Anonymous
09/21/2021 10:09
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s normal after a tragedy to analyze what went wrong. Not sure why people are saying otherwise. We do this after terrorist attacks, mass shootings, bad car accidents, other recreational activity accidents. It doesn’t mean the victim is a bad person or deserved anything, but we can still take lessons from what happened.
And predictably, no analysis of what went wrong in his upbringing, only obsessively nitpicking every one of her perceived flaws and choices. What did she do to cause her death, what makes her so stupid as to not spot the signs, she had it coming for wanting to be famous, not how did his parents raise an abusive murderer. Every time.
Every. Single. Time.
Well, I only have daughters. So I’m much more concerned with keeping them out of this situation in the first place. Maybe I’ll succeed and maybe I won’t, but I’m damned sure going to try. I’m not going to just throw my hands up and say nothing I do matters.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 10:06
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:It’s normal after a tragedy to analyze what went wrong. Not sure why people are saying otherwise. We do this after terrorist attacks, mass shootings, bad car accidents, other recreational activity accidents. It doesn’t mean the victim is a bad person or deserved anything, but we can still take lessons from what happened.
And predictably, no analysis of what went wrong in his upbringing, only obsessively nitpicking every one of her perceived flaws and choices. What did she do to cause her death, what makes her so stupid as to not spot the signs, she had it coming for wanting to be famous, not how did his parents raise an abusive murderer. Every time.
Every. Single. Time.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:59
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
It’s normal after a tragedy to analyze what went wrong. Not sure why people are saying otherwise. We do this after terrorist attacks, mass shootings, bad car accidents, other recreational activity accidents. It doesn’t mean the victim is a bad person or deserved anything, but we can still take lessons from what happened.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:58
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Does anyone know if the FBI has investigated this reporting of potential suspect on trail cam near border of Alabama?
https://twitter.com/ManOfTheLibrary/status/1440184356916527104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1440184356916527104%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeaww.com%2Fbrian-laundrie-disappearance-missing-hiding-in-baker-florida-twitter-deer-cam
https://twitter.com/ManOfTheLibrary/status/1440184356916527104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1440184356916527104%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeaww.com%2Fbrian-laundrie-disappearance-missing-hiding-in-baker-florida-twitter-deer-cam
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:45
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My richest family member didn't attend college. It's really not relevant here though if they did or did not.
Neither riches nor a college education is going to protect you from this sort of thing. You people need to go back to college to pick up critical thinking skills you missed in the first go round.
Well, financial self-sufficiency can factor into whether someone feels able to leave an abuser, so there's that.
Yes and no.
Unfortunately, domestic violence is something that is fairly consistent across all demographic indicators. You are just as likely to be a DV victim regardless of education, race, ethnicity, income level. It's sad. We have to change how society treats abusers.
My family made it possible financially for me to leave, but they had no idea they even needed to extend help because he had isolated and brain-washed me for so long. I had to want to leave to even consider the financial hurdle.
So glad you got out. Hope you're doing well now.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:44
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Social media didn't kill her.
Bagging groceries this summer didn't kill her.
A top notch job in DC wouldn't have saved her.
FOCUS on the issue of abuse and control by her boyfriend. It can happen to your daughters, even with your high HHI, safe neighborhood, and PERFECT parenting.
I'm not going to blame the parents but Gabby voluntarily walked into this 'issue of abuse and control'. Why was she living jobless and educationless at his parents house?
Look at her Instagram account. Dates back to 2017 and there are NO pictures of her with his family or relatives. Either they didn't like her or she didn't like them, but she only posted when she was on the road or vacation.
My theory is the it is very possible her parents kicked her out of their house. Her parents may have been trying to institute tough love on her, hoping she would grow up and become independent. She likely felt like she had no where to go and no family support, and thus is why she continued to take the abuse from for so long Brian. Being in a manipulative abusive relationship likely did not help her self confidence. So sad.
There was no reason for her to be in this situation. Even if she didn't want to follow a traditional education/career path, go live with your parents and don't slum with an abusive boyfriend for no reason.
My theory is the it is very possible her parents kicked her out of their house. Her parents may have been trying to institute tough love on her, hoping she would grow up and become independent. She likely felt like she had no where to go and no family support, and thus is why she continued to take the abuse from for so long Brian. Being in a manipulative abusive relationship likely did not help her self confidence. So sad.
Why would her father move from New York to Florida to be near her if they kicked her out?
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:36
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Social media didn't kill her.
Bagging groceries this summer didn't kill her.
A top notch job in DC wouldn't have saved her.
FOCUS on the issue of abuse and control by her boyfriend. It can happen to your daughters, even with your high HHI, safe neighborhood, and PERFECT parenting.
I'm not going to blame the parents but Gabby voluntarily walked into this 'issue of abuse and control'. Why was she living jobless and educationless at his parents house?
Look at her Instagram account. Dates back to 2017 and there are NO pictures of her with his family or relatives. Either they didn't like her or she didn't like them, but she only posted when she was on the road or vacation.
My theory is the it is very possible her parents kicked her out of their house. Her parents may have been trying to institute tough love on her, hoping she would grow up and become independent. She likely felt like she had no where to go and no family support, and thus is why she continued to take the abuse from for so long Brian. Being in a manipulative abusive relationship likely did not help her self confidence. So sad.
There was no reason for her to be in this situation. Even if she didn't want to follow a traditional education/career path, go live with your parents and don't slum with an abusive boyfriend for no reason.
My theory is the it is very possible her parents kicked her out of their house. Her parents may have been trying to institute tough love on her, hoping she would grow up and become independent. She likely felt like she had no where to go and no family support, and thus is why she continued to take the abuse from for so long Brian. Being in a manipulative abusive relationship likely did not help her self confidence. So sad.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:35
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Social media didn't kill her.
