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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the Governor of Oklahoma who is VERY Trumpy. Can’t criticize Trump of course but says he’s getting bad advice (criticizing President Miller?)

It’s never Trump’s fault. Are they saying he isn’t capable of coming up with these ideas on his own or managing his team properly? Interesting.

Grandpa Trump doesn’t have a clue what is going on. It’s nothing but golf, Greenland, and ballrooms in his brain right now.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

Our government can choose to change how ICE proceeds, stop lying about their statistics, train them better, hold them accountable for poor behavior, and actually focus on criminals rather than just brown people.

Heck even the libertarian Cato Institute has pointed out that DHS lies about primarily targeting criminals and lies about their data!

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-prove-dhs-lied-about-cato-report-ice

Both killers were veteran ICE and DHS. We can't better train our way of of this. Ro Kanna had some good proposals. Eventually, both need to be shrunk wildly. Why the heck is DHS even operating in the US interior?

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the Governor of Oklahoma who is VERY Trumpy. Can’t criticize Trump of course but says he’s getting bad advice (criticizing President Miller?)

It’s never Trump’s fault. Are they saying he isn’t capable of coming up with these ideas on his own or managing his team properly? Interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the Governor of Oklahoma who is VERY Trumpy. Can’t criticize Trump of course but says he’s getting bad advice (criticizing President Miller?)

Stephen Miller is brilliant for having Noem being the face of his immigration operations I’ll give him that. If anybody ends up being held liable for this crazy stuff, his hands are completely off of it.

Anonymous wrote:https://thehill.com/homen...ation/amp/

Obamas call latest fatal Minnesota shooting a ‘wake-up call to every American, regardless of party’

Former President Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama on Sunday condemned the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota after the fatal shooting of protester Alex Pretti.

Authorities said Pretti was killed for approaching law enforcement with a handgun, but released video footage shows only a phone in the 37-year-old’s hand.

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the Governor of Oklahoma who is VERY Trumpy. Can’t criticize Trump of course but says he’s getting bad advice (criticizing President Miller?)

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the Governor of Oklahoma who is VERY Trumpy. Can’t criticize Trump of course but says he’s getting bad advice (criticizing President Miller?)

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the Governor of Oklahoma who is VERY Trumpy. Can’t criticize Trump of course but says he’s getting bad advice (criticizing President Miller?)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

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Wait. Noem thinks this is great coverage??

She was a beauty queen. Everything is about appearances with her. Look at her Mar a Lago face. Look at her costume changes and photo OPs. Look at the propaganda video that DHS made after the 3am Chicago raid.

She probably thought that flooding urban centers and scooping up lots of black and brown men would be good optics, but instead she got the murders of Good and Pretti.

She's too arrogant to resign or change course and far too stupid to know how.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah - this is what I said yesterday they were going to start saying:

Correct. The gun fires. You can clearly see the slide move and gray coat get startled.

This brings up a qhole other point most non gun owners don't even know about. Pretti had a round chambered (ready to fire, bypassing the need to rack a round it) In the gun world this is called carrying 'hot' and is extremely dangerous. Because Sigs often misfire. Like it did exactly here.

Most people who carry have a round chambered.