Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 17:03     Subject: Re:Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Donald Trump Suffers Shock Poll in Florida
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-polling-florida-swing-states-1925789

Donald Trump's Chances of Winning Election Are Declining
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-polling-data-five-thirty-eight-1926226

Folks, this is a tied race. Everything is within margin of error. Even Florida. And, frankly, polling response rates have plummeted in the past 20 years so we really are not sampling a representative electorate.

Vote and see what happens.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:27     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers
I hated HRC. I actually hate Harris even more however. I hate Trump. I actually hate the idea of a senile man rep us globally aka Biden, even more.

There you have it - as much as I hate the GOP I cannot vote Dem. Unless for a new candidate.

Where I differ from most Dems is I think the legislation is coming from a GOP Congress v Trump leading the Rep charge. I thing he is in his own world and nuts but most of the right wing platform is there regardless of who is leading the charge. Even if Nikki was running, the platform would be same as it is now, so it's
Not really about sending Trump away as it is the Dems have lost a lot of their power. I just don't trust or want to be rep by Dem candidates we have currently. The legislative fight is about Congress not POTUS.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:18     Subject: Re:Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harris is URM Hillary Clinton, right down to the unflattering pantsuits. She has more passionate "no" votes than lukewarm to cold "yes" votes. Not a great speaker and like HRC grates on the nerves. Unappealing to a national vote.


+1. I think she's fine, but the people who disliked Hillary will double dislike Harris. It's sad.


Sure but those same people might also like women like Whitmer, Haley, Tulsi. It’s a feature of the personality of those two women not women in general.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:18     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Anonymous wrote:I’m center left and cannot vote for someone who reminds me of my mother who has dementia. So I will be voting Trump unless Dems offer a viable alternative.

I like GOP’s focus on helping the cities that have been wipes out due to globalization, and focus on family and good values.

So cute when MAGAs try to pretend.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:18     Subject: Re:Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The polls were totally wrong in France and the far right did not win. I don’t believe any of these polls.


French person here.

The polls were actually very accurate, but the French have long employed a voting barrier against the extreme-right, in the following way: in the second and final round, if a district race seemed like it could elect a far-right representative, the other parties agreed that the one with the least votes would bow out of the second round so that people could vote for the other party just to prevent the far-right from winning. It's called a triangular election: Say the left has the most votes, the far-right comes a close second, and the center comes third, at the end of the first round. The centrist candidate bows out, leaving the field to his lefty colleague and all the centrist voters vote for the left instead of the far-right. The left wins. If the centrist candidate had maintained his candidacy, it would split the vote, and the far-right could win. Historically, this method of protecting France against far-right encroachment has been called the Republican Front, and it's been used many times in several elections before. The idea is that nothing could be worse than the hateful, racist and neo-Nazi rhetoric of the extreme right, not even the Communists, and it comes from our collective WWII trauma.

The fear for this particular election was that with the ascent of the new, young and photogenic far-right leader, Jordan Bardella, as well as the extreme divisions among the French, this Republican Front would not hold. For the time being, we squeaked by once again... phew!



What is the difference between right and far right?
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:17     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden losing every Battleground state.

VA, NH, NJ are in play as well..

https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states


Moderate dems will never move off Biden. They would rather keep the status quo- ie do nothing.


MSN just reported Trump leading in VA by 3. He should be losing there by 10 points, not leading..


John King of CNN is a saying 330 electoral votes for Trump if election was today!!!!

And he knows his numbers.

Just like he knew them in 2022?
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:16     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Anonymous wrote:Doesn't look like Trump has gotten much of a "sympathy bump" at all after getting his ear clipped.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/president/general-election

Now let's give it a few more days to see what happens as a result of getting Vance.


It’s pretty disgusting to refer to an assassination attempt as “getting his ear clipped” but pretty normal for the liberals on this board.

Trump doesn’t need a bump. It’s Biden trailing in the polls. He is even three points behind in Va.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:09     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Doesn't look like Trump has gotten much of a "sympathy bump" at all after getting his ear clipped.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/president/general-election

Now let's give it a few more days to see what happens as a result of getting Vance.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:08     Subject: Re:Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harris is URM Hillary Clinton, right down to the unflattering pantsuits. She has more passionate "no" votes than lukewarm to cold "yes" votes. Not a great speaker and like HRC grates on the nerves. Unappealing to a national vote.


