why was he secretly recording and why did he hold onto it until 9 months later.

I don't see how MTV can continue to employ her after this. Poor James and Leah too.

This. He is no innocent. No one sits there egging someone on and is innocent. Your kid is there and the other parent is psycho? Pick the kid up and leave. Instead, knowing it is being recorded, he essentially narrates what is happening, "Ow, you hit me." (Who talks like that in a real conversation? It might be, "I can't believe you just hit me." or "ow!" but not the narration for the recording.) Then he would record things (you hit me in the car, you hit me at Leah's school, you hit Gary), all to get her to admit it. He is a low life and an instigator. I am NOT excusing what she said or did at all...but he is not a great parent either.

Yes you are. You just said he’s an instigator. Do you make the same comments to battered wives that argue with their husbands?

No matter what Andrew has done, Amber’s behavior is inexcusable. Period.

It is inexcusable...but he has bad behavior also. There is no doubt about that. A good parent would have picked the kid up and walked out. A parent planning on using the scene as ammunition in the press or in court did what he did - stayed and recorded it. They aren't mutually exclusive - meaning you seem to think I am saying her behavior is excusable because of what he did. I am definitely not. I am saying they both have issues. Hers are more apparent to the world, but his are there.

When you live in a house where you get hit on a regular basis, you don't leave each time it happens. Could he have left with his kid - sure. Just like every abused woman could just walk out with their kids. They don't. For a reason.

Anonymous wrote:That audio is extremely difficult to listen to, but I don’t see Andrew as having tricked her into having a baby. She like have said so LONG before now.

And the fact that she’s refusing treatment because she thinks she’s just a rill hard woman is beyond! That poor baby & Leah!

I thought she was implying he tricked her in the sense that he made her think he was a good guy who could be trusted. It's pretty clear he's not. But honestly how would Amber ever attract a nice normal guy. Plus she and most of these girls have never learned to be careful and take new relationships slowly.

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I mean. On the one hand, I can understand how hard it would be to realize your boyfriend is just the latest user who has been leeching off of your reality fame. And he's clearly baiting her for maximum psycho rampage. This audio is supposedly from last December - why was he secretly recording and why did he hold onto it until 9 months later.

I don't see how MTV can continue to employ her after this. Poor James and Leah too.

This. He is no innocent. No one sits there egging someone on and is innocent. Your kid is there and the other parent is psycho? Pick the kid up and leave. Instead, knowing it is being recorded, he essentially narrates what is happening, "Ow, you hit me." (Who talks like that in a real conversation? It might be, "I can't believe you just hit me." or "ow!" but not the narration for the recording.) Then he would record things (you hit me in the car, you hit me at Leah's school, you hit Gary), all to get her to admit it. He is a low life and an instigator. I am NOT excusing what she said or did at all...but he is not a great parent either.

Yes you are. You just said he’s an instigator. Do you make the same comments to battered wives that argue with their husbands?

No matter what Andrew has done, Amber’s behavior is inexcusable. Period.

It is inexcusable...but he has bad behavior also. There is no doubt about that. A good parent would have picked the kid up and walked out. A parent planning on using the scene as ammunition in the press or in court did what he did - stayed and recorded it. They aren't mutually exclusive - meaning you seem to think I am saying her behavior is excusable because of what he did. I am definitely not. I am saying they both have issues. Hers are more apparent to the world, but his are there.