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Post 11/03/2025 15:34     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


DP.

You need to take your analysis one step further.

Why do companies refuse to pay a living wage? Because if they do, foreign or domestic competitors will undercut their prices and they’ll go out of business.

Most consumers are incredibly price-sensitive; all else being equal, not many will pay higher price to support higher wages.


If your business model depends on you exploiting your workers then its a bad model and you deserve to go out of business.

Also, many consumers are price conscious because we barely pay them enough to make ends meet. Pay them more and in turn they will more readily pay more for goods and services.

For decades we have artificially been keeping wages stagnant for decades, despite worker productivity and profitability steadily increasing.

We have a corporate greed problem.


It’s literally impossible to have a viable business model in most sectors today that does NOT rely on exploitation of workers.

Free trade + national/international markets + industrial agriculture + consumer price sensitivity = no survival for businesses that pay more in wages.

Does “corporate greed” play a part? Sure, but it’s far from the primary issue.


How do you explain the widening income gap? If not to corporate greed? —DP


Cheap labor supply from China and elsewhere replacing blue collar jobs. Automation replacing lower end white collar jobs. Plus massive wealth accumulation via real estate and investments for higher earners while lower earners can’t enter these markets. Meanwhile, national and international consolidation creating massive entities with bloated corporate pay.

Result—destruction of the middle, leaving very high-paying and very low-paying jobs.

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Post 11/03/2025 15:31     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:We also need to stop incentivizing people to have additional children they can’t afford. Every human interest story I read that is designed to tug at my heart strings just exasperates me more. All these unemployed/underemployed parents with too many mouths to feed! “How on earth am I supposed to feed my 9 children on my PT McDonalds salary??” The fact that these people agree to be interviewed proves they accept zero responsibility for their current plight.


SNAP is not an incentive. Try living off of it for a month. I dare you.

You talk like someone who hasn’t had a day of struggle in her life. When mommy and daddy die, and you don’t get a penny because it’s been seized by the state, you’ll see. This is all so predictable. We have very reasonable programs to provide the bare minimum to people who cannot do better for themselves. Take that away and watch what happens.


When there are many kids your snap/grocery budget can be around $1k per month. Enough to fully feed even a large family using economies of scale
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Post 11/03/2025 15:28     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Anonymous wrote:We also need to stop incentivizing people to have additional children they can’t afford. Every human interest story I read that is designed to tug at my heart strings just exasperates me more. All these unemployed/underemployed parents with too many mouths to feed! “How on earth am I supposed to feed my 9 children on my PT McDonalds salary??” The fact that these people agree to be interviewed proves they accept zero responsibility for their current plight.


The problem is that there is no way to disincentivize that is not cruel. Stop issuing monetary benefits for kids, feed the kids only, remove the kids from families - all of these are going to cause a shipstorm.
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Post 11/03/2025 15:10     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


This! I’ve been saying for years we need to tax companies who disproportionately have underemployed employees who use state and federal benefits.

Also, to the simp who said businesses will be undercut if they lower prices…industries can and have been filing antidumping suits against foreign companies.



Yes! And it should be calculated by percent of employees within specific pay-bands per location. Just to keep them honest.
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Post 11/03/2025 15:07     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


DP.

You need to take your analysis one step further.

Why do companies refuse to pay a living wage? Because if they do, foreign or domestic competitors will undercut their prices and they’ll go out of business.

Most consumers are incredibly price-sensitive; all else being equal, not many will pay higher price to support higher wages.


If your business model depends on you exploiting your workers then its a bad model and you deserve to go out of business.

Also, many consumers are price conscious because we barely pay them enough to make ends meet. Pay them more and in turn they will more readily pay more for goods and services.

For decades we have artificially been keeping wages stagnant for decades, despite worker productivity and profitability steadily increasing.

We have a corporate greed problem.


It’s literally impossible to have a viable business model in most sectors today that does NOT rely on exploitation of workers.

Free trade + national/international markets + industrial agriculture + consumer price sensitivity = no survival for businesses that pay more in wages.

