School didn't raise him or buy that gun but I believe that the school should be held accountable for it as well. Children in better managed school districts have been sent home, arrested, and suspended, for much much less than what happened on the Monday and Tuesday before the shooting occurred.

Why are you “no nanny state!” People blaming the school??

Pick a lane.

I have a hard time going from “He told the counselors that he had been at a shooting range and shooting sports are a family hobby” to “The school had no way of knowing he may have access to a gun.”

The superintendent doesn't want the MI-AG sniffing around, he's instead going with a bogus "third party investigation".

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
SO OVER people trying to use "bullying" - when that is exactly, exactly what they are doing. There is no excuse for shooting or injuring other students. Period. Stop deflecting, it is obvious. Handle your issues. Handle your anger issues.

Just ignore the "bully" posts. Off topic.

Bullying is something that people should be allowed to talk about
To me it sounds like he had an unhappy home and school kids sensed that and he ended up as an easy victim. None of this excuses anything, but it should be something that people can talk about without being accused

Sure. Talk about it at home, talk about it with a counselor, be a parent and get your kid the help he is literally crying out for.

Don't go to the school at school up the school.

Your problems should not be our problems.

Where is the help? Seriously. Everyone keeps saying, get the kid help. The help is on a 6 month waiting list. The kid, most likely, did not show signs of needing to be admitted to a hospital for immediate treatment. Weekly therapy is $200 a week plus - for a middle class family, that is the difference between affording their mortgage or therapy. Therapy covered by insurance is near impossible to come by. The process is slow and finding a good therapist on the first go around, is also close to impossible.
I am not implying that we shouldn't try but if you have not been in the situation to try to get your child help in the last year, you should not be screaming that. There.is.not.help.

This is the absolute truth. It is a huge, huge problem.

There sure is. This is how we found it. See: "get help":

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
SO OVER people trying to use "bullying" - when that is exactly, exactly what they are doing. There is no excuse for shooting or injuring other students. Period. Stop deflecting, it is obvious. Handle your issues. Handle your anger issues.

Just ignore the "bully" posts. Off topic.

Bullying is something that people should be allowed to talk about
To me it sounds like he had an unhappy home and school kids sensed that and he ended up as an easy victim. None of this excuses anything, but it should be something that people can talk about without being accused

Sure. Talk about it at home, talk about it with a counselor, be a parent and get your kid the help he is literally crying out for.

Don't go to the school at school up the school.

Your problems should not be our problems.

Where is the help? Seriously. Everyone keeps saying, get the kid help. The help is on a 6 month waiting list. The kid, most likely, did not show signs of needing to be admitted to a hospital for immediate treatment. Weekly therapy is $200 a week plus - for a middle class family, that is the difference between affording their mortgage or therapy. Therapy covered by insurance is near impossible to come by. The process is slow and finding a good therapist on the first go around, is also close to impossible.
I am not implying that we shouldn't try but if you have not been in the situation to try to get your child help in the last year, you should not be screaming that. There.is.not.help.

This is the absolute truth. It is a huge, huge problem.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are so stupid, being dumb. YES, someone being bullied matters it doesn’t excuse it but if you are such a dumb bunny that you don’t think you better figure out the explanation for some of these actions then we’re going to just keep saying it over and over again. You expect a kid that is not properly patented, neglected and then bullied at school is going to know to and how to get help?
You people are ridiculous!!!

The explanation is EASY ACCESS TO GUNS.

You’re welcome.

+1

What is behind all of the school shootings?

Guns
Guns
More guns

And 2A POSs who push their vile gun culture - and guns - on the rest of us.

They are whining about bullying because they know they are to blame.

You cannot walk and chew gum?
Yes
Gun!!
But also broken mental health system, culture of violence, abused and neglected kids, bullying, lack of resources.
We have a lot of problems that lead to this horror!

And the Republicans are not interested in solving any of them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
SO OVER people trying to use "bullying" - when that is exactly, exactly what they are doing. There is no excuse for shooting or injuring other students. Period. Stop deflecting, it is obvious. Handle your issues. Handle your anger issues.

Just ignore the "bully" posts. Off topic.

Bullying is something that people should be allowed to talk about
To me it sounds like he had an unhappy home and school kids sensed that and he ended up as an easy victim. None of this excuses anything, but it should be something that people can talk about without being accused

Sure. Talk about it at home, talk about it with a counselor, be a parent and get your kid the help he is literally crying out for.

Don't go to the school at school up the school.

Your problems should not be our problems.

Where is the help? Seriously. Everyone keeps saying, get the kid help. The help is on a 6 month waiting list. The kid, most likely, did not show signs of needing to be admitted to a hospital for immediate treatment. Weekly therapy is $200 a week plus - for a middle class family, that is the difference between affording their mortgage or therapy. Therapy covered by insurance is near impossible to come by. The process is slow and finding a good therapist on the first go around, is also close to impossible.
I am not implying that we shouldn't try but if you have not been in the situation to try to get your child help in the last year, you should not be screaming that. There.is.not.help.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are so stupid, being dumb. YES, someone being bullied matters it doesn’t excuse it but if you are such a dumb bunny that you don’t think you better figure out the explanation for some of these actions then we’re going to just keep saying it over and over again. You expect a kid that is not properly patented, neglected and then bullied at school is going to know to and how to get help?
You people are ridiculous!!!

The explanation is EASY ACCESS TO GUNS.

You’re welcome.

+1

What is behind all of the school shootings?

Guns
Guns
More guns

And 2A POSs who push their vile gun culture - and guns - on the rest of us.

