The good thing to come out of all of this is that Vought is likely out. He embarrassed the hell out of Trump with this poorly thought out and written memo that caught the White House off guard. I think he inflicted more trauma on himself than what he wanted to inflict on liberals. Oh well, bye bye. Karma isn’t fun.

Anonymous wrote:Fed here- replying on my lunch break. I don't understand the zero flexibility with the RTO other than to make us miserable. Prior to the pandemic I was remote teleworking at least 3 days a week, sometimes more. Going back stinks, since I'll be less productive adding in commute time and socializing with others. I'm usually in back-to-back meetings all day, in-office work will not increase my productivity, only lessen it.

The goal is to get people to quit.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the most disappointing thing about this is seeing long time civil servants promoted into leadership just go along with this farce. Going back into the office more consistently is a good goal, I want my team back more than they are in, but mandatory 5 days in with strict 8 hour tours is stupid.

+1.

Where does it say mandatory eight hour tour? Does that mean no more maxiflex or aws? What about credit hours?

Most of us never had credit hours or maxiflex. Those were agency specific.

I personally hope we can still choose our own hours.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the most disappointing thing about this is seeing long time civil servants promoted into leadership just go along with this farce. Going back into the office more consistently is a good goal, I want my team back more than they are in, but mandatory 5 days in with strict 8 hour tours is stupid.

+1.

Where does it say mandatory eight hour tour? Does that mean no more maxiflex or aws? What about credit hours?

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Anonymous wrote:It is a long shot but does anyone have any suggestions on federal office space in/near Orlando that might have space for a remote worker? The OPM memo said remote workers could sit in other federal buildings. Figured it can't hurt to ask.

I mean, I don’t think it works like that. You can’t just work in any federal building.

Right?! You’d need your agency to write an RSA and pay the other agency to use their space.

I think it will be very rare and mostly within Departments and not between different Departments.

Just received our guidance. Small independent agency. RTO on April 7, including remote workers. They provided a form where you indicate what your plan is that you have the fill by next week. In the scheme of things, two months notice isn’t too crazy, compared to what some other agencies are doing? Trying to find a glimmer of positivity…

Anonymous wrote:It is a long shot but does anyone have any suggestions on federal office space in/near Orlando that might have space for a remote worker? The OPM memo said remote workers could sit in other federal buildings. Figured it can't hurt to ask.

Agencies are supposed to respond to a government-wide data call on where they have available space, but every agency I deal with doesn't have enough space for their own people. It's not going to work.

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Anonymous wrote:It is a long shot but does anyone have any suggestions on federal office space in/near Orlando that might have space for a remote worker? The OPM memo said remote workers could sit in other federal buildings. Figured it can't hurt to ask.

There's just no way they're actually doing that. It would be an access/security nightmare.

it would be kind of funny if PP just showed up at the federal courthouse in Orlando every day and asked to come in to work there. It’s creative!

Anonymous wrote:It is a long shot but does anyone have any suggestions on federal office space in/near Orlando that might have space for a remote worker? The OPM memo said remote workers could sit in other federal buildings. Figured it can't hurt to ask.

I mean, I don’t think it works like that. You can’t just work in any federal building.

Anonymous wrote:It is a long shot but does anyone have any suggestions on federal office space in/near Orlando that might have space for a remote worker? The OPM memo said remote workers could sit in other federal buildings. Figured it can't hurt to ask.

There's just no way they're actually doing that. It would be an access/security nightmare.

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lmfao

most jobs ask you to do this, its not out of the ordinary
state and loval govt do

Um no. You have the right to have a second job as a federal employee unless prohibited by a law or regulation that applies to your
agency, or it might present a conflict of interest or raise a question of impartiality in the performance of your duties. This is straight from OGE website. And enshrined in the federal ethics regulations.

you have to get it cleared by your ethics officer and you can’t have two FT jobs at the same time.

It is a long shot but does anyone have any suggestions on federal office space in/near Orlando that might have space for a remote worker? The OPM memo said remote workers could sit in other federal buildings. Figured it can't hurt to ask.

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lmfao

most jobs ask you to do this, its not out of the ordinary
state and loval govt do

Right. I'm already not allowed to have another job. And if I had one, there would be tax records.

+1

I’m an attorney so all sorts of conflict of interest issues too on outside employment. And they can look at our taxable income to figure out if someone has a sizable second income.

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lmfao

most jobs ask you to do this, its not out of the ordinary
state and loval govt do

So does my agency. You have to get ethics clearance for any outside work, even driving an Uber. Backup of people trying to get a sign off to gig work or substitute teach every time we have a shutdown threat. (I think if done outside business hours or during a shutdown, it would be approved unless there was a perceived conflict).

I don’t know anyone with a side hustle in my agency— but I’m white collar and 50. Lower GS and Gen Z may do some outside work.

I am a fed and live in a neighborhood with a lot of feds. I am sure there are lots of people who think I’m lazy because I pick up my kids every day. I am an official part time employee and take a big pay cut to be able to do that. I’ve had this arrangement for years and it works very well. I have a neighbor who works 3 days a week. Again that’s all she’s paid for. If you see her out running at 10 on one of her non work days she’s doing nothing wrong. I have a co worker whose officially does her work on 9 days a pay period and takes one off. She and I both work nights and when we are supposed to be off if we need to. The point is you don’t know the story behind everyone’s life. Stop pretending that seeing one person out means every fed is a liar and a cheat.