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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

If they work as hard as my wife does, they do deserve it.

They got what they deserved. They were given a CHANCE. Having a code doesn't mean you're guaranteed a ticket, only a chance to try to get a ticket. 2.4 million people got tickets.

What you’re missing is that my code gave me no chance because it was a freaking setup! That’s the investigation. It was literally rigged against me and most others who had a magic code to misery. Have you ever clicked on something extremely expensive for an hour straight and gotten an error? It was at its core humiliating.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

I got tickets for my daughter, however I am angry with the way this process was run and that people who really want to be at this show can't because TM allowed bots to snatch up the same tickets I paid $150 for and sell them for $1,000 a piece, which TM then profits from. That's wrong whether or not you got tickets and something should be done about it.

I listened to the new album and it seems to have some very mature themes now TS is in her 30s, as well as some rather adult language. Similar thing with Harry Styles. Does that give you pause? It seems that these singers have moved on from their teeniebopper phase, yet many of their fans are still very young listening to songs with very adult themes.

I listened to Alanis Morisette as a teen and turned out fine. Plus she's planning to play songs from all her albums, not just from her latest. That's why it's called Eras.

Put on Alanis last night because I’m craving that authentic no nonsense no sales strategy music and wow I knew every word and You Outta Know is an unbelievable song. “But you’re still alive!” Thanks for reminding me.

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Anonymous wrote:What I think is horrible is saying that those who buy merchandise from TS will be placed higher on the list to get tickets, because who knows how much you have to buy to demonstrate you are a "real" fan? In the end, that didn't seem to help. I'm glad I didn't fall for it. I had no idea how they would cross check between TaylorSwift.com purchases and Ticketmaster.com purchases, so I didn't believe it.

I have never bought merchandise from taylorswift.com but got extremely lucky and, on Tuesday, got 2 tickets for Philly after about 20 minutes.

Same. For NJ. Never bought anything Taylor, and this would be my first concert of hers. I do go to concerts and theatre shows a lot though, maybe that's why I got the verified code...

All 4 of my family members tried to get a code. 3 of us had Ticketmaster accounts already and had all purchased concert tickets before, including me. I previously bought Taylor Swift merchandise snd tickets. The only one of us who got a code was my teenage son who set up an account for this purpose. He has no interest in TS but did it for his sister. We were able to get tickets with his code.

Anonymous wrote:I was waitlist for the verified fan but I have a cap1 card so thought I may have a chance. Logged in at 2 pm sharp and was already in 2000th place. Waited for 90 minutes to go through the queue and there was one ticket available for $750.00. Needed three tickets total so has to pass. Frustrated is an understatement.

This is an issue that is getting lost in the rightful anger at Ticketmaster being a corrupt monopoly with no meaningful competitor to encourage it practices ethical sales. The tickets were INSANELY priced and Taylor had control over that. There are very few fans, “verified” or not, who are going to be able to actually purchase tickets for $500-$800 which is what MOST of the available ticket pricing was for those who were even able to get into the purchase queue. Combine that with hours of frustrated waiting and not knowing if you’d get a chance to purchase, some people probably made impulsive decisions to buy whatever was available once they finally made it in knowing how competitive it was and are now sitting on $500 *nosebleed* seats. I fully understand she can’t put on a stadium tour for $49 tickets but I spent $180 for Reputation tickets and would’ve even considered $300 high but fair for a tour of this size in a post-Covid economy of inflation. But the ticket prices were ASTOUNDINGLY high, which either completely shut out a vast majority of her fans base who couldn’t spend that, or pushed people into making unwise financial choices by creating a scarcity model of purchasing.

All around it’s a shame. Ticketmaster bears the brunt but Taylor is also responsible for the insane ticket prices that enabled her to beat her own record of highest one day selling for a tour ever. It’s opportunistic and ensures that only the richest and most privileged have access to live music.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

I got tickets for my daughter, however I am angry with the way this process was run and that people who really want to be at this show can't because TM allowed bots to snatch up the same tickets I paid $150 for and sell them for $1,000 a piece, which TM then profits from. That's wrong whether or not you got tickets and something should be done about it.

what % were bots?

Even ticketmaster doesn't know. that's the problem. 14 million users tried to enter the presale, when only 2 million presale codes had been given out.

They should not have given so many codes out, or should not have allowed a 6-ticket limit. 2 million codes times 6 is 12 million tickets! People sat on Ticketmaster queues all day only to be allowed in at last and not get anything.

Anonymous wrote:Verified fans should have used 2-factor authentication w/the cell phone used.

And only do one city at a time or smaller batches.

This. They needed to screen people before one could join the queue, not after, so that traffic would not have bee that heavy. Waiting in a queue all day only to see tickets disappear and be left empty handed or with 1-2 tickets when you needed 4 or with nosebleed tickets when you were ready to pay for floor seats is beyond frustrating.