They are whining about bullying because they know they are to blame.

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-tell-residents-911-response-times-may-be-delayed-due-to-staffing-shortage-critical-incidents

I will protect myself from rapists and home invasion robberies the way I choose. If you want to rely on 911, fine.

But don’t tell me to be defenseless and helpless against these men - these violent repeat offender men - who the prosecutors refuse to keep in jail.

How do you function in day-to-day life given your extreme state of fear and anxiety?

You need a therapist, not an arsenal.

+1

True that.

DP. Lol no. Try again. "Extreme state of fear an anxiety"? No really, lol.

Sure looks/sounds that way!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are so stupid, being dumb. YES, someone being bullied matters it doesn’t excuse it but if you are such a dumb bunny that you don’t think you better figure out the explanation for some of these actions then we’re going to just keep saying it over and over again. You expect a kid that is not properly patented, neglected and then bullied at school is going to know to and how to get help?
You people are ridiculous!!!

The explanation is EASY ACCESS TO GUNS.

You’re welcome.

+1

What is behind all of the school shootings?

Guns
Guns
More guns

And 2A POSs who push their vile gun culture - and guns - on the rest of us.

They are whining about bullying because they know they are to blame.

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-tell-residents-911-response-times-may-be-delayed-due-to-staffing-shortage-critical-incidents

I will protect myself from rapists and home invasion robberies the way I choose. If you want to rely on 911, fine.

But don’t tell me to be defenseless and helpless against these men - these violent repeat offender men - who the prosecutors refuse to keep in jail.

How do you function in day-to-day life given your extreme state of fear and anxiety?

You need a therapist, not an arsenal.

+1

True that.

DP. Lol no. Try again. "Extreme state of fear an anxiety"? No really, lol.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are so stupid, being dumb. YES, someone being bullied matters it doesn’t excuse it but if you are such a dumb bunny that you don’t think you better figure out the explanation for some of these actions then we’re going to just keep saying it over and over again. You expect a kid that is not properly patented, neglected and then bullied at school is going to know to and how to get help?
You people are ridiculous!!!

The explanation is EASY ACCESS TO GUNS.

You’re welcome.

+1

What is behind all of the school shootings?

Guns
Guns
More guns

And 2A POSs who push their vile gun culture - and guns - on the rest of us.

They are whining about bullying because they know they are to blame.

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-tell-residents-911-response-times-may-be-delayed-due-to-staffing-shortage-critical-incidents

I will protect myself from rapists and home invasion robberies the way I choose. If you want to rely on 911, fine.

But don’t tell me to be defenseless and helpless against these men - these violent repeat offender men - who the prosecutors refuse to keep in jail.

How do you function in day-to-day life given your extreme state of fear and anxiety?

You need a therapist, not an arsenal.

+1

True that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe schools should actually hire trained psychologists (and not just one to supervise a huge cluster of schools) rather than warm bodies with “social work” degrees or whatever it is they are hiring now.

I CANNOT believe that counselor didn’t take one look at that drawing and the internet search and go immediately to the principal/police. JFC - the kids practically sky wrote what he was about to do.

Ah yes, a psychology degree is the magical factor that was missing here after at least a dozen people were aware of this kid's problems and failed to stop him.

Exactly. More six-figure freeloaders with degree mill credentials were needed at the district and the county level. Not enough worthless bureaucracy and layers of fiefdoms in Michigan's wealthiest county.

Wow. That's what wealth look like in Michigan???

DP here. Doesn't matter. Happens in langley, too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are so stupid, being dumb. YES, someone being bullied matters it doesn’t excuse it but if you are such a dumb bunny that you don’t think you better figure out the explanation for some of these actions then we’re going to just keep saying it over and over again. You expect a kid that is not properly patented, neglected and then bullied at school is going to know to and how to get help?
You people are ridiculous!!!

The explanation is EASY ACCESS TO GUNS.

You’re welcome.

+1

What is behind all of the school shootings?

Guns
Guns
More guns

And 2A POSs who push their vile gun culture - and guns - on the rest of us.

They are whining about bullying because they know they are to blame.

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-tell-residents-911-response-times-may-be-delayed-due-to-staffing-shortage-critical-incidents

I will protect myself from rapists and home invasion robberies the way I choose. If you want to rely on 911, fine.

But don’t tell me to be defenseless and helpless against these men - these violent repeat offender men - who the prosecutors refuse to keep in jail.

How do you function in day-to-day life given your extreme state of fear and anxiety?

You need a therapist, not an arsenal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are so stupid, being dumb. YES, someone being bullied matters it doesn’t excuse it but if you are such a dumb bunny that you don’t think you better figure out the explanation for some of these actions then we’re going to just keep saying it over and over again. You expect a kid that is not properly patented, neglected and then bullied at school is going to know to and how to get help?
You people are ridiculous!!!

The explanation is EASY ACCESS TO GUNS.

You’re welcome.

+1

What is behind all of the school shootings?

Guns
Guns
More guns

And 2A POSs who push their vile gun culture - and guns - on the rest of us.

They are whining about bullying because they know they are to blame.

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-tell-residents-911-response-times-may-be-delayed-due-to-staffing-shortage-critical-incidents

I will protect myself from rapists and home invasion robberies the way I choose. If you want to rely on 911, fine.

But don’t tell me to be defenseless and helpless against these men - these violent repeat offender men - who the prosecutors refuse to keep in jail.

Store your weapon in a manner that your teenager can’t access it and that’s fine. Just like I do with mine.

+1

Same.