I agree about Travis; he’s always been pretty open and public in his relationships. But it sounds like you’re suggesting that being private means someone’s insecure, and I don’t think that’s fair. A lot of celebrities choose to keep things low-key simply because they value privacy, not because they’re insecure.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fair, the media was different back then. But it’s not like paparazzi disappeared. The difference is how much people feed into it. Some celebs play the game, some don’t. Taylor and Travis clearly don’t mind being seen.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jay Z and Beyonce dated for 3 years before making a public appearance as a couple. Fans found out they were married months after the tiny ceremony (about 30 people in attendance). The press discovered their marriage license, which is how it leaked to fans. Three years after the marriage she showed pics of her wedding dress during her tour and then six years later she released some video footage of the wedding during another tour. It can be done.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.
Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?
To be fair, Beyoncé‘s wedding was early 2008. Which means they started dating in 2005. The media landscape was totally different. It was easier to hide things. I had a blackberry in 2008 to put it in context.
Taylor’s previous boyfriends hated the attention. They felt emasculated by being “Taylor’s boyfriend” and not their own person. Travis is proud to be her boyfriend. That’s a big part of why this one finally works. Travis isn’t insecure.
Anonymous wrote:Fair, the media was different back then. But it’s not like paparazzi disappeared. The difference is how much people feed into it. Some celebs play the game, some don’t. Taylor and Travis clearly don’t mind being seen.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jay Z and Beyonce dated for 3 years before making a public appearance as a couple. Fans found out they were married months after the tiny ceremony (about 30 people in attendance). The press discovered their marriage license, which is how it leaked to fans. Three years after the marriage she showed pics of her wedding dress during her tour and then six years later she released some video footage of the wedding during another tour. It can be done.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.
Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?
To be fair, Beyoncé‘s wedding was early 2008. Which means they started dating in 2005. The media landscape was totally different. It was easier to hide things. I had a blackberry in 2008 to put it in context.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am pretty, uh, into and around the Swiftie online universe. Nobody cares about Kayla. If anyone is harassing her it is a very minor subset and probably not actual Swifties.
Did Taylor include a “diss” of Travis’ ex in her song? (Genuinely asking, I like Taylor’s music but am not familiar enough with her / her history / her lyrics to know the answer to this)
Asked Google your question. Here is the AI response.
"Yes, fans and media outlets speculate that Taylor Swift included a "diss" to Travis Kelce's ex, Kayla Nicole, in her song "Opalite". The lyrics "You couldn't understand it / Why you felt alone / You were in it for real, she was in her phone / And you were just a pose" are believed to be a reference to a viral video of Kelce telling Nicole to "get off your phone" during a past video call, and also hint at rumors that she was using him for social media popularity. Swift has not officially confirmed the subject of the song, but described it as being about "realizing that someone else has kind of had a one-sided, adversarial relationship with you that you didn't know about".
Why did you need AI to tell you this? I just posted the lyrics and bolded the ones that referred to Kayla.
Wouldn't AI just be regurgitating some reddit posts? It's not exactly based on facts.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am pretty, uh, into and around the Swiftie online universe. Nobody cares about Kayla. If anyone is harassing her it is a very minor subset and probably not actual Swifties.
Did Taylor include a “diss” of Travis’ ex in her song? (Genuinely asking, I like Taylor’s music but am not familiar enough with her / her history / her lyrics to know the answer to this)
Asked Google your question. Here is the AI response.
"Yes, fans and media outlets speculate that Taylor Swift included a "diss" to Travis Kelce's ex, Kayla Nicole, in her song "Opalite". The lyrics "You couldn't understand it / Why you felt alone / You were in it for real, she was in her phone / And you were just a pose" are believed to be a reference to a viral video of Kelce telling Nicole to "get off your phone" during a past video call, and also hint at rumors that she was using him for social media popularity. Swift has not officially confirmed the subject of the song, but described it as being about "realizing that someone else has kind of had a one-sided, adversarial relationship with you that you didn't know about".
Why did you need AI to tell you this? I just posted the lyrics and bolded the ones that referred to Kayla.
Fair, the media was different back then. But it’s not like paparazzi disappeared. The difference is how much people feed into it. Some celebs play the game, some don’t. Taylor and Travis clearly don’t mind being seen.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jay Z and Beyonce dated for 3 years before making a public appearance as a couple. Fans found out they were married months after the tiny ceremony (about 30 people in attendance). The press discovered their marriage license, which is how it leaked to fans. Three years after the marriage she showed pics of her wedding dress during her tour and then six years later she released some video footage of the wedding during another tour. It can be done.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.
Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?
To be fair, Beyoncé‘s wedding was early 2008. Which means they started dating in 2005. The media landscape was totally different. It was easier to hide things. I had a blackberry in 2008 to put it in context.
