Anonymous
Post 03/17/2013 15:29     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals
Anonymous wrote:So when they talk about "multiple criteria"


http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/faqs/idfaqs.shtml

How important are the test scores in determining eligibility for full-time AAP (level IV) center placement?
Test scores are just one piece of data considered when a file is reviewed for full-time AAP (level IV) center placement. The Level IV Center Central Selection Committee, made up of FCPS teachers, specialists, and administrators, considers multiple criteria, including: the Gifted Behaviors Rating Scale (GBRS), ability and achievement test scores, work samples, student progress reports, and other optional information such as the Parent/Guardian Questionnaire (available at http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/forms.shtml).
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2013 15:28     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals
With a 144 NNAT and great GBRS (14) do you think the committee would rule out the candidate - because of an 82 % Cogat? Also candidate has a September birthday.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2013 11:22     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals
So when they talk about "multiple criteria", do you need to hit 3 high indicators (high NNAT, 95%+cogat, high gbrs and/or work samples) or just two (high NNAT and High Cogat or High NNat or High Cogat and/or GBRS)?
Just wondering
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2013 11:06     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals
Anonymous wrote:If u have high CogAT and NNAT and low GbRS, WISC may not help. The committee will want to see a reason for low GBRS, not another high test score. Examples for a low GBRS would be a LD, a vision issue, a hearing issue, a social issue, etc. You get the idea, there us a reason for such. This is what I have heard through the grape vine, anyway. I have no experience with appeals, personally. Good luck!


Not true. A high WISC overrides low GBRS. Happens all the time. Just read threads from past years.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2013 09:38     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals
Anonymous wrote:oh, you're going to stop after 2nd grade? Or will you be there pushing the system to let them into TJ? Then doing their college applications and arguing with the admissions board? When does it stop?


Yes, I will fight for my kids always and forever. That is what a parent, a good parent, does!
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2013 09:36     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals
If u have high CogAT and NNAT and low GbRS, WISC may not help. The committee will want to see a reason for low GBRS, not another high test score. Examples for a low GBRS would be a LD, a vision issue, a hearing issue, a social issue, etc. You get the idea, there us a reason for such. This is what I have heard through the grape vine, anyway. I have no experience with appeals, personally. Good luck!
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2013 08:23     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals
Anonymous wrote:Similar situation here: September birthday, 99% NNAT, 84% FxAT, GBRS unknown... What are our chances?


Find out GBRS. Without knowing GBRS it's hard to say.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2013 08:03     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals
Anonymous wrote:Similar situation here: September birthday, 99% NNAT, 84% FxAT, GBRS unknown... What are our chances?


About 35%
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2013 23:23     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals
Similar situation here: September birthday, 99% NNAT, 84% FxAT, GBRS unknown... What are our chances?
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2013 22:34     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals
My DD - who is a late Augaust bday- received a 14 GBRS, 99% NNAT but an 81% FxAT. Any insight into how her application may be received?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2012 16:24     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals
oh, you're going to stop after 2nd grade? Or will you be there pushing the system to let them into TJ? Then doing their college applications and arguing with the admissions board? When does it stop?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2012 16:22     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else - trolls excluded - start to worry that we're not teaching our DCs to be responsible for their own future if we keep fighting the system for them?


2nd graders are supposed to "fight the system"?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2012 15:57     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals
Does anyone else - trolls excluded - start to worry that we're not teaching our DCs to be responsible for their own future if we keep fighting the system for them?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2012 14:53     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals
Yay my kid is advanced just like every other kid in FCPS
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2012 14:51     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals
Anonymous wrote:Wow! It just seems so subjective. Look at the other thread. There are kids with scores WAY below 139 that got in on the first round on a parent referral because the teacher and AART wrote a good GBRS. So a kid with a perfect score on one of the tests and a 132 on the WISC wouldn't make it? Bizarre to me. That kid is objectively in the top 2% where as the referral kid is in the top because of the "subjective" opinion of the teacher and the AART. It seems like a process in which the schools can really play favorites.


Original poster, do get letters of recommendation from your child's teachers. Subjective? Sure. But test scores alone do not indicate how well a child really will do with the GT curriculum. In Fairfax parents are obsessed with test scores to the point of insanity. And good recommendations won't help if the child's scores clearly are far outside the required minimum. But thank goodness we have "subjective" teachers there to give a human perspective on kids' abilities to do GT work and thrive (or not) in centers.