Does “corporate greed” play a part? Sure, but it’s far from the primary issue.


How do you explain the widening income gap? If not to corporate greed? —DP
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Post 11/03/2025 15:06     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

Apologies for my atrocious grammar. ^^
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Post 11/03/2025 15:05     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


This! I’ve been saying for years we need to tax companies who disproportionately have underemployed employees who use state and federal benefits.

Also, to the simp who said businesses will be undercut if they lower prices…industries can and have been filing antidumping suits against foreign companies.

Anonymous
Post 11/03/2025 14:55     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


DP.

You need to take your analysis one step further.

Why do companies refuse to pay a living wage? Because if they do, foreign or domestic competitors will undercut their prices and they’ll go out of business.

Most consumers are incredibly price-sensitive; all else being equal, not many will pay higher price to support higher wages.


More prison labor coming to a town near you . “Would you like fries with that shake?”
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Post 11/03/2025 14:30     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


DP.

You need to take your analysis one step further.

Why do companies refuse to pay a living wage? Because if they do, foreign or domestic competitors will undercut their prices and they’ll go out of business.

Most consumers are incredibly price-sensitive; all else being equal, not many will pay higher price to support higher wages.


If your business model depends on you exploiting your workers then its a bad model and you deserve to go out of business.

Also, many consumers are price conscious because we barely pay them enough to make ends meet. Pay them more and in turn they will more readily pay more for goods and services.

For decades we have artificially been keeping wages stagnant for decades, despite worker productivity and profitability steadily increasing.

We have a corporate greed problem.


It’s literally impossible to have a viable business model in most sectors today that does NOT rely on exploitation of workers.

Free trade + national/international markets + industrial agriculture + consumer price sensitivity = no survival for businesses that pay more in wages.

Does “corporate greed” play a part? Sure, but it’s far from the primary issue.
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Post 11/03/2025 14:29     Subject: Re:So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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So you are angry because the USDA sent a nice reminder about the laws established by our democratically elected legislature?

What would you prefer, federal law enforcement raiding grocery stores and arresting cashiers for breaking the law?

Call your senators and ask them to vote yes on the continuing resolution, and this will be fixed. It’s becoming very clear that the democrats only care about their wealthy voter base and could care less about normal people.


Private business. If I run a donut shop and want to give the homeless guy on the corner a cup of coffee and free donut every morning, it’s my right to do so as I damn well please.


There is a law on the books that prohibits pricing food based on whether a customer is paying with EBT or not. You can disagree with that law, but the answer to that is to go in, vote to reopen the government, and then introduce a bill to change that law. Private businesses still have to operate under the law.

The USDA sending a helpful reminder before enforcing this law is the correct thing to do.


Can we release the Epstein files first? Asking for the country.
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Post 11/03/2025 14:08     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


DP.

You need to take your analysis one step further.

Why do companies refuse to pay a living wage? Because if they do, foreign or domestic competitors will undercut their prices and they’ll go out of business.

Most consumers are incredibly price-sensitive; all else being equal, not many will pay higher price to support higher wages.


More prison labor coming to a town near you . “Would you like fries with that shake?”


Everyone who shops at Walmart, Temu, Amazon, eats fast-casual, etc. is part of the problem.

Interesting choice: pay higher wages but increase unemployment and cost of goods? Or pay lower wages with lower unemployment and cheaper goods?

Florida will be an interesting bellwether for this: min wage was raised to $15 via referendum.


Gee we were told raising the minimum wage was communist.


It’s only communism when Dems do it.
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Post 11/03/2025 14:02     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


DP.

You need to take your analysis one step further.

Why do companies refuse to pay a living wage? Because if they do, foreign or domestic competitors will undercut their prices and they’ll go out of business.

Most consumers are incredibly price-sensitive; all else being equal, not many will pay higher price to support higher wages.


More prison labor coming to a town near you . “Would you like fries with that shake?”


Everyone who shops at Walmart, Temu, Amazon, eats fast-casual, etc. is part of the problem.

