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Anonymous wrote:Ok, checking in the SMEs and people in the know on this board. When are we going back to work? November 15th? This week?

When the Republicans invoke the Schumer Precedent and claim they can use reconciliation on this clean CR, just as Schumer did in 2021.

Huh? Schumer didn't do a reconciliation in 2021. A bipartisan CR passed in the House and then in the Senate, 65-35.

Republicans do not have the votes to do that.

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Sounds like Democrats are stupid to give Trump what he wants by not voting for the current bill.

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Sounds like Democrats are stupid to give Trump what he wants by not voting for the current bill.

The entire point of Republicans shutting down the government and not paying federal employees is because they want to destroy the Affordable Care Act. They very well know that increasing premiums by a 100 percent will force people off health insurance. And Republicans love that. Because Republicans are not good people.

I think this shutdown will last a long time. Republicans control everything - the House, the Senate, the White House, the Supreme Court. They seem very determined to deny health care to Americans who don't work for the government or a Fortune 500 company. Because Republicans are... unpleasant human beings.

In the end, once air traffic controllers go two months without being able to pay the mortgage and are forced to become UberEats drivers to sustain their families, it'll stop. Banks don't give a damn if you are federal employee. They'll take your house in a heartbeat.

This country shuts down when you can't move. The air traffic controllers are the ones who will decide when this stupidity ends. And meanwhile, these air traffic controllers and other essentials need to figure out how to live.

I cannot begin to express how much I loathe Mike Johnson and his swarmy cynicism.

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Sounds like Democrats are stupid to give Trump what he wants by not voting for the current bill.

The entire point of Republicans shutting down the government and not paying federal employees is because they want to destroy the Affordable Care Act. They very well know that increasing premiums by a 100 percent will force people off health insurance. And Republicans love that. Because Republicans are not good people.

I think this shutdown will last a long time. Republicans control everything - the House, the Senate, the White House, the Supreme Court. They seem very determined to deny health care to Americans who don't work for the government or a Fortune 500 company. Because Republicans are... unpleasant human beings.

In the end, once air traffic controllers go two months without being able to pay the mortgage and are forced to become UberEats drivers to sustain their families, it'll stop. Banks don't give a damn if you are federal employee. They'll take your house in a heartbeat.

This country shuts down when you can't move. The air traffic controllers are the ones who will decide when this stupidity ends. And meanwhile, these air traffic controllers and other essentials need to figure out how to live.

I cannot begin to express how much I loathe Mike Johnson and his swarmy cynicism.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, checking in the SMEs and people in the know on this board. When are we going back to work? November 15th? This week?

When the Republicans invoke the Schumer Precedent and claim they can use reconciliation on this clean CR, just as Schumer did in 2021.

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Sounds like Democrats are stupid to give Trump what he wants by not voting for the current bill.

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Sounds like Democrats are stupid to give Trump what he wants by not voting for the current bill.

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Sounds like Democrats are stupid to give Trump what he wants by not voting for the current bill.

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Listen to last week's The Daily on this guy (his background and rise to where he is). He is a narcissist and and psychopath. Seriously.

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Sounds like Democrats are stupid to give Trump what he wants by not voting for the current bill.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, checking in the SMEs and people in the know on this board. When are we going back to work? November 15th? This week?

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Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?

That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.

agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.

i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.

they left at 3:30 because they got in at 7. WTF is wrong with you? Stop being intellectually dishonest.

And when they were asked to come up with five items they did every week they threw a fit. That is literally something most private sector workers are expected to do without even being asked. If my boss sat me down, and asked me what I completed over the last week (with no warning or time to prepare), I suspect he would be pretty damn disappointed if I could only list five items over the 40 hours of work I put in. It’s basic shit like that which makes it damn hard to have any compassion for these government workers.

Working for the government should be a great honor. Staff should be proud of the work they have done to help the American people. They should not have to even be asked to provide a list of what they did in the last week, they should be excited to share how they helped the American people. And it should be obvious anyway.

It’s stuff like this that makes the vast majority of Americans feel like there needs to be a reckoning, that those who are just in government for a paycheck, who aren’t proud of the job they have, who don’t want to be held accountable, to go and be replaced by people who do. People who aren’t happy to sit at home with their thumbs up their asses when the democrats shut down the government, and who insist on coming into work to support the American people regardless of what their supervisors say, and regardless of whether they will ever be paid for their work.

Like a PP said, it was a huge waste of time to write the 5 bullets and required us to stop what we were doing to accommodate DOGE, which seemed to have no idea what the federal government does at all. We have to justify our existence all the time (we routinely get evaluated and we are always sending highlights to our managers — to include responding to Congress), so to add — under the rubric that some random kid named Big Balls would decide if we were “worthy” or not — to that was just too much.

Working for the government IS a great honor — which is why we do it and why we accept less pay than our corporate peers. But as you can see from what happened with DOGE, they randomly fired people — DESPITE knowing the 5 items — because they STILL did not understand (really, VALUE) what we did until after the fact, and then had to hire them back. It’s a complete joke.

Most of my colleagues are NOT happy to be sitting at home right now because we know we have work to do — I’m not sure where you are getting that idea. Those of us who are furloughed are actually FORBIDDEN from coming to work right now, BY LAW.

Right. I'm still working, because I am a federal physician providing direct care, and my group is exempted from furloughs.

It was almost impossible to state what I did the prior week in 5 bullet points without violating HIPAA, and still make it meaningful. I ended up automating five bullet points distilled from our US Code mission subcategories and called it a day.

What did they want me to do -- go into details about diagnosing appendicitis in a 2 year old? Write down the details of how to decompress a pneumothorax?