Anonymous
01/06/2023 21:48
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Gaetz has a right to be ticked off at that weasel. He was charged with nothing. It was an obvious orchestrated smear.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 21:47
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anybody want to process this for us? Rules package:
https://rules.house.gov/sites/republicans.rules118.house.gov/files/BILLS-118hresPIH-118th-rules-of-the-house-of-reps-V3.pdf
https://rules.house.gov/sites/republicans.rules118.house.gov/files/BILLS-118hresPIH-118th-rules-of-the-house-of-reps-V3.pdf
Anonymous
01/06/2023 21:40
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Why Gaetz hates McCarthy so much even though McCarthy let him continue to oversee the FBI while he was under federal investigation.
“But Gaetz’s hatred curdled into something even more powerful after it was revealed in early 2021 that the MAGA congressman was the target of a federal investigation into the sex trafficking of a minor. (No charges were filed against Gaetz, but his “wingman” Joel Greenberg was sentenced to 11 years in prison.) McCarthy, in Gaetz’s opinion, failed to mount a forceful enough defense on his behalf. According to two sources familiar with the matter, Gaetz has been furious at McCarthy for the perceived lack of support ever since — despite the fact that McCarthy did not strip him of any committee assignments during the probe.”
“But Gaetz’s hatred curdled into something even more powerful after it was revealed in early 2021 that the MAGA congressman was the target of a federal investigation into the sex trafficking of a minor. (No charges were filed against Gaetz, but his “wingman” Joel Greenberg was sentenced to 11 years in prison.) McCarthy, in Gaetz’s opinion, failed to mount a forceful enough defense on his behalf. According to two sources familiar with the matter, Gaetz has been furious at McCarthy for the perceived lack of support ever since — despite the fact that McCarthy did not strip him of any committee assignments during the probe.”
Anonymous
01/06/2023 21:20
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rumors that moderate GOP will NOT support the rules as will be proposed by McCarthy.
Interesting to see what happens if it comes to pass.
I’ll believe it when I see it. At least one of the non-chaos members has said that there is nothing McCarthy can concede, that would cause him to withdraw his support in any way.
It will only take 5 republicans to sink that package. And McCarthy would already have the gavel.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 21:17
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Tony Gonzales of TX is a “no” on the Rules package.
And supposed “moderate” Brian Fitzpatrick of PA is a “yes.” So much for the “moderates” taking a stand.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 21:14
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Tony Gonzales of TX is a “no” on the Rules package.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 21:11
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Rumors that moderate GOP will NOT support the rules as will be proposed by McCarthy.
Interesting to see what happens if it comes to pass.
The “moderates” sat on their hands while watching the party get hijacked. Nobody to blame but themselves.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 21:09
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Rumors that moderate GOP will NOT support the rules as will be proposed by McCarthy.
Interesting to see what happens if it comes to pass.
I’ll believe it when I see it. At least one of the non-chaos members has said that there is nothing McCarthy can concede, that would cause him to withdraw his support in any way.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 21:08
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is NO WAY I'm going to be here at 10pm
That might be the strategy to get him over the top — less people voting
The 2 missing McCarthy votes - Hunt & Buck are flying back.
Steve Kornacki has the breakdown of what McCarthy needs:
Once Hunt & Buck are back, and if all others stay and vote, McCarthy could also win without actually getting a vote from any of the 6 remaining holdouts. If he could get 3 to vote “present” then he could afford 3 others voting against him. Would be 216-212-3-3 w/ a magic # of 216
Also in this scenario (all 434 in attendance), McCarthy could win by getting one of the holdouts to vote for him + 1 other to vote “present” and the other 4 defecting. Would be 217-212-4-1 and the magic number would be 217.
https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki
So he's going to win because McEachin died?
No, because he's conceded so much, and has essentially emasculated himself and his position. The wingnuts are going to be in positions of power, and the whole country is going to be the worse for it.
If McCarthy has acceded to the HFC demand of 3 seats on the Rules Committee then he has effectively signed the death warrant for his nascent speakership. The HFC will control everything coming to the floor for a vote including, most importantly, appropriations and the debt ceiling. Everything can be ground to a halt. They can now burn it all down by a debt default. His transformation into a modern day political Reek is now fully realized. It’s the pound of flesh extracted from McCarthy’s backside for the final straw: passage of the $1.7T Omnibus, which defeated their goal of more tax cuts for the wealthy and gutting government entitlements and other spending. And if they get outmaneuvered in Cimmittee then they come headhunting with a motion to vacate.
McCarthy allowed himself to get pantsed by the jackals at the shadowy CNP/CPI who are pulling the strings. Gaetz and Bobo are playing their customary roles of useful idiots.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 20:57
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Rumors that moderate GOP will NOT support the rules as will be proposed by McCarthy.
Interesting to see what happens if it comes to pass.
They shouldn't. It would be disastrous.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 20:55
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Rumors that moderate GOP will NOT support the rules as will be proposed by McCarthy.
Interesting to see what happens if it comes to pass.
Interesting to see what happens if it comes to pass.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 20:52
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
It's amazing the kitty litter in schools / Jewish space laser / cocaine orgy party can't get it together, said no one ever.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 20:27
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is NO WAY I'm going to be here at 10pm
That might be the strategy to get him over the top — less people voting
The 2 missing McCarthy votes - Hunt & Buck are flying back.
Steve Kornacki has the breakdown of what McCarthy needs:
Once Hunt & Buck are back, and if all others stay and vote, McCarthy could also win without actually getting a vote from any of the 6 remaining holdouts. If he could get 3 to vote “present” then he could afford 3 others voting against him. Would be 216-212-3-3 w/ a magic # of 216
Also in this scenario (all 434 in attendance), McCarthy could win by getting one of the holdouts to vote for him + 1 other to vote “present” and the other 4 defecting. Would be 217-212-4-1 and the magic number would be 217.
https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki
So he's going to win because McEachin died?
No, because he's conceded so much, and has essentially emasculated himself and his position. The wingnuts are going to be in positions of power, and the whole country is going to be the worse for it.
If McCarthy has acceded to the HFC demand of 3 seats on the Rules Committee then he has effectively signed the death warrant for his nascent speakership. The HFC will control everything coming to the floor for a vote including, most importantly, appropriations and the debt ceiling. Everything can be ground to a halt. They can now burn it all down by a debt default. His transformation into a modern day political Reek is now fully realized. It’s the pound of flesh extracted from McCarthy’s backside for the final straw: passage of the $1.7T Omnibus, which defeated their goal of more tax cuts for the wealthy and gutting government entitlements and other spending. And if they get outmaneuvered in Cimmittee then they come headhunting with a motion to vacate.
Anonymous
01/06/2023 20:01
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:McCarthy is going to be very upset tonight once he learns George Santos can’t vote because he’s observing the Sabbath.
OMG. That Guy.
Sabbath -ish,
Anonymous
01/06/2023 19:46
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:McCarthy is going to be very upset tonight once he learns George Santos can’t vote because he’s observing the Sabbath.
OMG. That Guy.