Anonymous
10/13/2025 17:34
Subject: Re:Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are Trump, Johnson and Thune so deadset against making a deal on the ACA subsidies? The public support for them is overwhelming. 78% of voters want them extended. 57% of self-identified MAGA Republicans want them extended!
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/snplus/health-and-medicine/2025/10/03/kff-health-tracking-poll-obamacare-subsidies-government-shutdown
The extension benefits red states far more than blue states. The insurance rate increases are going to be astronomical without the extension, over 75% on average. Republicans are going to get hammered if that happens. I have yet to hear a single rational (or even irrational) reason that republicans don't want to extend them. They mostly just avoid the issue entirely and don't even try to defend their position.
It has nothing to do with the shutdown
Of course it does.
Anonymous
10/13/2025 16:52
Subject: Re:Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Why are Trump, Johnson and Thune so deadset against making a deal on the ACA subsidies? The public support for them is overwhelming. 78% of voters want them extended. 57% of self-identified MAGA Republicans want them extended!
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/snplus/health-and-medicine/2025/10/03/kff-health-tracking-poll-obamacare-subsidies-government-shutdown
The extension benefits red states far more than blue states. The insurance rate increases are going to be astronomical without the extension, over 75% on average. Republicans are going to get hammered if that happens. I have yet to hear a single rational (or even irrational) reason that republicans don't want to extend them. They mostly just avoid the issue entirely and don't even try to defend their position.
It has nothing to do with the shutdown
Anonymous
10/13/2025 16:50
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This entire mofo is gonna last until Thanksgiving.
Yep. There is zero political pressure to get anything done. And now that the military is getting paid, that removes another pressure point.
It's basically up to the Air Traffic Controllers. When they decide to check out from their high pressure jobs because they need to do something else to pay the mortgage, it's over.
So basically, we are all waiting for Air Traffic Controllers to break for Congress to do their damn job.
Totally awesome political system we have here.
I assume that Vought will likely shift money around for ATC and this thing will be going until January at the earliest.
God I miss the Nancy Pelosi days. She knew how to handle him.
Other feds are going to have to figure something out if this is still going in a couple months. And lots of contracts that were funded for a month or two past Oct. 1 will start running out of money. The people who make the social security and Medicare checks go out will stop coming in. The contractors who do all the maintenance at military bases, including fixing planes and helicopters and vehicles will stop coming in.
Yep. My spouse supports the military directly. And they're being told to expect salary payments to stop soon. Voight etc. are taking money from other pots and moving it (not sure if they are reprogramming or doing whatever tf they want) to pay for the military folks, but not civilian. Not only is that a dick move, but MANY coworkers are saying that they "will not work for free." I guess we'll have to see how it plays out.
Anonymous
Anonymous
10/13/2025 14:59
Subject: Re:Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Why are Trump, Johnson and Thune so deadset against making a deal on the ACA subsidies? The public support for them is overwhelming. 78% of voters want them extended. 57% of self-identified MAGA Republicans want them extended!
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/snplus/health-and-medicine/2025/10/03/kff-health-tracking-poll-obamacare-subsidies-government-shutdown
The extension benefits red states far more than blue states. The insurance rate increases are going to be astronomical without the extension, over 75% on average. Republicans are going to get hammered if that happens. I have yet to hear a single rational (or even irrational) reason that republicans don't want to extend them. They mostly just avoid the issue entirely and don't even try to defend their position.
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/snplus/health-and-medicine/2025/10/03/kff-health-tracking-poll-obamacare-subsidies-government-shutdown
The extension benefits red states far more than blue states. The insurance rate increases are going to be astronomical without the extension, over 75% on average. Republicans are going to get hammered if that happens. I have yet to hear a single rational (or even irrational) reason that republicans don't want to extend them. They mostly just avoid the issue entirely and don't even try to defend their position.
Anonymous
10/13/2025 14:52
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?
That's another huge difference between the parties -
Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.
agreed
and that is why I always vote Red.
i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.
and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.
As a former fed manager I agree with the fact that there are some very "unproductive" employees. They all have manages. The issue IMO is the senior management and HR won't allow any meaningful discipline to occur. They'd rather pass along/park these employees and ignore them so the agency doesn't get sued. It's a big part of why I left. They ones who do work, are amazingly competent and dedicated and I really do miss their commitment to the mission and drive.
This happens every single day in the private sector as well. I don't know why people are acting like every employee at their non-fed job is a golden child genius. I have worked with a TON of incompetent idiots over the years who should have been fired. That's just the population.
And the nepotism and cronyism of the private sector: someone's kid, or nephew, or friend's daughter gets hired just because of who they know. Or who they sleep with, or whatever. Management blogs are full of questions like "my co-worker does nothing, but she's best friends with the boss -- what do I do?"
Come on.
Anonymous
10/13/2025 13:34
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?
That's another huge difference between the parties -
Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.
agreed
and that is why I always vote Red.
i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.
and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.
As a former fed manager I agree with the fact that there are some very "unproductive" employees. They all have manages. The issue IMO is the senior management and HR won't allow any meaningful discipline to occur. They'd rather pass along/park these employees and ignore them so the agency doesn't get sued. It's a big part of why I left. They ones who do work, are amazingly competent and dedicated and I really do miss their commitment to the mission and drive.
This happens every single day in the private sector as well. I don't know why people are acting like every employee at their non-fed job is a golden child genius. I have worked with a TON of incompetent idiots over the years who should have been fired. That's just the population.
Anonymous
10/13/2025 12:55
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Ok, checking in the SMEs and people in the know on this board. When are we going back to work? November 15th? This week?
Anonymous
10/13/2025 11:57
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Maybe when Trump is done celebrating the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas he can negotiate a ceasefire between Mike Johnson and Chuck Schumer.
swing and a miss.
Anonymous
10/13/2025 11:10
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Do we have any idea how long this will last?
Once people really miss a whole paycheck there is going to be a lot of pressure on both sides to do something. And that is about 2 weeks away. I remember in 2019 the Coast Guard wasn’t getting paid because they’re funded by DHS even though they’re basically part of the military.
Anonymous
10/13/2025 11:03
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do we have any idea how long this will last?
Sadly, very few people care.
Count me as one. Govt spending went from 4 trillion before covid to 7 trillion now.
That's almost double in 5 years. Enough of the nonsense.
You think this shutdown in any way curbs government spending?
Anonymous
10/13/2025 10:57
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Maybe when Trump is done celebrating the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas he can negotiate a ceasefire between Mike Johnson and Chuck Schumer.
Anonymous
10/13/2025 10:56
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do we have any idea how long this will last?
Sadly, very few people care.
Count me as one. Govt spending went from 4 trillion before covid to 7 trillion now.
That's almost double in 5 years. Enough of the nonsense.
Why do you think gold and silver are up so much? Answer- they will print their way out of the debt and deficit.
Anonymous
10/13/2025 10:52
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do we have any idea how long this will last?
Sadly, very few people care.
Count me as one. Govt spending went from 4 trillion before covid to 7 trillion now.
That's almost double in 5 years. Enough of the nonsense.
Anonymous
10/13/2025 10:26
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do we have any idea how long this will last?
Sadly, very few people care.
I'm trying to find some relief in the idea that Congress can't reappropriate more money without being in session. POTUS can bloviate all he wants, but there's less guarantee that any of the insane stuff coming out of him a'la King George III will actually come to fruition.