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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing that politicians are defending him. Would they also have defended him if he had raped them?

Raped? You need to stop being outrageous. Not a word to make light of.

I don't think this person is "making light of" rape. In addition, Josh was 4 years old, what he did would be considered rape.

By who?

Sorry, hit send without reading.... Should have said "In addition, if Josh was 18 years old, what he did could be considered rape."

Whether or not something is rape is not decided by the perpetrator's age.

The Duggars are not child molesters. They do not promote child molestation. Their minor son touched their minor daughters. They were horrified and upset and handled the terrible situation in an appropriate manner.

If they had handled it in an appropriate manner, it would not have happened again. The police report, which I'm sure you haven't read, details multiple incidents of molestation.

Not handling it in an appropriate manner ---> having it happen again = promoting

I always thought they must have been sexually abused to behave the way they do.

I wonder if they considered doing tv show as a way to actually protect the children. Knowing they would have extra eyes and cameras around the house.

Also Honey Boo Boo was canceled immediately on a lot of speculation. Yes there were photos so she obviously had contact with him, but a great deal of the scandal was proved to be rumor after. The facts were he sexually assaulted her daughter, June didn't handle it well, he served a long prison sentence and June had contact with him when he was released.

It is telling that TLC is dragging their feet over canceling 19 kids and counting. HBB showed a family that were kind of backward and didn't make good choices but they loved and accepted each other and all types of people. They supported, embraced and normalized the children having an uncle who is a homosexual.

The Duggars, for all their purity talk sexualize everything. Even so far as the father needing to side hug his own daughters. They talk a good christian game but they have hate in their hearts for their fellow man, which is not at all christian. This is a family who imprisons their children within their own lifestyle choice and would shun them completely if they made choices on their own. They made their fortune on the back of wholesome, when in reality they had skeletons biting at their heels.

TLC should have canceled 19 kids and counting withing a day like they did HBB. What the Duggars did is far worse then June Shannon and then add in the hypocrisy and I'm not sure what TLC is thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people posting Quiverful documents:

There is no evidence that the Duggars handled this issue per those documents.

You have no idea what happened in their household and/or exactly how they handled the situation.

So, yes, this is a smear campaign.

The Duggars are part of ATI/Gothard. That is the ONLY curriculum that is allowed. Also the Duggars have stated exactly how they handled this situation. Try to keep up.

This. And that they are WILLINGLY showcasing their lives on TV. For money. You know, the evil liberal media? Seems to me as though they did pretty well for themselves using the media, until Josh done messed it all up.

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Anonymous wrote:Welcome to America, where the kardashians and their sex tapes are revered and the Duggar family is ripped to shreds.

1) Not everyone in "America" enjoys the Kardashian Self Promotion Project.
2) There is a difference between making a sex tape and sexually abusing multiple younger family members.
3) There is also a difference between promoting a lifestyle that glorifies hedonistic materialism while also being a materialistic hedonist and glorifying a lifestyle that promotes conservative morality while also being a child molester.

I bet the girls were abused.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you again Madame Chairperson.

Like talking to a brick wall. You are now at troll status for me, time to ignore you.

Yes, Ma'am. Sorry Ma'am. Whatever you say, Ma'am. Or should I call you the "thought control police." Keep up the good work on your smear campaign.

Hey guys, I feel sorry for this person. They are obviously projecting their own issues all over this situation and its pretty clear it has set them off balance.

They continually think they are speaking to the same person. They are ignoring facts. They are dismissing questions being asked of them. I think this might be a painful subject for them.

Did you molest someone when you were 14? Did your child? Were you molested? I think you might want to self reflect and see why you would be so eager to vehemently defend a family that belongs to a cult that is not only a hate group but victim shames and treats women as second class citizens who are only good as baby factories.

Again, I feel bad for you. Sorry you are taking this so personally. I doubt the Duggars would care one bit about you unless you too were a member of their cult.

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Anonymous wrote:From the curriculum used by the Duggars, which has been posted several times:

4. Why did God let this happen?
Results of defrauding by:
Immodest dress
Indecent exposure
Being out from protection of our parents
Being with evil friends

aka, she was wearing a short skirt, she asked for it.

She was sleeping unattended on a couch. She was asking for for it.

She was in possession of a vagina. She totally asked for it.

Her cartoon panties were showing while she slept. She asked for it.

