Anonymous
07/29/2022 12:04
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just disband it in favor of school by school aap
You don't seem to understand what TJ is or the specialized classes that it offers. There are classes that can only be offered at J because of the expense of the specific labs and lab material. They also require students complete a series of more advanced math classes earlier in their high school career in order to participate in the classes. My kid is going to attend SL for high school, it had to add a math class beyond Calculus when Fox Mill was redistricted to SL because there were more kids coming out of Fox Mill who were eligible for Algebra in 7th grade and 8th and completed the math classes offered at SL by their Junior or Senior year. There is no way that SL has the resources to provide TJ style classes to their advanced math students. First, there are not enough students to justify the classes. Second they are too expensive to run at the school. Schools like McLean and Langley might have the students to take those classes but the cost of the labs and materials is too expensive for those schools.
The expensive labs is a great argument for why it should be an academy available to more students.
Bingo. It's insane how so many self-styled progressives seem to be among those most in favor of limiting the number of kids with access to TJ classes because they are so invested in the idea of touting a rainbow coalition TJ as the county's top full-time school.
...it cannot be both an academy and a full-service high school, and the uniqueness of TJ even from an academic perspective is not limited to what is taught in the STEM classrooms.
You cannot simultaneously understand what TJ is, has been at its best, and should be in the future and advocate for it to be converted to an academy. Your better course of action is to advocate for the building of a second magnet STEM high school, likely in the western part of the county.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 18:38
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?
They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.
Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.
What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.
In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).
Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.
Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.
Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.
I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.
Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.
So better to eliminate elections because there are a few instances of fraud?
Throw the book at Curie. Make them pay through the nose and if there is any evidence of fraud, lock up everyone responsible.
FCPS side, you can make tests that do not repeat the same questions every year. I heard there are tests like that.
There is no need to eliminate teacher recommendations. There is none. No justification. But FCPS did that.
I can also point to one clear case of fraudulent admission to TJ in the class of 2025. Teacher recommendation would have 100% caught that case. I know because the science teacher recommendation letter that they would have had to provide would be a ding.
But woke social justice warriors - the exact equivalent of Trump nut job bleach drinking retard supporters, wanted to jump on Floyd wagon and promote their agenda.
This is how you get a liberal left wing supporter to contribute and vote for Trump.
There are SAT sample questions at SAT prep classes! Maybe TJ should have put some work to put together a test with non-standard math questions...
It is so sad that such false equivalences and bad faith are being employed to pull down kids who are doing math. to favor kids who don't do the work but want to write essays. truly counterproductive for society.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 16:55
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?
They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.
Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.
What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.
In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).
Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.
Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.
Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.
Nope. The MAGAs are behind the C4TJ lies.
No doubt many of them are in the MAGA crowd, but C4TJ is just a front for the prep centers who stand to loose 8-9 figures of income because of these changes.
In this world people have to choose between only two options, believe in fake election or allow unmonitored essay writing competition for artificial social engineering (which is no different than using bleach to cure covid)
Anonymous
07/28/2022 16:51
Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Recent comments seem to forget that TJ is a stem school not a normal high school
Another false choice. TJ is absolutely a normal full-service high school, complete with all of the opportunities that come at a normal high school. It has an arts program, an athletic program, and an extracurricular program that frankly puts all other high schools in the area to shame because of the flexibility that 8th period provides.
It is special and unique amongst all of the other STEM schools that are out there precisely because the remarkable opportunities within its building exist within the context of an otherwise normal high school.
Yeah that's not what the purpose of the school is sorry
If it were only a STEM school, it would be no better than AOS or AET or any of the hundreds of STEM charter schools out there. Sometimes I actually think that a few of the folks on this board who favor converting it to an academy are seeking to reduce its standing to elevate the schools in Loudoun that their kids could get into.
Thank god the pro-reformers also gete this!, stop wasting 100s of millions on STEM facilities on TJ - just keep it for essay writing academy (at least some of those courses can be spread across existing ones)
Anonymous
07/28/2022 09:18
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why stop at trying to nab the TJ targeted group - why not expand the audit to all of FCPS? Oh, because we know which group is being targeted here. It's like more discrimination sprinkled on a discrimination sundae. Check this groups free lunch, but not the others. Sure hope that works out well in potential litigation.
Meals were free for everyone last year so there was no need for people to apply. The only people they are following up on are the people who applied for TJ since checking that you received free meals gained people an experience points bonus on their application.
I would be surprised if there was too much fraud on the FARMs forms across FCPS because those programs require filling out government paperwork with a promise of punishment if you defraud the government. People have to provide verification that they meet the programs qualifications when they apply which would require that they gin up false paperwork to submit to the government. It is more challenging then simply ticking a box on an application for a magnet high school. I expect that the government entities running social welfare programs, like FARMs, are doing their best to screen for fraudulent applications as families submit them.
In answer to your specific question then
1) There was no need to do a county wide check for fraud because the County provided free meals for all kids regardless
2) No because it is the Counties responsibility to check the submitted paperwork for fraud and not the School Districts
3) The only people whose status mattered where the kids who checked yes on the TJ application because it gave them bonus points for acceptance.
I'd rather they spend their limited resources on educating children than foolish investigations that will have little to no impact.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 09:16
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?
They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.
Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.
What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.
In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).
Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.
Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.
Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.
Nope. The MAGAs are behind the C4TJ lies.
No doubt many of them are in the MAGA crowd, but C4TJ is just a front for the prep centers who stand to loose 8-9 figures of income because of these changes.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 09:10
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?