+1. I think she's fine, but the people who disliked Hillary will double dislike Harris. It's sad.


I actually prefer her her to HRC. She seems friendlier and more relatable.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:04     Subject: Re:Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Anonymous wrote:Harris is URM Hillary Clinton, right down to the unflattering pantsuits. She has more passionate "no" votes than lukewarm to cold "yes" votes. Not a great speaker and like HRC grates on the nerves. Unappealing to a national vote.


+1. I think she's fine, but the people who disliked Hillary will double dislike Harris. It's sad.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 16:02     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers
https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/trump-leads-biden-in-virginia-according-to-new-poll/article_75bb71e8-439a-11ef-a62d-73fd762ae5bc.html

This shows Biden’s support in VA is below 50% and there is a huge enthusiasm gap. Many won’t even come out and vote.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 15:58     Subject: Re:Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Harris is URM Hillary Clinton, right down to the unflattering pantsuits. She has more passionate "no" votes than lukewarm to cold "yes" votes. Not a great speaker and like HRC grates on the nerves. Unappealing to a national vote.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 15:24     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now Adam Schiff is saying Biden should drop out of race.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/17/politics/adam-schiff-joe-biden-congress/index.html


Courageous man. I've admired him ever since he participated in the Jan 6 commission. His is not a swing seat, BTW. He is also close to Pelosi, which tells you what she really thinks.

I hope others follow suit.


Would we then be stuck with Harris? Who would be the new Dem running?? Harris would not improve the poll numbers.


Harris is the Democratic candidate who has the best chance. Not a good chance, but the best we have.
Trump has anywhere from 50-100% chance of being President. 100% if Biden stays, 50% if Harris is the nominee, and anything in between if it's a different candidate.

Money matters, especially this close to the election. Money is what pays for ads and boots-on-the-ground campaigns, and those two are what energizes voters. You fear Harris isn't creating enthusiasm, but that's because she hasn't been allowed to get started, and there is no political machine behind selling her as Presidential nominee yet.

It's going to be a little tough to transfer Biden's war chest to anyone but Harris, who is already part of his staff. Harris has THE biggest advantage compared to her rivals - she has the money, if Biden relinquishes the nomination. She can use it immediately, as soon as the campaign rolls out Harris ads, prints out merch and gets out the vote.

Identity politics matter: Harris is a woman of color, both Black and Asian. She has ENORMOUS potential in all those demographics, some of which were only lukewarm towards Biden.

Give her a chance. You have ZERO chance of a Democratic Presidency with Biden.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 15:15     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Anonymous wrote:I’m center left and cannot vote for someone who reminds me of my mother who has dementia. So I will be voting Trump unless Dems offer a viable alternative.

I like GOP’s focus on helping the cities that have been wipes out due to globalization, and focus on family and good values.

Wow. Right wing kool aid from top to bottom, “center left.” Trump literally has the same dementia his father had before him.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 15:14     Subject: Re:Biden’s latest Poll numbers
Anonymous wrote:The polls were totally wrong in France and the far right did not win. I don’t believe any of these polls.


French person here.

The polls were actually very accurate, but the French have long employed a voting barrier against the extreme-right, in the following way: in the second and final round, if a district race seemed like it could elect a far-right representative, the other parties agreed that the one with the least votes would bow out of the second round so that people could vote for the other party just to prevent the far-right from winning. It's called a triangular election: Say the left has the most votes, the far-right comes a close second, and the center comes third, at the end of the first round. The centrist candidate bows out, leaving the field to his lefty colleague and all the centrist voters vote for the left instead of the far-right. The left wins. If the centrist candidate had maintained his candidacy, it would split the vote, and the far-right could win. Historically, this method of protecting France against far-right encroachment has been called the Republican Front, and it's been used many times in several elections before. The idea is that nothing could be worse than the hateful, racist and neo-Nazi rhetoric of the extreme right, not even the Communists, and it comes from our collective WWII trauma.

The fear for this particular election was that with the ascent of the new, young and photogenic far-right leader, Jordan Bardella, as well as the extreme divisions among the French, this Republican Front would not hold. For the time being, we squeaked by once again... phew!