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Anonymous wrote:From the curriculum used by the Duggars, which has been posted several times:

4. Why did God let this happen?
Results of defrauding by:
Immodest dress
Indecent exposure
Being out from protection of our parents
Being with evil friends

aka, she was wearing a short skirt, she asked for it.

She was sleeping unattended on a couch. She was asking for for it.

Her peter pan collar didn't hide enough neck. She was asking for it.

Anonymous wrote:JFC people posting Quiverful documents:

There is no evidence that the Duggars handled this issue per those documents.

You have no idea what happened in their household and/or exactly how they handled the situation.

So, yes, this is a smear campaign.

The Duggars are part of ATI/Gothard. That is the ONLY curriculum that is allowed. Also the Duggars have stated exactly how they handled this situation. Try to keep up.

Anonymous wrote:JFC people posting Quiverful documents:

There is no evidence that the Duggars handled this issue per those documents.

You have no idea what happened in their household and/or exactly how they handled the situation.

So, yes, this is a smear campaign.

Let me turn this back around on you. Would YOUR answers be the same if this was, for example, a fundamentalist Muslim family, and it was discovered that a male member of that family had sexually abused multiple, younger female family members, that the family's response was to send him to a mullah, who advised that he pray for forgiveness, that the family then did not report the abuse (which is a crime) to any governmental officials, because they were concerned that their male family member would be exposed to ideas that were antithetical to Sharia law (particularly related to sex abuse and gender relations)?

Because I think in both cases, the fundamentalist beliefs related to the issue at hand (who holds the sexual power, who is not permitted to exercise any power, and where the "fault" is determined to lie) are well documented enough that statements like "you have no idea what happened in their household" are naive. Are you trying to excuse what is CLEARLY an abdication of parental responsibility to protect minor children from sexual predators?

Anonymous wrote:JFC people posting Quiverful documents:

There is no evidence that the Duggars handled this issue per those documents.

You have no idea what happened in their household and/or exactly how they handled the situation.

So, yes, this is a smear campaign.

Well, we know that the abuse happened, because Josh admitted it. We know that he received no outside counseling, because Michelle corrected herself and said that Josh had gone on a work program, not a treatment program. We know that the clergy member and the police officer that Josh spoke to did not report the abuse as they were required by mandated reporter laws. We know that the children were all required to seek forgiveness from their church.

And of course, we know that the family went on to make money off of their reality show, that they are involved in local and national politics as family values superstars, that they are stridently anti-LBTQ, and that Josh parleyed his role on the TV show into a high-profile lobbying job for a family-values organization that portrays homosexuals as dangerous deviants.

So, any discussion of these facts is not "smearing," it's just discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:From the curriculum used by the Duggars, which has been posted several times:

4. Why did God let this happen?
Results of defrauding by:
Immodest dress
Indecent exposure
Being out from protection of our parents
Being with evil friends

aka, she was wearing a short skirt, she asked for it.

She was sleeping unattended on a couch. She was asking for for it.

Duggars wear short skirts? Since when?

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Anonymous wrote:PP -- the Duggars are heartbroken this happened and they dealt with it in a dignified and responsible manner. the way they handled it allowed their family to survive. Josh has not re-offended. The sisters seem okay. Josh also survived and has a family of his own. What -- he should be thrown in jail for life? Killed? What?


What the heck is it that you all want from this family?

It is as if you are all saying - ha ha ha they are a bunch of idiots and deserve all this.

Bad stuff happens in the best of families.

This family handled it well.


Leave them alone.

They handled it well, huh? Seriously, all the discussion about religion and political involvement avoids the central question. If someone molested your daughter would you think it sufficient for that person to go work construction for a few months and get a stern talking to? If you separate out everything else and answer that question honestly I think you will see beyond the noise and understand what the furor is all about.

I would like to hear one supporter answer that question honestly.

Has any of the supporters answered this question yet?

I feel like people who try to say anything other than hateful things is called a "supporter." The rational conversation has been abandoned. The issue hasn't been discussed without name-calling or freaking out about their politics or religion. I say this as someone who is exactly the type of person a Duggar would rally against: independent, godless, liberal lesbian.

Thank you, I totally agree. This is no longer a debate. There are a few people that angrily attack anyone who disagrees with them and call names. It's not worth trying to have a discussion when it's like this. Eventually the only ones posting will be the angry irrational attack dogs, and the thread will no longer be any fun for them with no one left to attack.