They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.
Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.
What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.
In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).
Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.
Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.
Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.
Nope. The MAGAs are behind the C4TJ lies.
The TJAAGs are virtue-signaling phonies.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 08:55
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Why stop at trying to nab the TJ targeted group - why not expand the audit to all of FCPS? Oh, because we know which group is being targeted here. It's like more discrimination sprinkled on a discrimination sundae. Check this groups free lunch, but not the others. Sure hope that works out well in potential litigation.
Meals were free for everyone last year so there was no need for people to apply. The only people they are following up on are the people who applied for TJ since checking that you received free meals gained people an experience points bonus on their application.
I would be surprised if there was too much fraud on the FARMs forms across FCPS because those programs require filling out government paperwork with a promise of punishment if you defraud the government. People have to provide verification that they meet the programs qualifications when they apply which would require that they gin up false paperwork to submit to the government. It is more challenging then simply ticking a box on an application for a magnet high school. I expect that the government entities running social welfare programs, like FARMs, are doing their best to screen for fraudulent applications as families submit them.
In answer to your specific question then
1) There was no need to do a county wide check for fraud because the County provided free meals for all kids regardless
2) No because it is the Counties responsibility to check the submitted paperwork for fraud and not the School Districts
3) The only people whose status mattered where the kids who checked yes on the TJ application because it gave them bonus points for acceptance.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 08:55
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Why stop at trying to nab the TJ targeted group - why not expand the audit to all of FCPS? Oh, because we know which group is being targeted here. It's like more discrimination sprinkled on a discrimination sundae. Check this groups free lunch, but not the others. Sure hope that works out well in potential litigation.
They are trying to reduce bad behavior (cheating) and neutralize strategies (prepping) that will give affluent families a huge advantage. There is a whole industry dedicated to giving affluent families a leg up. There will never truly be a level playing field for all kids but by changing the admission process they are knocking down the inequities a bit.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 08:24
Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Recent comments seem to forget that TJ is a stem school not a normal high school
Another false choice. TJ is absolutely a normal full-service high school, complete with all of the opportunities that come at a normal high school. It has an arts program, an athletic program, and an extracurricular program that frankly puts all other high schools in the area to shame because of the flexibility that 8th period provides.
It is special and unique amongst all of the other STEM schools that are out there precisely because the remarkable opportunities within its building exist within the context of an otherwise normal high school.
Yeah that's not what the purpose of the school is sorry
If it were only a STEM school, it would be no better than AOS or AET or any of the hundreds of STEM charter schools out there. Sometimes I actually think that a few of the folks on this board who favor converting it to an academy are seeking to reduce its standing to elevate the schools in Loudoun that their kids could get into.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 07:40
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Why stop at trying to nab the TJ targeted group - why not expand the audit to all of FCPS? Oh, because we know which group is being targeted here. It's like more discrimination sprinkled on a discrimination sundae. Check this groups free lunch, but not the others. Sure hope that works out well in potential litigation.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 07:37
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?
They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.
Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.
What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.
In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).
Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.
Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.
Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.
I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.
Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.
What prevents them from sharing qs for this essay type questions? Or send people to home to answer the unmonitored tests? Do you have the number of students who got through for 2025 and 2026?
Cheaters gonna cheat. Make it a lottery.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 07:36
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?
They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.
Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.
What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.
In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).
Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.
Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.
Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.
Nope. The MAGAs are behind the C4TJ lies.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 07:36
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?
They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.
Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.
What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.
In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).
Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.
Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.
Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.
I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.
Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.
What prevents them from sharing qs for this essay type questions? Or send people to home to answer the unmonitored tests? Do you have the number of students who got through for 2025 and 2026?
Students and parents sign a pledge that they will not share or discuss the questions. (Yeah, that is really the plan of the TJ Admissions office. sigh.)
For 2025, I read on this board that 90 kids were admitted. No clue yet on 2026.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 07:33
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Curie results for 2026?
They got 133 in 2024 and 93 in 2025.
Curie's having 93 out of 550 seats, suggests either Fairfax didn't eliminate the preppability of admissions, or that Curie was getting a lot of students who were going to get in anyways.
What it actually means is that Curie is relatively ubiquitous among the South Asian community in Western Fairfax and Loudoun counties. If a South Asian student gets into TJ from that part of the county, there's a pretty strong chance (although it isn't 100%) that that student is a Curie product.
In each case, either the student would have gotten in anyway (which means the parents wasted their money) or the student nudged out someone else (which is why people use the "pay-to-play" term that everyone seems to hate so much).
Real pay to play is the "Varsity Blues" cases not prepping.
Remember that Varsity Blues wasn't just fake sports. It was also kids being provided with test answers, in the case of the fraudulent SAT testing protocols. That's actually a one-to-one comparison with the recent TJ scandal of kids at prep centers getting the answers ahead of time.
Such absolute lies, It is very much people like you who also attacked the capitol and killed people saying the elections were fake.
I read postings where multiple current TJ students discussed seeing the Quant Q questions ahead of time. One that comes to mind is TJ Vents on Facebook during the summer of 2020.
Were all those kids lying? I’m inclined to believe the children when they said they saw those questions ahead of time. Curie got 50 kids in the class of 2022, 80 in the class of 2023 and 120 on the Class of 2024.
What prevents them from sharing qs for this essay type questions? Or send people to home to answer the unmonitored tests? Do you have the number of students who got through for 2025 and 2026?