Bagging groceries this summer didn't kill her.
A top notch job in DC wouldn't have saved her.
FOCUS on the issue of abuse and control by her boyfriend. It can happen to your daughters, even with your high HHI, safe neighborhood, and PERFECT parenting.
I'm not going to blame the parents but Gabby voluntarily walked into this 'issue of abuse and control'. Why was she living jobless and educationless at his parents house?
Look at her Instagram account. Dates back to 2017 and there are NO pictures of her with his family or relatives. Either they didn't like her or she didn't like them, but she only posted when she was on the road or vacation.
My theory is the it is very possible her parents kicked her out of their house. Her parents may have been trying to institute tough love on her, hoping she would grow up and become independent. She likely felt like she had no where to go and no family support, and thus is why she continued to take the abuse from for so long Brian. Being in a manipulative abusive relationship likely did not help her self confidence. So sad.
There was no reason for her to be in this situation. Even if she didn't want to follow a traditional education/career path, go live with your parents and don't slum with an abusive boyfriend for no reason.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:34
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Too soon and awkward. But we need to stop kids from thinking they all can quit their jobs, sell what little possessions they own, and become “influencers.” That market is already super saturated. It’s harsh, but YouTube shouldn’t glorify two Publix baggers that drive into the desert and watch as bad things happen.
Kids? They were 22 and 23. Exactly how do you propose we stop them from doing anything?
By telling them they’re idiots and don’t call for money in two days when you’re broke.
This!!! While tragic and we have no idea what happened (regardless of what the scum sleuths believe), she appeared to have a nack for pretending her life was amazing. I wonder if she stayed in an abusive relationship longer, in part, because of the impact it would have on her “image” if she left and her “perfect” relationship fell apart.
+1
And money.
For the other PP's no matter how rich you are, abusers do exist. In fact, abusers are known for presenting one face to the public, and another face behind closed doors.
That's every Instagram influencer/Mom blogger in existence. All of them lie. Shanann Watts being the most recent famed version of 'oh my life and kids are perfect' until she's headlined on national news as strangled in her bed by said husband.
And this doesn’t even mentioned all the adultery and divorces. Look at Glennon Doyle, Jen Hatmaker, Eva Amurri, etc. It’s all fake. Duh.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:31
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:My gosh you people are all over the place. First her parents didn't do enough, didn't raise her to have a job, etc.
Now her dad was too involved, too controlling.
How about you just focus on the loser, killer boyfriend who is running from the law.
+1 stop blaming the victim and her family.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:30
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My richest family member didn't attend college. It's really not relevant here though if they did or did not.
Neither riches nor a college education is going to protect you from this sort of thing. You people need to go back to college to pick up critical thinking skills you missed in the first go round.
Well, financial self-sufficiency can factor into whether someone feels able to leave an abuser, so there's that.
Yes and no.
Unfortunately, domestic violence is something that is fairly consistent across all demographic indicators. You are just as likely to be a DV victim regardless of education, race, ethnicity, income level. It's sad. We have to change how society treats abusers.
My family made it possible financially for me to leave, but they had no idea they even needed to extend help because he had isolated and brain-washed me for so long. I had to want to leave to even consider the financial hurdle.
Yes. My family helped me leave too, and I was lucky that I succeeded in leaving on my first try. It takes an average of 7 tries to be successful. It's hard, and anyone who thinks they can "DV proof" their daughter/child is wrong.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:28
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Could this be him? photo stamped 6am 9/20/21. Baker Florida, on a trail cam.
https://twitter.com/eeve1990/status/1440170606423511040?s=20
No
That doesn't even look like him.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:27
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
My gosh you people are all over the place. First her parents didn't do enough, didn't raise her to have a job, etc.
Now her dad was too involved, too controlling.
How about you just focus on the loser, killer boyfriend who is running from the law.
Now her dad was too involved, too controlling.
How about you just focus on the loser, killer boyfriend who is running from the law.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:23
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Too soon and awkward. But we need to stop kids from thinking they all can quit their jobs, sell what little possessions they own, and become “influencers.” That market is already super saturated. It’s harsh, but YouTube shouldn’t glorify two Publix baggers that drive into the desert and watch as bad things happen.
Kids? They were 22 and 23. Exactly how do you propose we stop them from doing anything?
By telling them they’re idiots and don’t call for money in two days when you’re broke.
This!!! While tragic and we have no idea what happened (regardless of what the scum sleuths believe), she appeared to have a nack for pretending her life was amazing. I wonder if she stayed in an abusive relationship longer, in part, because of the impact it would have on her “image” if she left and her “perfect” relationship fell apart.
+1
And money.
For the other PP's no matter how rich you are, abusers do exist. In fact, abusers are known for presenting one face to the public, and another face behind closed doors.
Perhaps. The whole idea behind the YouTube channel and blog was nomadic life. She may not have felt equipped to do that on her own and may not have had anyone else in her life who could/would go with her. She stated in the body cam video that he primarily "drove the bus." Without the bus and nomadic life, the channel, blog, TikTok, etc., fall apart.
Anonymous
09/21/2021 09:22
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My richest family member didn't attend college. It's really not relevant here though if they did or did not.
Neither riches nor a college education is going to protect you from this sort of thing. You people need to go back to college to pick up critical thinking skills you missed in the first go round.
Well, financial self-sufficiency can factor into whether someone feels able to leave an abuser, so there's that.
You are wrong. /domestic abuse survivor
No, you are. It can definitely play a role. /domestic abuse survivor
Come on. You are both right. Because every situation is different. It is awful and complicated and ANYONE can fall prey to an abuser. I am also an abuse survivor.