Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:57
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Every D and R politician from blue states has been complaining about reduced SALT for years. I have seen them on CNBC multiple times. So what you saying is completely false.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They also won’t be complaining about the increased SALT deduction either. Massive benefit for Blue states.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Quit both-sidesing everything. Not one democrat voted for this crap bill.
And what's more, Democrats won't go back to their constituents and brag about the new law despite having voted against it the way Republicans did during the Obama and Biden administration's. Meanwhile, Republicans are afraid of their constituents and won't be holding any town halls. Sad!
The SALT relief is temporary and lipstick on a pig, dwarfed by the permanent tax giveaway to billionaires. Dems and blue states did not ask for this. We asked for healthcare, we asked for humanity and decent treatment of the elderly, the disabled, the sick, the poor, the hungry, they all get screwed. We asked for clean and sustainable energy supply but instead we get filthy, expensive polluting coal and oil. We asked for education, access to college for those who need it, good, strong public k12, for educational programming on PBS and supporting arts and humanities along with strong STEM education. We asked for infrastructure, instead we get crumbling roads, bridges sewer and water treatment plants and cuts to mass transit. We asked for good stewardship of the land and instead we get pollution and a sell off of our national parks and scenic wonders to billionaires. We asked for the working class to be protected, for consumers and investors to be protected, but instead we get worker safety and unions being gutted, we get regulatory rollbacks that will flood the markets with scammy and unsafe products, dangerous chemicals, risky investments and everything else. Do not DARE to suggest any bothsides on this, or “Dem hypocrisy” or that we owe Republicans a damn thin.
The rest of your post is vague hyperbole that should have been addressed by Joe Biden with his Democrat Congress if really a problem.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:54
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Social security is funded separately, BBB has no effect on SSI taxes that fund SSI. Stop trying to scare people, no one buys it.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please explain the changes to Social Security. I am not aware of any.Anonymous wrote:For people in their 40s/50s who think BBB is great... do you all not realize that we have paid a sh*^ ton into social security but we won't be getting our due now because of this bill?
The BBB doesn't really save that much in taxes for most of us; it does for the rich. But, what it does do is balloon the deficit and make social security insolvent even faster.
The Tax Policy Center, which provides nonpartisan analysis of tax and budget policy, projected the bill would result next year in a $150 tax break for the lowest quintile of Americans, a $1,750 tax cut for the middle quintile and a $10,950 tax cut for the top quintile. That's compared with what they would face if the 2017 tax cuts expired.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-clears-key-hurdle-075405529.html
It this really worth ballooning our deficit and gutting social security for the future?
- signed a former R now Independent
The tax cuts of the rich mean that our government will go bankrupt much sooner than expected. So don't count on your Medicare or Social Security.
Yes it does. The trust fund will now run out a year earlier because of the new deduction for wealthy seniors.
That deduction is means tested. Wealthy seniors will not benefit from it.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:53
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They also won’t be complaining about the increased SALT deduction either. Massive benefit for Blue states.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Quit both-sidesing everything. Not one democrat voted for this crap bill.
And what's more, Democrats won't go back to their constituents and brag about the new law despite having voted against it the way Republicans did during the Obama and Biden administration's. Meanwhile, Republicans are afraid of their constituents and won't be holding any town halls. Sad!
The SALT relief is temporary and lipstick on a pig, dwarfed by the permanent tax giveaway to billionaires. Dems and blue states did not ask for this. We asked for healthcare, we asked for humanity and decent treatment of the elderly, the disabled, the sick, the poor, the hungry, they all get screwed. We asked for clean and sustainable energy supply but instead we get filthy, expensive polluting coal and oil. We asked for education, access to college for those who need it, good, strong public k12, for educational programming on PBS and supporting arts and humanities along with strong STEM education. We asked for infrastructure, instead we get crumbling roads, bridges sewer and water treatment plants and cuts to mass transit. We asked for good stewardship of the land and instead we get pollution and a sell off of our national parks and scenic wonders to billionaires. We asked for the working class to be protected, for consumers and investors to be protected, but instead we get worker safety and unions being gutted, we get regulatory rollbacks that will flood the markets with scammy and unsafe products, dangerous chemicals, risky investments and everything else. Do not DARE to suggest any bothsides on this, or “Dem hypocrisy” or that we owe Republicans a damn thin.
Do you understand that the term tax giveaways is complete nonsense?
It can't be a giveaway because a person EARNS it and then the government confiscates it, so it wasn't the government's money to begin with.
Don't tell me how "sustainable" your energy supply games are. They are dirty and the real objective is simply to take money from one group of people and give it to another.
The rest of your diatribe is nonsense. You seem to want to live in a Sovietized economy. Go overseas and freely live in it. You aren't even hiding it anymore.
"From those according to their abilities, to those according to their needs." - Karl Marx
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:51
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Stupid take. Democrats fought this POS bill. Even if it benefits them individually, it’s horrible for our county.
I don’t know any rich dems, including myself, who are celebrating this bill. Not one. We are all sad. I didn’t need another tax cut.
And I didn't need millions of people being entitled to health care without footing the bill. Your agenda of giveaways based on class warfare has become pure frigging nonsense.
Sad that you don’t realize how much your bill is footed, you ghoul.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:48
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Stupid take. Democrats fought this POS bill. Even if it benefits them individually, it’s horrible for our county.
I don’t know any rich dems, including myself, who are celebrating this bill. Not one. We are all sad. I didn’t need another tax cut.
And I didn't need millions of people being entitled to health care without footing the bill. Your agenda of giveaways based on class warfare has become pure frigging nonsense.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:37
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They also won’t be complaining about the increased SALT deduction either. Massive benefit for Blue states.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Quit both-sidesing everything. Not one democrat voted for this crap bill.