Interesting choice: pay higher wages but increase unemployment and cost of goods? Or pay lower wages with lower unemployment and cheaper goods?

Florida will be an interesting bellwether for this: min wage was raised to $15 via referendum.


Gee we were told raising the minimum wage was communist.
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Post 11/03/2025 14:00     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


DP.

You need to take your analysis one step further.

Why do companies refuse to pay a living wage? Because if they do, foreign or domestic competitors will undercut their prices and they’ll go out of business.

Most consumers are incredibly price-sensitive; all else being equal, not many will pay higher price to support higher wages.


If your business model depends on you exploiting your workers then its a bad model and you deserve to go out of business.

Also, many consumers are price conscious because we barely pay them enough to make ends meet. Pay them more and in turn they will more readily pay more for goods and services.

For decades we have artificially been keeping wages stagnant for decades, despite worker productivity and profitability steadily increasing.

We have a corporate greed problem.
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Post 11/03/2025 13:58     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


DP.

You need to take your analysis one step further.

Why do companies refuse to pay a living wage? Because if they do, foreign or domestic competitors will undercut their prices and they’ll go out of business.

Most consumers are incredibly price-sensitive; all else being equal, not many will pay higher price to support higher wages.


More prison labor coming to a town near you . “Would you like fries with that shake?”


Everyone who shops at Walmart, Temu, Amazon, eats fast-casual, etc. is part of the problem.

Interesting choice: pay higher wages but increase unemployment and cost of goods? Or pay lower wages with lower unemployment and cheaper goods?

Florida will be an interesting bellwether for this: min wage was raised to $15 via referendum.
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Post 11/03/2025 13:53     Subject: So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love is how the Republicans proclaim to be Christian but cut food aid to the poor. Is that what Jesus would do?


Jesus would teach a person who is able to support themselves not to be on welfare their whole lives, unlike the intergenerational welfare we have now.

You are not "owed".


I believe his primary commandment was to love.


Not making people who are perfectly capable of independence, dependent on others is love. Tough love, but love nonetheless.


It's a safety net. Most people are on it temporarily. This idea that the program is full of people who do not need it is not based in reality. Making people in need out to be lazy moochers isn't love, tough or otherwise.


Not really. Many, many are on it for years. They are a lot of exemptions that pretty much make it possible for anyone to be on it for years. If you have children under 14 (and keep having children) or take care of anyone, you could be on it for years. You can get waivers if you meet the 20 hr per week work requirement and stay on it for years as well.


Call your senators. Tell them to nuke the filibuster and then make the laws even stricter. No more soda or candy or junk. No more waivers. Stricter work requirements for people with kids. It can be done with 51 votes.


You don’t even have to actually work 20 hrs. It’s 20 hrs OR the hours equivalent to total the monetary amount of 20 hrs at minimum wage. But even then, there are a lot of waivers people can get to not have any work requirement at all. It isn’t difficult at all to get these waivers.


Most people on food stamps actually work. Those who don't usually have disabled kids, are disabled themselves or are veterans. The question we should be asking is why minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.


Because democrats allowed a huge surplus of low wage workers to happen

Stop the overwhelming immigration and wages will rise

But the elites want more low wage workers to reduce wages to stop inflation


There was a study that found over 13% of Walmart employees in Ohio were on food stamps. In addition to Walmart, there are also other big employers like fast food chains, Dollar Tree and others that pay a lot of their employees minimum wage and that has absolutely nothing to do with "flooded with illegals" - it has everything to do with corporate greed, bad business models that depend on exploiting workers and so on.

If we got rid of every illegal alien there would still be companies refusing to pay a living wage.


DP.

You need to take your analysis one step further.

Why do companies refuse to pay a living wage? Because if they do, foreign or domestic competitors will undercut their prices and they’ll go out of business.

Most consumers are incredibly price-sensitive; all else being equal, not many will pay higher price to support higher wages.


More prison labor coming to a town near you . “Would you like fries with that shake?”