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Anonymous wrote:What I think is horrible is saying that those who buy merchandise from TS will be placed higher on the list to get tickets, because who knows how much you have to buy to demonstrate you are a "real" fan? In the end, that didn't seem to help. I'm glad I didn't fall for it. I had no idea how they would cross check between TaylorSwift.com purchases and Ticketmaster.com purchases, so I didn't believe it.

I have never bought merchandise from taylorswift.com but got extremely lucky and, on Tuesday, got 2 tickets for Philly after about 20 minutes.

Same. For NJ. Never bought anything Taylor, and this would be my first concert of hers. I do go to concerts and theatre shows a lot though, maybe that's why I got the verified code...

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

Wait until their kid doesn't get into Harvard.

Maybe try to be nice. Why be nasty?

Because the hysteria here about a concert is overwhelming.

It’s about consumer protection. You might not care about it, but that’s what this is. If you think it doesn’t matter, then stop posting on this thread.

I lost in a lottery to get a quarantine space to return to my country for my father's funeral during covid. Losing out on a concert ticket doesn't seem too much of a tragedy by comparison.

I lost out on seeing my father before he died and guess what? I still think people can feel sad about non-death topics and would never invalidate their feelings or suggest their feelings or situations are “less important” than mine.

Your kind of comparison is unkind and a path to the bottom.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

I got tickets for my daughter, however I am angry with the way this process was run and that people who really want to be at this show can't because TM allowed bots to snatch up the same tickets I paid $150 for and sell them for $1,000 a piece, which TM then profits from. That's wrong whether or not you got tickets and something should be done about it.

I listened to the new album and it seems to have some very mature themes now TS is in her 30s, as well as some rather adult language. Similar thing with Harry Styles. Does that give you pause? It seems that these singers have moved on from their teeniebopper phase, yet many of their fans are still very young listening to songs with very adult themes.

How do you define “very adult”?

I reared my children to have brains so they won’t drink just because TS mentioned alcohol a few times.

Would “very adult” themes include gun lovers glorifying guns more than Jesus? Because that’s what I notice. Certain people love their guns, Tweet about their guns, lie about who might take their guns, and take the nice green money from the NRA.

Violence seems a “very adult” theme and not songs from a singer who mentions champagne or wine.

A coup seems a very adult theme, especially a coup in which a president threatens to kill his Vice President. But that’s just me and what I care about. Threats of death and antisemitism and racism on Twitter and elsewhere bother me more than a Swift song. Crazy, I know.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

I got tickets for my daughter, however I am angry with the way this process was run and that people who really want to be at this show can't because TM allowed bots to snatch up the same tickets I paid $150 for and sell them for $1,000 a piece, which TM then profits from. That's wrong whether or not you got tickets and something should be done about it.

what % were bots?

Even ticketmaster doesn't know. that's the problem. 14 million users tried to enter the presale, when only 2 million presale codes had been given out.

Then that’s on Ticketmaster. They didn’t require a code until check out which was a stupid, bush league move.

Taylor’s statement on the situation was very good. It’s on her Instagram.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

Wait until their kid doesn't get into Harvard.

Maybe try to be nice. Why be nasty?

Because the hysteria here about a concert is overwhelming.

It’s about consumer protection. You might not care about it, but that’s what this is. If you think it doesn’t matter, then stop posting on this thread.

I lost in a lottery to get a quarantine space to return to my country for my father's funeral during covid. Losing out on a concert ticket doesn't seem too much of a tragedy by comparison.

Then why TF are you posting on this thread? Go sh1t on people somewhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

Wait until their kid doesn't get into Harvard.

Maybe try to be nice. Why be nasty?

Because the hysteria here about a concert is overwhelming.

It’s about consumer protection. You might not care about it, but that’s what this is. If you think it doesn’t matter, then stop posting on this thread.

I lost in a lottery to get a quarantine space to return to my country for my father's funeral during covid. Losing out on a concert ticket doesn't seem too much of a tragedy by comparison.

So then don’t post here. This is classic monopolistic practices, which is why DoJ is getting involved.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

If they work as hard as my wife does, they do deserve it.

They got what they deserved. They were given a CHANCE. Having a code doesn't mean you're guaranteed a ticket, only a chance to try to get a ticket. 2.4 million people got tickets.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

Wait until their kid doesn't get into Harvard.

Maybe try to be nice. Why be nasty?

Because the hysteria here about a concert is overwhelming.

It’s about consumer protection. You might not care about it, but that’s what this is. If you think it doesn’t matter, then stop posting on this thread.

I lost in a lottery to get a quarantine space to return to my country for my father's funeral during covid. Losing out on a concert ticket doesn't seem too much of a tragedy by comparison.

Awfully judge-y for someone who is spending time commenting on a Taylor Swift post on a parenting forum.