And what's more, Democrats won't go back to their constituents and brag about the new law despite having voted against it the way Republicans did during the Obama and Biden administration's. Meanwhile, Republicans are afraid of their constituents and won't be holding any town halls. Sad!
The SALT relief is temporary and lipstick on a pig, dwarfed by the permanent tax giveaway to billionaires. Dems and blue states did not ask for this. We asked for healthcare, we asked for humanity and decent treatment of the elderly, the disabled, the sick, the poor, the hungry, they all get screwed. We asked for clean and sustainable energy supply but instead we get filthy, expensive polluting coal and oil. We asked for education, access to college for those who need it, good, strong public k12, for educational programming on PBS and supporting arts and humanities along with strong STEM education. We asked for infrastructure, instead we get crumbling roads, bridges sewer and water treatment plants and cuts to mass transit. We asked for good stewardship of the land and instead we get pollution and a sell off of our national parks and scenic wonders to billionaires. We asked for the working class to be protected, for consumers and investors to be protected, but instead we get worker safety and unions being gutted, we get regulatory rollbacks that will flood the markets with scammy and unsafe products, dangerous chemicals, risky investments and everything else. Do not DARE to suggest any bothsides on this, or “Dem hypocrisy” or that we owe Republicans a damn thin.
+100000000000000000
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:36
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:They also won’t be complaining about the increased SALT deduction either. Massive benefit for Blue states.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Quit both-sidesing everything. Not one democrat voted for this crap bill.
And what's more, Democrats won't go back to their constituents and brag about the new law despite having voted against it the way Republicans did during the Obama and Biden administration's. Meanwhile, Republicans are afraid of their constituents and won't be holding any town halls. Sad!
The SALT relief is temporary and lipstick on a pig, dwarfed by the permanent tax giveaway to billionaires. Dems and blue states did not ask for this. We asked for healthcare, we asked for humanity and decent treatment of the elderly, the disabled, the sick, the poor, the hungry, they all get screwed. We asked for clean and sustainable energy supply but instead we get filthy, expensive polluting coal and oil. We asked for education, access to college for those who need it, good, strong public k12, for educational programming on PBS and supporting arts and humanities along with strong STEM education. We asked for infrastructure, instead we get crumbling roads, bridges sewer and water treatment plants and cuts to mass transit. We asked for good stewardship of the land and instead we get pollution and a sell off of our national parks and scenic wonders to billionaires. We asked for the working class to be protected, for consumers and investors to be protected, but instead we get worker safety and unions being gutted, we get regulatory rollbacks that will flood the markets with scammy and unsafe products, dangerous chemicals, risky investments and everything else. Do not DARE to suggest any bothsides on this, or “Dem hypocrisy” or that we owe Republicans a damn thin.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:23
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Stupid take. Democrats fought this POS bill. Even if it benefits them individually, it’s horrible for our county.
No the Dems did not fight this bill. They were too busy attacking Zohran Mamdani and trying to link him to antisemitism. Shows where their priorities are.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:22
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Stupid take. Democrats fought this POS bill. Even if it benefits them individually, it’s horrible for our county.
I don’t know any rich dems, including myself, who are celebrating this bill. Not one. We are all sad. I didn’t need another tax cut.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:20
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They also won’t be complaining about the increased SALT deduction either. Massive benefit for Blue states.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Quit both-sidesing everything. Not one democrat voted for this crap bill.
And what's more, Democrats won't go back to their constituents and brag about the new law despite having voted against it the way Republicans did during the Obama and Biden administration's. Meanwhile, Republicans are afraid of their constituents and won't be holding any town halls. Sad!
They won’t brag about it because it wasn’t worth the pain many people will feel. It also doesn’t effect that many blue states.
Affect
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:20
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:They also won’t be complaining about the increased SALT deduction either. Massive benefit for Blue states.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Quit both-sidesing everything. Not one democrat voted for this crap bill.
And what's more, Democrats won't go back to their constituents and brag about the new law despite having voted against it the way Republicans did during the Obama and Biden administration's. Meanwhile, Republicans are afraid of their constituents and won't be holding any town halls. Sad!
They won’t brag about it because it wasn’t worth the pain many people will feel. It also doesn’t effect that many blue states.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:18
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:They also won’t be complaining about the increased SALT deduction either. Massive benefit for Blue states.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Quit both-sidesing everything. Not one democrat voted for this crap bill.
And what's more, Democrats won't go back to their constituents and brag about the new law despite having voted against it the way Republicans did during the Obama and Biden administration's. Meanwhile, Republicans are afraid of their constituents and won't be holding any town halls. Sad!
So they voted against their own interests because they care about all of their constituents, all Americans, unlike the unpatriotic, fearful of their own shadow, MAGA.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:14
Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
We are rich and benefit from this horrible bill. We are crying for our country today, hanging the flag upside down.
We are all fcked thanks to the POS Republicans.
We are all fcked thanks to the POS Republicans.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:11
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
Stupid take. Democrats fought this POS bill. Even if it benefits them individually, it’s horrible for our county.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 12:05
Subject: Re:Big Beautiful Bill
They also won’t be complaining about the increased SALT deduction either. Massive benefit for Blue states.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Quit both-sidesing everything. Not one democrat voted for this crap bill.
And what's more, Democrats won't go back to their constituents and brag about the new law despite having voted against it the way Republicans did during the Obama and Biden administration's. Meanwhile, Republicans are afraid of their constituents and won't be holding any town halls. Sad!