Anonymous wrote:Jay Z and Beyonce dated for 3 years before making a public appearance as a couple. Fans found out they were married months after the tiny ceremony (about 30 people in attendance). The press discovered their marriage license, which is how it leaked to fans. Three years after the marriage she showed pics of her wedding dress during her tour and then six years later she released some video footage of the wedding during another tour. It can be done.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.
Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am pretty, uh, into and around the Swiftie online universe. Nobody cares about Kayla. If anyone is harassing her it is a very minor subset and probably not actual Swifties.
Did Taylor include a “diss” of Travis’ ex in her song? (Genuinely asking, I like Taylor’s music but am not familiar enough with her / her history / her lyrics to know the answer to this)
Asked Google your question. Here is the AI response.
"Yes, fans and media outlets speculate that Taylor Swift included a "diss" to Travis Kelce's ex, Kayla Nicole, in her song "Opalite". The lyrics "You couldn't understand it / Why you felt alone / You were in it for real, she was in her phone / And you were just a pose" are believed to be a reference to a viral video of Kelce telling Nicole to "get off your phone" during a past video call, and also hint at rumors that she was using him for social media popularity. Swift has not officially confirmed the subject of the song, but described it as being about "realizing that someone else has kind of had a one-sided, adversarial relationship with you that you didn't know about".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am pretty, uh, into and around the Swiftie online universe. Nobody cares about Kayla. If anyone is harassing her it is a very minor subset and probably not actual Swifties.
Did Taylor include a “diss” of Travis’ ex in her song? (Genuinely asking, I like Taylor’s music but am not familiar enough with her / her history / her lyrics to know the answer to this)
Asked Google your question. Here is the AI response.
"Yes, fans and media outlets speculate that Taylor Swift included a "diss" to Travis Kelce's ex, Kayla Nicole, in her song "Opalite". The lyrics "You couldn't understand it / Why you felt alone / You were in it for real, she was in her phone / And you were just a pose" are believed to be a reference to a viral video of Kelce telling Nicole to "get off your phone" during a past video call, and also hint at rumors that she was using him for social media popularity. Swift has not officially confirmed the subject of the song, but described it as being about "realizing that someone else has kind of had a one-sided, adversarial relationship with you that you didn't know about".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.
Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?
Also, isn't this always the concern in a lopsided relationship where the famous one worries that the less famous one is using them or taking advantage? Or complaining that one person was always in their phone? That seems to be pretty common and relatable even for non famous couples.
And the point of the line was that she wasn’t as into him as he wanted. He felt like depth and real love was missing. Since she broke up with him, this seems like a fair take.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am pretty, uh, into and around the Swiftie online universe. Nobody cares about Kayla. If anyone is harassing her it is a very minor subset and probably not actual Swifties.
Did Taylor include a “diss” of Travis’ ex in her song? (Genuinely asking, I like Taylor’s music but am not familiar enough with her / her history / her lyrics to know the answer to this)
I think Travis also is into his public image and cares about publicity as well. I don’t think it was just her.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I disagree. If I were his ex that would definitely feel like a diss.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am pretty, uh, into and around the Swiftie online universe. Nobody cares about Kayla. If anyone is harassing her it is a very minor subset and probably not actual Swifties.
Did Taylor include a “diss” of Travis’ ex in her song? (Genuinely asking, I like Taylor’s music but am not familiar enough with her / her history / her lyrics to know the answer to this)
No. In a song about finding each other and the path to get to the happy place they are right now, she had one line about that relationship. It’s wasn’t a “diss” at all.
I’m going to out on a limb and bet that Kayla owns and is fully aware that her priorities lie with social media, publicity, and attention and perhaps she wasn’t as into him as a person as he wished.
Sure, she broke up with him the last time, but they were on and off a lot during their 5 year relationship. And neither of them have said the reason they broke up, though they have both denied the numerous rumors about why they broke up.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.
Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?
Also, isn't this always the concern in a lopsided relationship where the famous one worries that the less famous one is using them or taking advantage? Or complaining that one person was always in their phone? That seems to be pretty common and relatable even for non famous couples.
And the point of the line was that she wasn’t as into him as he wanted. He felt like depth and real love was missing. Since she broke up with him, this seems like a fair take.
Jay Z and Beyonce dated for 3 years before making a public appearance as a couple. Fans found out they were married months after the tiny ceremony (about 30 people in attendance). The press discovered their marriage license, which is how it leaked to fans. Three years after the marriage she showed pics of her wedding dress during her tour and then six years later she released some video footage of the wedding during another tour. It can be done.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.
Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.
Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?
Also, isn't this always the concern in a lopsided relationship where the famous one worries that the less famous one is using them or taking advantage? Or complaining that one person was always in their phone? That seems to be pretty common and relatable even for non famous couples.