Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 18:15     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:

In the case of Thalidomide, they had ACTUAL DATA, ACTUAL RESEARCH and ACTUAL ANALYSES with sound, conclusive information showing that thalidomide was bad.

In the case of Common Core, the anti-CC folks have NO actual data, NO actual research, NO evaluation criteria, and therefore NO actual analyses to support any sound conclusive information actually showing that Common Core is bad or "developmentally inappropriate."


Where is the data, research and evaluation criteria to SUPPORT Common Core? Why is so much money going into Common Core?



Yet another deflection and dodge from the anti-CCers, rather than defending your accusation. You never met the burden of proof in your accusation. YOU FAIL.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 18:12     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:Some of these so called standards are insulting and some are developmentally inappropriate. These "standards" are a huge waste of time and money.


Again, for the 491st time, you have not presented any data, criteria, or evidence for saying this.

Your saying it over and over without any substance is a huge waste of time.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 18:07     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:Some of these so called standards are insulting and some are developmentally inappropriate. These "standards" are a huge waste of time and money.


The standards are developmentally inappropriate, except for the ones that are insulting!

What a rallying cry.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 18:06     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
CCSS.ELA-Literacy.RL.K.4
Ask and answer questions about unknown words in a text.

What's vague and unclear about it?

And yes, it's measurable.

It is not at all clear. And, no, it is not measureable.

What is unclear about it?

And yes, it is measurable. Can the child ask and answer questions about unknown words in a text, or can the child not do this?


Yeah, this one is bizarre. Do kindergarteners have this level of cognition where they ask questions about "unknown words" in a text? Aren't they still in the absorption phase of language acquisition? People at lower levels of language acquisition will often be in what is known as the "silent period" where they are taking things in, but not expressive yet. Being able to explain the meaning would be a higher level I would think. But I'm not a kindergarten teacher.


Is "What does that word mean?" developmentally beyond the ability of a kindergartener?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 18:05     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
Can the child ask and answer questions about unknown words in a text, or can the child not do this?


Way too much ambiguity. This is not a standard. These "standards" appear to have been thrown together in a hurry by people who did not know anything about young children or kindergarten.


Why is it not a standard? What would make it a standard, according to your definition? And what, specifically, makes it unsuitable for young children or kindergarteners? For example, are they unable to ask questions, or answer them?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 18:05     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
CCSS.ELA-Literacy.RL.K.4
Ask and answer questions about unknown words in a text.

What's vague and unclear about it?

And yes, it's measurable.



It is not at all clear. And, no, it is not measureable.


What is unclear about it?

And yes, it is measurable. Can the child ask and answer questions about unknown words in a text, or can the child not do this?


Yeah, this one is bizarre. Do kindergarteners have this level of cognition where they ask questions about "unknown words" in a text? Aren't they still in the absorption phase of language acquisition? People at lower levels of language acquisition will often be in what is known as the "silent period" where they are taking things in, but not expressive yet. Being able to explain the meaning would be a higher level I would think. But I'm not a kindergarten teacher.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 18:04     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Some of these so called standards are insulting and some are developmentally inappropriate. These "standards" are a huge waste of time and money.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 18:03     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Mommy, Dada, cup, juice, ball, car


Really?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 18:02     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Here are some frequently occurring nouns:

Mommy, Dada, cup, juice, ball, car

Here are some frequently occurring verbs:

go, see, say, come, eat, drink



Yep, kindergarten level---passed that tough standard


I didn't say it was tough--I said that you are basically asking if the kid can talk. It is ridiculous for this to be a standard.

Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 17:59     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Can the child ask and answer questions about unknown words in a text, or can the child not do this?


Way too much ambiguity. This is not a standard. These "standards" appear to have been thrown together in a hurry by people who did not know anything about young children or kindergarten.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 17:54     Subject: "Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests


Here are some frequently occurring nouns:

Mommy, Dada, cup, juice, ball, car

Here are some frequently occurring verbs:

go, see, say, come, eat, drink



Yep, kindergarten level---passed that tough standard


Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 17:49     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:


CCSS.ELA-Literacy.RL.K.4
Ask and answer questions about unknown words in a text.

What's vague and unclear about it?

And yes, it's measurable.



It is not at all clear. And, no, it is not measureable.


What is unclear about it?

And yes, it is measurable. Can the child ask and answer questions about unknown words in a text, or can the child not do this?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 17:48     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
Why is this a poor standard? Is it developmentally inappropriate to expect kindergarteners to use frequently-occurring nouns and verbs?


It's a stupid standard. You are basically saying that the kid should be able to talk. How in the world are you going to measure it?


But wait, I thought that the Common Core standards were developmentally inappropriate for kindergarteners? And now you're saying that this Common Core standard is stupid because all kindergarteners can talk?

As for measuring it -- are you able to assess whether or not a child uses frequently-occurring nouns and verbs? I am.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 17:38     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests


CCSS.ELA-Literacy.RL.K.4
Ask and answer questions about unknown words in a text.

What's vague and unclear about it?

And yes, it's measurable.






It is not at all clear. And, no, it is not measureable.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2015 17:36     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Why is this a poor standard? Is it developmentally inappropriate to expect kindergarteners to use frequently-occurring nouns and verbs?


It's a stupid standard. You are basically saying that the kid should be able to talk. How in the world are you going to measure it?